That would be a huge win for Nintendo, but I haven't heard anything from Activision people about what their level of support for the Switch is going to be. Bringing a game like Destiny 2 is a big commitment with all the DLC and patches that come along with it
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That would be a huge win for Nintendo, but I haven't heard anything from Activision people about what their level of support for the Switch is going to be. Bringing a game like Destiny 2 is a big commitment with all the DLC and patches that come along with it
Well they just brought vicarious visions onboard to help work on Destiny and VV is a developer that has a history of working on mobile and working with Nintendo. Otherwise it's unclear how they can help with Destiny 2. That's where all the fan speculation comes from. I guess it would also depend on the early sales numbers for switch.
I'd be all for it. It is probably the only way I could see myself hopping back into the grind would be if it was released for the Switch
Zeyphersan
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It better, I plan on dropping a 256GB bad boy in there one day
Skittzo0413
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When you say X1 here, do you mean Xbox One or Tegra X1? I would imagine using Tegra X1 as the base comparison point would make the most sense here, given we know it's a Tegra line product, rather than GTX. I'd be a bit surprised if it gets to GTX950m if that's what you're predicting (unless you meant cut down version of 950m) and I think we've set fairly realistic expectations here for GPU power (~500-750 max, docked), do you think it could be likely to surpass that?
After what you've said over the past couple pages though I'm very excited to hear about the dev tools once the console releases. I'm betting properly optimized titles will be very impressive now.
mugurumakensei
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He means Xbox One. He's saying he doesn't like comparing to Xbox one as its not apples to apples.
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Ah gotcha, I was just a bit confused seeing the Switch SoC compared to PC chips rather than Tegra which we're used to seeing.
I'd say it's more likely for a mid gen upgrade to coincide with a new Switch tablet but that's just a guess. I don't see why they wouldn't use it at some point though, assuming the technology actually works decently.
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It's... all I've got.
That would be a bigger win for Nintendo than GTA/RDR2, imo. Destiny on the go would be a massive success, and I would think that Bungie has learned it's lesson and made a more wieldy engine this time around that could easily support a Switch release. Lord knows if the 360/PS3 could play Destiny 1, then the Switch should absolutely be able to handle Destiny 2. My only concern is that the always-online needs of Destiny or some business BS from Activision will keep the game away from the Switch.
It's... all I've got.
That would be a bigger win for Nintendo than GTA/RDR2, imo. Destiny on the go would be a massive success, and I would think that Bungie has learned it's lesson and made a more wieldy engine this time around that could easily support a Switch release. Lord knows if the 360/PS3 could play Destiny 1, then the Switch should absolutely be able to handle Destiny 2. My only concern is that the always-online needs of Destiny or some business BS from Activision will keep the game away from the Switch.
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If any of it is true, it's all bad...
I only mean cut down not full, very few other chips can really get where they are trying to go. I don't know the exact chip, but as things come about this GPU could punch 3-6x above the WiiU GPU. 5-6x is me adjusting for potential customization and improvements.
Skittzo0413 thanks for the clarification.
Skittzo0413
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Thank you for clarifying too, and I certainly understand these are predictions or expectations, not leaks or rumors. But thanks as always for sharing your thoughts!
Another? The 3DS uses SD, and the New 3DS uses MicroSD. Who uses proprietary memory other than Sony?
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Thanks for your replies. Going by what we have been hearing, 3x the Wii U when docked is my minimum expectation for the Switch. I am also expecting titles that takes advantage of its feature set (2x fp16, possibly stronger CPU) to potentially nearly double that performance. That is still slightly below XB1 in power, which is above 7x the Wii U, but that would be great for a hybrid HH/console.
I'd say 3x is pretty unlikely as a stock Tegra X1 is roughly 3x a WiiU. Even with no customization if it's a Tegra P1 it should be 5x a WiiU, up to 10x if FP16 can be used heavily (not sure what impact the lower precision would have on graphics in their games).
It's a modest estimate at best. As things pan out I might up it slightly. 10x in raw specs is a bit unbelievable to me.
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Considering the Wii U's GPU is 180GFLOPS, 6x would it put right above 1 TFLOP. I'm guessing the 5-6x isn't accounting for architectural advantages of nvidia over AMD not seen on paper...
Any info on final RAM also?
