Nintendo Switch Dev Kit Stats Leaked? Cortex A57, 4GB RAM, 32GB Storage, Multi-Touch.
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royox
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But if it was real? To have at least a reference for future real leaks.
It's not real. The source has never been a reliable source for any leaks, especially on the NX.
But Nintendo have been saying all along that they were not competing on power with the other machines, why would it only be these leaks(even if they were real) that dashed your hopes?
Yeah, it was so weird the timing of this "leak" shortly after the Switch reveal, that same "source" claimed that Nvidia was never in dev kits and that all people claiming Nvidia was being used for NX were apparently uninformed.
If it were real it'd be still below XBO but well beyond WiiU. Much closer to XBO.
So, if leaks are real Switch will have a custom Tegra chip which will likely be about as fast as the Tegra X1, so i think this video is pretty interesting, it compares that Tegra with a PS4 in the Unreal Engine 4 benchmark
PS:Note that the PS4 version looks sharper cause it's a direct video, while the Tegra X1 was captured by a cam during Nvidia press conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XzIZWO1qdg
PS:Note that the PS4 version looks sharper cause it's a direct video, while the Tegra X1 was captured by a cam during Nvidia press conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XzIZWO1qdg
Jose92
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I do not comprehend how people are asking for near ps4 performance on a tablet, or even near xbox one performance.
A full precision 1 TF gpu in a handheld running in full power is a dream for now. The 960m is a ~ 1.4 TF gpu which has a tdp of 75 w, this is impossible to cool in a 7 inch device. and what about the battery life a laptop with medium sized battery equipped with the 960m while running a game without being plugged and on high performance would last around an hour of operation even less. imagine on a tablet with quarter the size of the laptops battery.
Even the tegra X1 everyone is spouting to be a revelation in the mobile space is a 0.5 Tf full precision or a 1Tf half precision gpu. So it is slightly better than the wii-u gpu.
The current cooling and battery technologies makes this an impossible dream Until gpu's reach the 7nm procces where power consumption should drop by around 60% compared to current 16nm technology.
A full precision 1 TF gpu in a handheld running in full power is a dream for now. The 960m is a ~ 1.4 TF gpu which has a tdp of 75 w, this is impossible to cool in a 7 inch device. and what about the battery life a laptop with medium sized battery equipped with the 960m while running a game without being plugged and on high performance would last around an hour of operation even less. imagine on a tablet with quarter the size of the laptops battery.
Even the tegra X1 everyone is spouting to be a revelation in the mobile space is a 0.5 Tf full precision or a 1Tf half precision gpu. So it is slightly better than the wii-u gpu.
The current cooling and battery technologies makes this an impossible dream Until gpu's reach the 7nm procces where power consumption should drop by around 60% compared to current 16nm technology.
Fudgepuppy
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What if the game-cards are RW, meaning that you can save the save-files, patches and DLC right onto the cart?
It's the fastest, but RAM wise my phone doubles/triples what the iPhone has (not that it really matters since ios optimization is incredible). I have a OnePlus 3 btw, which is about the fastest android on the market right now.
tkscz
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We don't know just like the tweet doesn't know what CPU it's using. The only thing we know is it's a custom Tegra GPU based on Nvidia's "top performing GeForce graphic cards" (the top being pascal right now) and that's it. Amount of RAM and type of RAM is unknown as it's a custom Tegra. The CPU is unknown.
I'm surprised this thread is still here. We know for a fact now that her sources (if she even has any) don't know what they are talking about:
and that the specs she gave are the basic specs for any Tegra X1 device. Considering the Switch might not be running on X1, these specs are bull.
Which, real or not, is impressive for a handheld. I don't understand folks who want it to be the same as the PS4 or Xbox One. If that were the case you would be paying like $400-$500 for it and the battery life would be terrible.
What if MS and Sony discovered that Nintendo is making a portable device that can run games with the quality of their home consoles on the go? Worst, it can play these games on TV too.
We are in the middle of the generation, they can launch a Xbox two or ps5 right now. What to do?
The PS4 almost had 4gb.
My bet is 6 gb, one for os. Which puts it on par with PS4 which has 8gb, 3 for os.
In 2013.
Forgive me, but I don't really understand your hypothetical. Like yeah it would be cool but that doesn't change the fact that the price would still be high. Sony and Microsoft are selling their consoles at 299 right now so imagine how much it would be for newer tech that has to come with an amazing battery and a screen that's probably touch. Nintendo will not sell at a loss.
