No Post Convention Bounce for Trump

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Excuse you, for telling me or anyone else, to "sit down."

None of those quotes get me riled up in the least. Sure, he has said some non PC shit, but I don't think the guy actually dislikes black people. He says alot of the things black people say about other black people, or any other race for that matter. Regardless of that, I prefer him in general to Hillary.

Yeah, Trump isn't racist. It's not like he demanded the execution of 5 black innocent teenagers...

Oh wait, he did.

And I love the irony of you trying to sugarcoat Trump by saying he is simply "non-PC".

If I called your mom a whore, would that be sexist of me or just "non-PC"?
 
Um this happens in EVERY nation with political parties. I still don't know WHY the US gets singled out with this bs. Must be cause we're more important than anyone else :-D

Well no, in most western democratic nations, including mine, we have way more parties then the two in the US. So it's very common you vote for different parties in your life, as political issues and persons related to certain parties shift. Must be hard to understand for Americans who grew up with only two choices.
 
I'm black and I support Trump. I don't think he himself is racist. Stop lumping everyone who supports him into your "racist and ignorant" category.

People have differing opinions. The end.


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Trump Selects a White Nationalist Leader as a Delegate in California
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/donald-trump-white-nationalist-afp-delegate-california
Johnson applied to the Trump campaign to be a delegate. He was accepted on Monday. In order to be approved he had to sign this pledge sent to him by the campaign: "I, William Johnson, endorse Donald J. Trump for the office of President of the United States. I pledge to cast ALL of my ballots to elect Donald J. Trump on every round of balloting at the 2016 Republican National Convention so that we can MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!" After he signed, the Trump campaign added his name to the list of 169 delegates it forwarded to the secretary of state.

Johnson leads the American Freedom Party, a group that "exists to represent the political interests of White Americans" and aims to preserve "the customs and heritage of the European American people." The AFP has never elected a candidate of its own and possesses at most a few thousand members, but it is "arguably the most important white nationalist group in the country," according to Mark Potok, a senior fellow for the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which tracks hate groups.

Johnson got the news that he had been selected by Trump in a congratulatory email sent to him by the campaign's California delegate coordinator, Katie Lagomarsino. "I just hope to show how I can be mainstream and have these views," Johnson tells Mother Jones. "I can be a white nationalist and be a strong supporter of Donald Trump and be a good example to everybody."


Trump retweets another apparent white supremacist
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/276919-trump-retweets-another-apparent-white-supremacist
Trump has shared social media posts from apparent white supremacists multiple times during his campaign. In January, the GOP front-runner retweeted a user with the handle “WhiteGenocideTM.” And in November of last year, he shared an image from a user that depicted false homicide statistics claiming that black people were killing white people at an alarming rate.

A search of Trump's Twitter history showed that he has retweeted praise from the Dutch white supremacist at least six times since launching his campaign last year.


More Than Half of Trump’s Retweets Are White Supremacists Praising Him
http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/01/donald-trump-mostly-retweets-white-supremacists.html
Last week, presidential candidate Donald Trump caused a minor stir by retweeting someone with the Twitter handle @whitegenocideTM, which some saw as making explicit the connection between Trump and American white supremacists. But that’s just one data point, right? A one-off thing that could have been an intern’s mistake? Unfortunately, no: the data shows that 62 percent of the accounts Trump has retweeted recently have white-supremacist connections.

Marshall Kirkpatrick, of social-media analytics company Little Bird, took a look at the 21 people the Donald has blessed with his fantastic, luxurious retweets this week, and discovered that six of them follow major white-nationalist accounts, and 13 of them follow multiple accounts that have used the #whitegenocide hashtag.

Conclusion? “It turns out that Donald Trump mostly retweets white supremacists saying nice things about him.”

It’s hard to separate cause from effect here. Is Trump riling up the white nationalists by lending them his 5-million-follower megaphone whenever they praise him? Or are racists, who love Trump for his anti-immigration polemics, just more likely than others to send our future hairpiece-in-chief the kind of praise he likes to retweet?

Either way, Trump and white nationalism seem to be caught in a positive-feedback loop, each emboldening the other.


Donald Trump Self Destructs And Retweets Support From White Nationalist
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/22/donald-trump-destructs-retweets-support-white-nationalist.html
The tweeter goes by the handle WhiteGenocideTM and lists his location on his profile as “Jewmerica,” and features a banner on his account that states, “Get The F**k Out Of My Country.” The user’s profile picture is George Lincoln Rockwell, who was the founder of the American Nazi Party, and it also contains a link to documentaries that defend Adolph Hitler.