10x wouldn't be in raw specs, it would be only for code that can run in FP16. Raw specs I'm thinking 700-800GFLOPS when docked should be reasonable. My main concern is memory speed, given that mobile SoCs are usually 20-50 GBps...
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I'm also very interested to hear about any information regarding the RAM.
Spyder_Monkey
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So are the specs fake or what?
ShadowFox08
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Also, anyone know how much better was the Wii U's GPU over the 360? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard 360's GFLOPs is 230, while Wii U's 180 TFLOPS. Though Wii U's GPU is more modern and I've pretty much always heard its better than 360 and PS3(newer more efficient hardware).
You mean 4 months, right? Nintendo never gives out specs, I'm not expecting specs in January. Just pricing, launch titles, release date and some demos.
The specs in the OP are probably real in the fact that they are an off the shelf devkit you can buy from retailers. It is likely at some point in development something like it would have been used as a devkit.
Honestly the idea that there are multiple fans to the Switch is what is curious to me. A relatively tiny single fan is all it takes to keep a full powered Tegra x1 cool. So the dock having additional cooling certainly seems to indicate a power greater than a Tegra X1.
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We'll probably get at least some specs, like amount of RAM and internal memory.
I think you pretty much covered it, I don't think any meaningful measurement can be provided. The difference is pretty minimal. If the GPU hadn't been downclocked, and if it had a been paired with a better CPU the difference could have been much more substantial.
Zeyphersan
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From Nintendo? We absolutely will not
Internal memory I could see. As far as I know Nintendo never officially provided RAM specs for WiiU or 3DS, though maybe the developer NDAs will expire so we'll get info from them.
With the amount of involvement NVidia has had, and given the change in company leadership, it's not out of the question.
These is also cutting edge mobile hardware as well, so they might be more inclined to show off.
What do you mean by RAM specs? Like speed and specifics? Nintendo was very open about having 1GB of RAM for games and 1GB of RAM for OS/Miiverse when it came to Wii U.
Who revealed the Wii U RAM specs before release? I remember at least a few articles about it.
Nintendo hasn't put out specs since the gamecube days, when they made consoles that were roughly on par with their competition. You'll get specs from unofficial sources and leaks from developers like always.
What Nintendo does is anyone's guess at this point with Iwata gone.. Kimishima has multiple times said specs will be talked about next year. Could be relatively detailed or it could be like the Wii U spec page that was pretty much a joke.
You think this will be over?
Just wait till after Switch releases, some random YouTuber is going to make up a rumour that there'll be an SCD or a console version of the Switch called the Switch Pro which will be more powerful than Scorpio and then everyone is going to go gaga over it because you'll have guys with inferiority complexes that can't brag about the Switch's graphics in comparison to PS4.
Spyder_Monkey
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The fact that they're working so closely with Nvidia means we're getting something more powerful than the X1.
Nintendo provided the RAM amount.
ShadowFox08
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4 years was such a long time.. I think Nintendo did confirm the RAM before Wii U was released.
Digging up threads on gamefaqs, and it seems like the RAM for Wii U was confirmed around September 2012, which was 2 months before Wii U came out.
Before the Wii U was released, Emily Rogers notedfrom her sources that the Wii U would only have 1 to 1.5GB of RAM 4 years ago around August 2012.
However a french developer on neogaf, claimed the Wii U will have 2GB of RAM, around march 2012.
With the presentation only a month away now, and the switch releasing merely two months after, I feel pretty confident that the basic specs like storage and RAM will be revealed. If it was anything like Wii U, We should be getting some additional leaks from devs from insiders about the power. I'm sure of it.
Digging up threads on gamefaqs, and it seems like the RAM for Wii U was confirmed around September 2012, which was 2 months before Wii U came out.
Before the Wii U was released, Emily Rogers notedfrom her sources that the Wii U would only have 1 to 1.5GB of RAM 4 years ago around August 2012.
However a french developer on neogaf, claimed the Wii U will have 2GB of RAM, around march 2012.
With the presentation only a month away now, and the switch releasing merely two months after, I feel pretty confident that the basic specs like storage and RAM will be revealed. If it was anything like Wii U, We should be getting some additional leaks from devs from insiders about the power. I'm sure of it.
Iwata confirmed 2GB of RAM during the Japanese Wii U September Pre-Launch Presentation video.
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