*hearty chuckle*
I don't see how after the boring slog that was Feast and the dumpster fire that was Dance
I don't see how after the boring slog that was Feast and the dumpster fire that was Dance
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No Winds of Winter in 2017. Most likely 2018.
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Zelenogorsk
Banned
And yet the Trebon section still sucked lol
ForkNetwork
Banned
I originally thought we would get Dream of Spring by the time I finish college
But to be honest, now I think that it will come out around the time I buy my first house
Thats kinda sad
But to be honest, now I think that it will come out around the time I buy my first house
Thats kinda sad
GRRM runs for president in 2020
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Dude is just living his best life, experiencing the most success and attention he's ever gotten in his whole career. But lets be real, he isn't going to finish this. Maybe the story got too big for him. I have to imagine that the show ending doesn't help at all. He says that isn't going to impact him, but how could it not? I know it would send my productivity into a nosedive. "Well, they already did the thing I was going to do sooooo..." Plus, it's easier to start than it is to finish and he has a WHOLE lot to finish. And then you throw the fact that the show has already done stuff and it ain't lookin' good.
I bet he will promise to write a great deal of incredibly bills to pass.
Mutanthands
Member
I don't think it would hurt too much to have a motivated co-writer to help pull the numerous storylines and characters together into a decent 2-3 books.
I don't know how well G.R.R.M. plays with others, but he seems to need something more than an editor, and something less than some one coming and writing whatever based on his notes after he's gone.
Rawr Its Ry
Member
Thissssss.
Sanderson has already said that while he respects the series and thinks it's very well written, it's not his cup of tea and he stopped reading them after Book 1. He also mentioned his style of shying away from graphic violence would be a bad match.
GRRM really let the fame and money get to his head. For a writer that always bitches and moans about legacy and aspired to be the equivalent of Tolkein in the literary fantasy canon, he can't even finish his own series and his "legacy" will forever be tarnished because he couldn't even finish the one work of his that was any good. His other work like Wild Cards is garbage.
I think D&D are terrible, but at least they will give me some sort of conclusion to this story.
I think D&D are terrible, but at least they will give me some sort of conclusion to this story.
Most likely 2018 isn't even accurate. If it is, maybe it will be out before this late 2018/early 2019 book. Maybe not.
The quality of this book worries me, this is starting to look like a movie that spends years and dozens of script rewrites in preproduction. Watch a book finally drop in 2020 and being the worst one in the series yet. While GRRM announces he split the book into two parts with the second scheduled to come out around his 90th birthday.
The quality of this book worries me, this is starting to look like a movie that spends years and dozens of script rewrites in preproduction. Watch a book finally drop in 2020 and being the worst one in the series yet. While GRRM announces he split the book into two parts with the second scheduled to come out around his 90th birthday.
King
Aegon
Edit: Read this as GRRM finishing his series as a screenplay and turning it into season 8, but following book canon.
The superior Mistborn series will get at least one more trilogy if not two in that timespan so I'm completely OK with that.
I do wonder if this indicates that the spinoff is Targaryen related and he wants to get that material out there.
Lord of Castamere
Member
I thought it'd be funny if HBO announces novelizations of the series that all release before Winds.
I...no. I hated Mistborn, it's just a bunch of wankers eating rocks.
ForkNetwork
Banned
I dont want a neutered ending written by the co-writer of X-Men Origins: Wolverine
I think I prefer not having it than having an unsatisfying version.
The note at the end of Feast for Crows is a classic. "You'll read about those characters when Dance With Dragons releases next year!" Fast foward five years later.
Basileus777
Member
It doesn't. GRRM just likes writing dynastic histories.
Excuse me, it was 6 years.
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Brb, checking my book.
Yep, it's there, and says in parenthesis (I devotedly hope), before the "next year". lol.
Good lord man.
I love this series dearly, but my hype has really faded. If it ever comes out I'll obviously read it, but until then I can't bring myself to care.
Honestly, I feel like I'll have to read the whole series again before reading Winds of Winter anyway. It'll be at least seven years since Dance With Dragons and I know I've forgotten stuff.
I love this series dearly, but my hype has really faded. If it ever comes out I'll obviously read it, but until then I can't bring myself to care.