This may be the most obvious racist in the United States, and here is Donald Trump happily retweeting his tweets. If any other candidate did this, the media would be outraged. However, the corporate press has convinced themselves that Trump is their 2016 meal ticket, so they will turn a blind eye and look the other way while the Republican front runner embraces the support of a white nationalist.

Donald Trump is running a campaign that is fueled by racism and bigotry. His Make America Great slogan has always implied that the country stopped being great after it elected a black man to the White House.

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Donald Trump retweeted a very wrong set of numbers on race and murder
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/22/trump-retweeted-a-very-wrong-set-of-numbers-on-race-and-murder/


Donald Trump Was Once Sued By Justice Department For Not Renting To Blacks
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/donald-trump-blacks-lawsuit_n_855553.html
But for Trump, allegations of racism amount to recurring themes in his larger-than-life career. Two weeks ago, when he was asked during a radio interview about whether or not he is supported by African-Americans, he sparked another firestorm when he blurted: “I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks.” Trump’s comments were “highly offensive,” Walter Fields, former head of NAACP New Jersey, told Capital New York.

Trump styles himself a modern-day beacon of racial sensitivity, often discussing the importance of the civil-rights movement. In his 2000 political manifesto, “The America That We Deserve,” Trump outlined his dream of an America unencumbered by “racism, discrimination against women, or discrimination against people based on sexual orientation.” He once donated office space to Jackson’s civil rights group, the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, he likes to pal around with African-American celebrities such as P. Diddy and Lenny Kravitz and he once hosted an NAACP convention party.

But Trump has been called out several times for racial insensitivity by former co-workers and civil rights activists. In 1991, Trump was accused of making racial slurs against black people in a book written by John R. O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, called “Trumped!” O’Donnell wrote that Trump once said, in reference to a black accountant at Trump Plaza, “laziness is a trait in blacks.” He also told O’Donnell: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

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Yet the most damaging episode in the saga of Trump’s fractured relationship with the black community came in 1973, when his family’s real-estate company, Trump Management Corporation, was sued by the Justice Department for alleged racial discrimination. At the time, Trump was the company’s president. Just last month, at Trump’s Comedy Central roast, Snoop Dogg referenced the case by joking about Trump’s potential 2012 run for the White House: “Why not? It wouldn’t be the first time he pushed a black family out of their home.”

The case alleged that the Trump Management Corporation had discriminated against blacks who wished to rent apartments in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island. The government charged the corporation with quoting different rental terms and conditions to blacks and whites and lying to blacks that apartments were not available, according to reports of the lawsuit.

Two years later, Trump Management settled the case, promising not to discriminate against blacks, Puerto Ricans and other minorities. As part of the agreement, Trump was required to send its list of vacancies in its 15,000 apartments to a civil-rights group, giving them first priority in providing applicants for certain apartments, according to a contemperaneous New York Times account. Trump, who emphasized that the agreement was not an admission of guilt, later crowed that he was satisfied because it did not require them to “accept persons on welfare as tenants unless as qualified as any other tenant.”

But the company didn’t sufficiently fulfill its promise, because three years later, the Justice Department charged Trump Management with continuing to discriminate against blacks through such tactics as telling them that apartments were not available. As part of its demands, the government asked that victims of discrimination be compensated and that Trump Management continue to report to the Justice Department on its compliance. Cohn lashed out, according to the New York Times, claiming that the court motion was “nothing more than a rehash of complaints by a couple of planted malcontents.”


Open your goddamn eyes, dude.
 
I'm black and I support Trump. I don't think he himself is racist. Stop lumping everyone who supports him into your "racist and ignorant" category.

People have differing opinions. The end.

This post is akin to some guy happily slopping down some dick every so often then claiming they aren't gay/bi.
 
I'm black and I support Trump. I don't think he himself is racist. Stop lumping everyone who supports him into your "racist and ignorant" category.

People have differing opinions. The end.
I was going to compare you to Clayton Bigsby on Chappelle Show, but atleast he had the excuse he was blind and tricked into being white.
 
Excuse you, for telling me or anyone else, to "sit down."

