No Man's Sky: Foundation Update (v1.1)
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D1renegade
Member
So they still haven't acknowledged the lies? Lol
The lies will be patched out later.
Conkerkid11
Member
Dunno about console, but PC version at launch wasn't running the game at 1080p no matter what setting you chose, so it was a blurry mess.
But they're the victims here.
EventHorizon
Member
A hand brake is a very minor improvement and isn't going to suddenly make flying fun. As for survival mode, notice that they don't describe it. It is probably just upping damage numbers.
The problem is where their focus is. Notice the difference in the amount of information given about the base building verses flying and survival mode. That's the same type of thing that set off my red flags about NMS before release. Then it was the fact that Hello Games would go into great detail about their procedural generation, but then suspiciously claimed they couldn't talk about other parts of the game because they did not want to spoil them. As it turned out, the other parts of the game sucked which was the far more likely reason why they weren't mentioned in detail.
The general problem with NMS Is that it's focus is too much on the world building and not enough on what you do in the world. Base building is a continuation of this. It looks like it would be something fun to do for a hour. Other than just to see it, there appears to be little reason to do it. It doesn't appear to be connected to the stated goal of getting to the center of the galaxy at all.
I thought the goal was to get to the center of the universe. No wonder people got so pissed! They were playing the game wrong!
What an awkwardly worded sentence. And there's no limit to the amount of unoriginal parroting in a thread as far as I know.
Exploratory
Banned
I'm sorry but I think that's bullshit. I've worked in a high pressure work environment as well but no one was compelled to lie about projects.
This wording is what I'm talking about you're not addressing the direct situation and for lack of a better term sugar coating it.
No PR person told Sean Murray to specifically go on late night talk shows and tell lies I don't believe that at all.
I have a lot more empathy for the small developer who puts their "blood and tears" into a game and doesn't lie consistently to produce thousands of sales.
I'm not going to argue the point with people who clearly just want to enjoy the game. But I will say just own what that you're okay with Hello Games' transgressions as long as they make and continue to support a game you enjoy playing. Don't patronize people, dismiss obvious factual criticism, or try to turn Hello Games and Sean Murray into a victim. That is not okay.
ClosingADoor
Member
Good update, hope they continue it. Just wondering why they couldn't communicate this stuff earlier. Lay out a roadmap for updates that you know are going to happen, then surprise people if you can do more.
Jacksinthe
Banned
That's a great update but the inflated sense if self-importance shines through yet again in that tweet.
Never miss a chance to show how small their studio is, what they've gone through to make the game, etc. Enough with that shit already.
Still hasn't come clean on all the bullshit. Still playing the victim card.
Again, the update sounds cool but it also sounds like something better suited as an addition to ALL THE OTHER SHIT THEY TALKED ABOUT.
Sheesh.
Never miss a chance to show how small their studio is, what they've gone through to make the game, etc. Enough with that shit already.
Still hasn't come clean on all the bullshit. Still playing the victim card.
Again, the update sounds cool but it also sounds like something better suited as an addition to ALL THE OTHER SHIT THEY TALKED ABOUT.
Sheesh.
KCroxtonJr
Member
Yup. Especially with how unforgiving survival mode is, we need to be able to move around better than we currently can.
valkillmore
Member
Yeah, OK. I get where you're coming from. I'm coming from a different place. Cheers.
Boy are you in for a surprise.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Base-building looks more robust than I thought, so I was wrong with my prediction on that front.
I still think they're missing some of the key things that makes those kind of activities fun in other games, but we'll see.
I still think they're missing some of the key things that makes those kind of activities fun in other games, but we'll see.
Good idea actually.
Hahahahahahahahhahahahaahhahahahahahaha.
Conkerkid11
Member
Damn, if only I'd known that all the items I'd been gathering which ended up being used to increase my inventory space were actually supposed to get me to a place that doesn't reward you for getting there.
How you read that tweet is likely dependent on how you view HG; I don't get an victimization. . .at all. Simply that the last few months have been rough (it has) and that this patch means quite a bit to them (it probably does).
You start over and do it again. And? That doesn't negate getting to the center being the goal. In You Must Be A Boat your reward is starting over and. . .building another boat. Didn't stop the game from being well received.
valkillmore
Member
Bought it last night on gog.
Looking forward to just relaxing and traveling.
I will definitely rebuy, but on PC this time, not PS4. Really excited to get back into it tbh, but not for another few weeks at least.
TheVoidDragon
Member
There's a lot of interesting stuff there, but at the same time, it feels like they're just entirely avoiding the problems people had with the game in the first place. Other than the inventory stacking, this doesn't seem to address any of the complaints about repetitive exploration, a lack of NPC interaction, not much variety in things to find, things like not being able to fly below a certain height etc or any of the missing features.
It even feels like this is entirely just going around what the game was meant to be. It's like with this update it's gone from an exploration game where the goal was to explore and get to the centre of the universe, to a typical survival game.
It even feels like this is entirely just going around what the game was meant to be. It's like with this update it's gone from an exploration game where the goal was to explore and get to the centre of the universe, to a typical survival game.