Honestly, I feel like I'll have to read the whole series again before reading Winds of Winter anyway. It'll be at least seven years since Dance With Dragons and I know I've forgotten stuff.
m_shortpants
Member
I'm over it. I just want to watch D&D butcher the ending and move on with my life
Dash_Riprock
Member
I'm calling it now: TWOW will be the Duke Nukem Forever if literature.
It will be in development for over a decade, by which point it becomes more famous for never being released than being the long-awaited sequel to a once beloved franchise.
Finally, after a decade or more, the original creator is replaced/dies/gives up and hands the reigns over to someone else. They finish it in record time and announce a concrete release date to dumbfounded surprise of everyone. Hype builds, people get excited. Release day comes and the book is FINALLY released...!
...And it sucks. Because not only was it obviously rushed and unpolished by the new writers who just wanted it out ASAP, but in the 10+ years since the last book came out, other authors have taken the concepts and ideas GRRM made popular and either improved on them and/or took them in new, exciting directions. By now, reading TWOW becomes downright boring because all of its once promising and innovate trademarks have been done to death by others.
It will be in development for over a decade, by which point it becomes more famous for never being released than being the long-awaited sequel to a once beloved franchise.
Finally, after a decade or more, the original creator is replaced/dies/gives up and hands the reigns over to someone else. They finish it in record time and announce a concrete release date to dumbfounded surprise of everyone. Hype builds, people get excited. Release day comes and the book is FINALLY released...!
...And it sucks. Because not only was it obviously rushed and unpolished by the new writers who just wanted it out ASAP, but in the 10+ years since the last book came out, other authors have taken the concepts and ideas GRRM made popular and either improved on them and/or took them in new, exciting directions. By now, reading TWOW becomes downright boring because all of its once promising and innovate trademarks have been done to death by others.
Basileus777
Member
Tower of the hand has a nice tracker for ADWD updates that is pretty funny in retrospect.
Sound familiar?
GasProblem
Member
Just announce the actual release date in time so I can reread the series. Until then I'm not going to think about the GoT books.
I still don't know if I want to finish the tv series or not. I only watched up to season 4.
Right now I'm just excited for book 3 in the Stormlight Archives (Oathbringer) coming out in November. I'm happy Brandon Sanderson is a machine and that I really like his books.
I still don't know if I want to finish the tv series or not. I only watched up to season 4.
Right now I'm just excited for book 3 in the Stormlight Archives (Oathbringer) coming out in November. I'm happy Brandon Sanderson is a machine and that I really like his books.
Dash_Riprock
Member
What are the odds Sanderson finishes his 10-book series before GRRM finishes one more book?
Come July of 2018 GRRM will still be announcing shit no one cares about like more Wildcards, while staying mum on WoW. He's not finishing this series. Looking at his schedule, when would he even be able to write? 15 minutes while taking a shit on the plane ride to the next convention or book signing?
If Sanderson devoted all his time to writing only Stormlight. I would bet on Sanderson, handily.
Basileus777
Member
Low. Before GRRM finishes 2 books is a fair bet though.
He only writes at home.
VaultBoy101
Member
I first read A Game of Thrones in 1999.
I wish GRRM well and have no anger towards him. Nobody is obligated to write a book at a faster pace than they are able to, or at all.
But at this point I've really lost interest in his version of the story. The show is Game of Thrones now. Once it's over, the tale is complete for me and I will certainly have no desire to read a slightly alternate version of the events I already watched on screen.
I wish GRRM well and have no anger towards him. Nobody is obligated to write a book at a faster pace than they are able to, or at all.
But at this point I've really lost interest in his version of the story. The show is Game of Thrones now. Once it's over, the tale is complete for me and I will certainly have no desire to read a slightly alternate version of the events I already watched on screen.
With his dozen current projects, I'm still betting on Sanderson.
I wonder if the hold up on Winds is the carry-over of the Knot or whatever he called it from back during the writing of book five. A lot of that carried over, maybe he wrote past it and doubled back and now it's even more of a mess.
Maple-Tech
Banned
Your last paragraph should have already happened with Dance though.
uh oh, who will finish his work now
Basileus777
Member
They can't write though. The parts of the World Book Elio wrote stood out like a sore thumb.
That's still better than no book at all. Of course Martin could give it to someone who can write but that'll never happen. He has collaborated with them before and seems to like them so they're the best chance to actually get a book. This series will never be finished with Martin working on his own.
I'd rather have no book than have those two write it.