In a home console.
Yeah, people simply don't understand very well what they're talking about, and the funniest thing is that they're already complaining about the supposed (devkits) battery life. Would be amazing to see how much would the battery last if the Switch actually had a more powerful GPU than PS4 (assuming this is even possible... but it isn't) and a 1080p screen.
Anyway RAM and CPU power should be even higher than 3x Wii U. Available RAM for games in particular could be on par with the current gen consoles, or very close to that (which would be 4-5x what the Wii U has, possibly with a higher bandwidth), and we still have that rumor from lcgeek about the CPU being even more powerful than what Xbox One and PS4 have. All in all, considering the form factor, i'd say this console could end up being a pretty impressive engineering accomplishment from Nvidia and Nintendo. Let's hope that those rumors were true.
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wonderful103
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Well, the home SKU would fare even worse. A 4GB dev kit would probably translate to a 3GB consumer equivalent.
About 1/4 of 2 PS4s.
Its worth remembering that the ps4 only has 5GB of ram for games.
If the 4GB of ram is true it could be the amount available for games and not total system amount. that would only make it 1GB less than ps4 but the switch is only running at 720p (we don't know what resolution it will be when attached to a tv).
If the 4GB of ram is true it could be the amount available for games and not total system amount. that would only make it 1GB less than ps4 but the switch is only running at 720p (we don't know what resolution it will be when attached to a tv).
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1218933
With a good bargain and cutting almost all hardware profit, Nintendo can have a custom Parker machine capable of running current gen games at 720p and At a good price too.
Have you missed that it sits in a dock which increases performance? Nobody believes it will have 1Tflop 32fp GPU in mobile mode (though technically with the newest mobile hardware it may be possible). But 1tflop in docked mode is more than possible.
Development kits don't work like that anymore (having to have more physical RAM than the retail unit).
Most people forget that a good chunk of A72 improved performance comes from the newer fab yield process, A57 cores are not bad at all.
So people should be more worried whether the SoC is 16mm Finfet or not than the core IP itself.
Eolz
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I missed the confirmation about the dock increasing performance more than the typical mobile comparison.
Ah, right.
TLZ
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Because these folks don't want it a handheld and want it a true home console.
It may be physically possible, but don't count on that. I'd be very happy with 768gflops in docked mode (3 SM*1GHZ).
How did this person respond to the actual unveil and confirmation that it's powered by Tegra?
The most that dock should do is improve performance so that the console can run at a higher resolution and a stable framerate on the TV. Anything more than that will segment the audience which sort defeats the purpose of the Switch's main feature.
Pascal has been on the (auto) market since January. The rumours had the production for Switch started with trials somewhere in September. There is plenty of time for Pascal.
Schnozberry
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They would have needed a finalized hardware spec and a performance target, but that doesn't mean that they would have had actual samples of the finalized hardware until recently. Nvidia has had a tough time meeting demand for Pascal chips, even though they've been in production for almost a year now.
ZombiePlatypus
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This ain't Vita.
tkscz
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With the tweet this thread is based on.
* 1Tflop 32fp is a pipe dream, 1Tflop fp16 (if docked mode is a thing) could be possible, but the fp16 mantra is getting so out of hand, some engines using fp16 for some things may give some increase over standard performance, but it wont be double and I highly doubt its even 50% (but don't quote me on that, someone with good knowledge could throw better estimates)
* Docked mode is still a rumour, and people keep quoting that as a fact, while it seems so logical people should treat it at what it is at the moment, a rumour / educated guess.
DragonSworne
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We have no clue what the performance of the Switch is like in mobile mode. If games run subpar for only 3 hours then it is most definitely not a mobile device. It's a console with underpowered parts with mobility has a secondary feature.
How can you say it's underpowered if it's one of the highest end portable devices out there?
ZombiePlatypus
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How long of a battery life do people reasonably expect and want for this device to have? I guess I'm in the minority here, but unless I take it on a camping trip or something, I can't think of a situation where I'll be gaming continuously for more than 3 hours in mobile mode without access to a wall outlet or power source.
I guess roadtrips? Even then though, motion sickness would probably kick in, before I run outta juice.
Principate
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That's how almost every mobile device on the market would operate when playing such performance intensive games as that is the sad nature of current battery tech.
To be fair they did show flights in the ad. You don't have to go that far to exceed 3 hours.
ZombiePlatypus
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It's been a while since I've been on a plane. Do seats not come with power outlets for passengers?
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