I payed 60 so I am going to have x3 the amount of fun!
fierrotlepou
Member
I do think they need to acknowledge stuff like this
before real healing can begin. I hope the update is great for ya'll that are playing it, though.
Wow.
Yup; sorry you were confused about the game. Maybe try a wiki next time?
Interfectum
Member
If they keep updating the game like this I'll def jump in at some point. Good showing HG.
You could already take HUD-less screen by pressing Options and Share at roughly the same time. The interface disappears for a split second.
You need to time it correctly, but after a while you get the hang of it!
fantastic you mean
I agree land buggies would be awesome - I immediately wanted one after seeing The Martian
Boy Wander
Member
For sure they messed up big-time with overselling the features of the game. I still think some of the criticism has been ridiculous though. I mean, it's a video game for fucks sake. Don't buy their next game and move on.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Exactly. Slightly bemused by the "redeemed themselves" posts to be honest.
Massive update. Glad to see some QoL additions and expansion into economic trading, base building and freighters. Wonder how much it'll cost to snag one of these freighters. Max sized ships got real expensive real quick.
Will boot up when I get home this evening to see the changes, but again won't really have time to dig in until next year. Looking forward to whatever they add on top of this.
Will boot up when I get home this evening to see the changes, but again won't really have time to dig in until next year. Looking forward to whatever they add on top of this.
valkillmore
Member
Can you elaborate on how it's different from the previous core experience?
I do think they need to acknowledge stuff like this
before real healing can begin. I hope the update is great for ya'll that are playing it, though.
That video came out in December of 2014. Features got cut. Happens in games all the time.
I don't understand why people are still so mystified by this. It's a much more plausible explanation than "Sean Murray is a horrible man who lied to trick people into buying his game!" too.
KCroxtonJr
Member
I couldn't even make it to my ship before my first death LOL
CollectedDust
Member
I'm genuinely impressed. That's a ton of new content. I wonder how the game.would have been received if it shipped like that.
TheVoidDragon
Member
There's some nice looking additions to the game there, and new content is certainty nice so i'm not downplaying it or saying they shouldn't do things like this, but how does this solve the problems with the game people had? All the original complaints and controversy still apply to it, none of that has been solved by this update. How does avoiding those issues entirely make up for anything?
Missing features like that were still mentioned up until near release, it wasn't just years before. Even a video 2 months before the original release date showed features that then weren't in the game.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Is anyone else considering starting the game from scratch? I'm on my fifth galaxy and I think I just might do that.
Zombie James
Banned
First thing that hits you in just how much cleaner the game looks now thanks to temporal AA. The motion blur helps out a lot, too. Every 30fps game should be required to have it.
Did you actually watch the video in the OP?
I do think they need to acknowledge stuff like this
before real healing can begin. I hope the update is great for ya'll that are playing it, though.
This is an example of piss poor, clickbait reporting to begin with and it has been horribly misconstrued, because they only allowed Murray to give short yes or no replies, rather than provide nuanced answers. It's just as easy to attach gameplay elements that exist in NMS as it is to claim Murray was "lying".
Can you grief other players? ("A little bit.")
You can give planets and animals dumb names.
Can you customize the look of your character? (Murray is unsure and doesn't want to say yes, but ends up answering "sort of")
Your weapon is the only part of the player model that you can see, and you can equip different styles of weapon/mining rays.
Do you ever get a look look at your character? ("You can see other characters and they can see you.")
You can see NPCs and they seeing you. Murray did not give a clear 'yes'.
Will you be able to play with your friends? ("Yes")
Arguably the worst offense. While playing with your friends can be taken in a wide sense , this question needed a more specific answer.
Is there a competitive element to this game? ("Yeah, if you want that, yes.")
Scanning and naming as many systems, planets, flora and animals as possible for other players to see.
Edit: Ah, now I remember. You're the same fella who went on a crusade in the NMS OT to prove to people enjoying the game that there will never be an update to it. Glad to see you're taking it so well.
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
Game still doesn't look anything like those E3 videos.
Spend time building a base...why? So you can sit on the same boring planet mining shit, or now let robots mine for you.
The feather in my cap will always be the 60 dollar refund I got from Sony because I said the game fucking sucks.
Spend time building a base...why? So you can sit on the same boring planet mining shit, or now let robots mine for you.
The feather in my cap will always be the 60 dollar refund I got from Sony because I said the game fucking sucks.
Like I said, features get cut. Yes, sometimes even right before launch.
Just recently with Watch Dogs 2 I recall hearing that a multiplayer invasion feature had to be disabled at launch because it wasn't working correctly, and that game came from one of Ubi's behemoth studios.
TheKingOfPain
Member
Then you might as well start on Survival mode.
I'd like to see reviews from people who have yet to play the game at all with this new update.
I was feeling hesitant on buying it at first, so I'm glad I waited. At the same time, seeing them put in the work necessary, I have a feeling I would enjoy this more with the update, or perhaps after the next big one.
I was feeling hesitant on buying it at first, so I'm glad I waited. At the same time, seeing them put in the work necessary, I have a feeling I would enjoy this more with the update, or perhaps after the next big one.