None of those quotes get me riled up in the least. Sure, he has said some non PC shit, but I don't think the guy actually dislikes black people. He says alot of the things black people say about other black people, or any other race for that matter. Regardless of that, I prefer him in general to Hillary.
Even if we allow that he himself holds no ill intentions or opinions towards people of color, Vindicator, how can you possibly ignore that he is leading a ticket for a party that has antagonized, disenfranchised, oppressed and discriminated against black people? Your support of Trump is a support for everything he stands for and everything the party that has nominated him stands for. We're in the same same month that conservatives have downplayed the horrors of slavery. In the same month one got out on television and felt empowered enough to state without an ounce of shame that only white people, not "sub groups", have contributed to civilization. You voice in support of the Republican ticket this November raises the volume of all of that ugliness and all of that hate. If you're ok with that I got a shirt for you:

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Now all you'll need is an auction block to stand proudly on while you cheer for Trump.
 
Don't want Trump in office, don't agree with Vindicator, but damn, you guys are vicious.

Think about how that looks to people outside your peer group. You don't really hold any power to coerce on an anonymous message board.

You can't dogpile people once they are in the election booth.
 
Don't want Trump in office, don't agree with Vindicator, but damn, you guys are vicious.

Think about how that looks to people outside your peer group. You don't really hold any power to coerce on an anonymous message board.

You can't dogpile people once they are in the election booth.

It's his vote, but it doesn't mean we won't criticize him for it. I can agree that some of the things said might be going far, at the same time, the people dropping the truth bombs are doing good to explain how simple minded the belief that Trump is just being "non-PC" is when the record shows he's very much just a pure fascist at worst and a racist bigot at best.
 
Don't want Trump in office, don't agree with Vindicator, but damn, you guys are vicious.

Think about how that looks to people outside your peer group. You don't really hold any power to coerce on an anonymous message board.

You can't dogpile people once they are in the election booth.
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Excuse me for not worrying about the feelings of a black dude on the internet in 2016. He'll be ok.
 
I'm black and I support Trump. I don't think he himself is racist. Stop lumping everyone who supports him into your "racist and ignorant" category.

People have differing opinions. The end.

Trump has stated that laziness is a trait of black people, and as such does not want them to handle his money. He has been sued for housing discrimination against black people by the government. He claimed that a judge, a hero in the war on drug smuggling across the border, cannot be impartial in presiding over Trump due to his heritage. He called for the execution of five non-white teens wrongfully convicted of rape and assault.

This is David Duke shit. If David Duke was spouting this rhetoric, we would say "not surprised." Trump is a racist white supremacist, and this is factual.
 
Ether.

Sadly, he'll either come back with "bu- bu- but he doesn't really MEAN any of these things!!" or simply "Yeah I already know about them and choose to ignore them because anti-PC! Woooo!"
Notice how he hasn't responded to a single one of these articles. It's so incredibly transparent.
 
It's his vote, but it doesn't mean we won't criticize him for it. I can agree that some of the things said might be going far, at the same time, the people dropping the truth bombs are doing good to explain how simple minded the belief that Trump is just being "non-PC" is when the record shows he's very much just a pure fascist at worst and a racist bigot at best.

Of course you can criticize him or say whatever you want. Though there's a difference between informing him and calling him an Uncle Tom, KKK member, etc.

I'd be much less likely to take the valid criticisms when faced with that, and I can fully understand walking away from the argument at that point.

What's more important? Having the best zinger against a Trump supporter and impressing your online friends, or changing minds and preventing Trump from taking office?
 
Of course you can criticize him or say whatever you want. Though there's a difference between informing him and calling him an Uncle Tom, KKK member, etc.

I'd be much less likely to take the valid criticisms when faced with that, and I can fully understand walking away from the argument at that point.

What's more important? Having the best zinger against a Trump supporter and impressing your online friends, or changing minds and preventing Trump from taking office?

At this point, Trump supporters are like GamerGate supporters: anyone who's still in the movement is beyond help. They can't even look at literal racism from Trump and say "maybe I shouldn't vote for him."
 
At this point, Trump supporters are like GamerGate supporters: anyone who's still in the movement is beyond help. They can't even look at literal racism from Trump and say "maybe I shouldn't vote for him."

I think that's a bad analogy. GamerGaters are constantly consuming information about the culture war much like yourself.

I think you are making the mistake of assuming everyone is as tuned in as you are to the issues.

Most people don't make politics a priority in their lives. They don't have time to keep up with everything that happens because they have children, have to work multiple jobs, or are just apathetic.

The average Trump supporter may be a racist. They may alsI be someone who is concerned with national security because he hears about daily terrorist attacks and doesn't hear the Democrats addressing the situation as much as Trump.
 
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