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Non-gamer girlfriends, why do we bother?

ToxicAdam

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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1514150/20051118/inadjlasddex.jhtml?headlines=true

When Jake Walker upsets his girlfriend, Jaci Boydston, he might buy her flowers.

When Jaci feels she owes an apology to Jake, she agrees to play a round of the Nintendo fighting game "Super Smash Brothers."

Jaci and Jake, who both attend Kansas State University, are a modern couple dealing with
a modern issue. One of them is a gamer; the other is not. Theirs is not an unusual plight. For decades gamers and non-gamers in love have struggled to find harmony.

At Kansas State the frustration is rampant. Like most college campuses, it is a place where the release of "Halo 2" last year was the best of times and the worst of times. And while there is such a thing as couples in which both people are into games — and while there are sometimes boyfriends who are the non-gamers — the most frequent complaint involves game-crazy guys leaving their girlfriends out in the Xbox-free cold.

"I've started to dislike games a lot more since the start of the relationship," said Megan Hockman, during an interview with MTV News in the dorm room of her boyfriend, Clinton Smith.

Senior Erin Moore says her boyfriend, Jari, binges on Xbox right across the hall from her apartment, where his gaming friends live. "He doesn't come home until 4 in the morning because he's been playing Xbox all night," she said. Once, she got angry. "I went over and stole the game controllers and hid them around the house, and I hid them separately so if they found one they still couldn't play."

Beleaguered girlfriends like Megan and Erin have found solace in Girlfriends Against Video Games, a new campus club. It started as a joke — and it still exists primarily as an online message board at the K-State portion of Facebook.com — but it's become a sounding board for dozens of local students suffering gaming-induced relationship heartache.


The group was started by junior Jenn Calovich, a girlfriend with her own gaming-obsessed boyfriend. She said she's taken most of the obsession in stride and even bought boyfriend Jeff Kung a subscription to Xbox Live for Valentine's Day. For his part Jeff said he'll stop playing a game when Jenn pays him a visit, though he'll occasionally "put it on pause and sometimes hope that she might leave early."

Students have poured out their complaints on the Facebook group's message board. The stories of struggling couples blend together. "They'll grow apart and tension will get high and they'll just break up," Jenn said. "I've heard that story a lot."

What started out in jest — and inspired the less serious Boyfriends Against Girlfriends Against Video Games counter-group — has been a relief for some members. Megan joined the group earlier this fall. "I went and read about it, and I was like, 'Well, that's everything I feel.' "

Megan has been fretting about Clinton's obsession all year. "I think the biggest issue I have is how much money he spends on it," she said. "He has a campus job, and campus jobs don't pay very much at all. Then he gets his paycheck and spends it all on video games."

Clinton has found a way around the financial obstacle. "Recently I started giving plasma to help pay for video games," he admitted. That nets him $55 a week.


Megan has tried to get Clinton to pull back on his gaming, but her most serious attempt backfired. "I think the one thing that I said to make him so mad [was that] he needed to grow out of video games," she said. "He didn't want to talk to me for a week."

"I just remember sitting there being absolutely furious that she said that," Clinton said. "That's what I love to do, and I don't see any reason to grow out of it."

That type of intervention also failed with Geoff Matousek, 19. Last year, after seeing that his gaming was hurting their relationship and causing him to skip classes, his girlfriend asked him to play less.

He tried. "I probably hadn't played more than once or twice in that week," he said. "I guess I was going through withdrawal or something. When the next week started, I played continuously, like every day. Probably four to five hours a day, maybe more."

He finds it cathartic to play games. "It's a place for me to release my anger and talk to people online," he said.

At the end of the school year, his girlfriend broke up with him. "I truly loved her, but gaming affected that," he said. Only now does he think he's got his playtime under control.

Last May then-junior Jaci wrote a lighthearted column for the school newspaper warning her fellow Kansas State students about gamer boyfriends. "By far the hardest thing to get used to was the hours upon hours spent using a chunk of plastic and some cords to make a little guy on TV fight with other little guys on TV," she wrote.

She offered warnings but wasn't able to identify many solutions. At the first in-person meet-up for Girlfriends Against Video Games in October, members offered suggestions of how best they can cope. "Lay down the law," said Erin, who said she's found success tearing Jari away from games by wooing him with the idea of going to a movie. Others suggested trying harder to play games with their boyfriends, if just for a little while.

Jenn said non-gaming significant others need to make sure that meeting the gamers they love halfway really means meeting them halfway. "There comes a point when being the cool girlfriend means your give and take is more like you're giving instead of taking."

Then there are the suggestions the gamers themselves offer. "One thing that I always found is a thumbs-up in the girlfriend department is turning off the video game as soon as they come in," said Jaci's boyfriend, Jake. "[It's good] if you have a 'disposable' game that you can be playing, and then they come in and you say, 'Oh, how's it going?' and just turn it right off."

It's a bit of a scheme, he admits. "You're not actually giving up video games," he said. "That's not the thing we're trying to express here. You can hide the video game. You can play them when they're not there."

— Stephen Totilo


Anyone relate?
 
I think the better question is "gamer boyfriends: why do girls bother?" (well, usually they don't, but I digress). I consider myself fortunate b/c my fiancée doesn't game as a hobby like I do, but she'll be open-minded and make an effort to play stuff like Super Monkey Ball, Smash Bros., etc. I even once tried to teach her how to play Madden, which was fucking hilarious. She also knows I like games so she'll buy me games and she even offered to wait in line to get a 360 for me at launch for Christmas (though I convinced her it wasn't worth it, money- and time-wise). The only shit she won't touch are FPSes and sports games, and I don't really blame her, that shit is like what Redbook and Sex in the City is to guys for 99% of girls. It does help though that I'm not a "hardc0re gamer" like the guy apparently described in that article, because that level of obsession, for almost anything, is just pathetic and I don't see why anyone would put up with it.
 
Why the fuck is she still with him then? Holy damn. Anyone who devotes that much time to videogames shouldn't be bothered with, IMO.

And I don't need my girlfriend to share any affinity for videogames. Its a minor thing and a minor interest, and should be one. I'd rather spend my time with her doing/discussing other things.
 
MTV said:
Students have poured out their complaints on the Facebook group's message board. The stories of struggling couples blend together. "They'll grow apart and tension will get high and they'll just break up," Jenn said. "I've heard that story a lot."

No. No no no no NO! You want to get super high tension before breaking up. It does far more damage.

...
 
My GF loves the Atari 2600 (she actually bought it for my birthday one year), and will play SMB3 all day long.... but I just can't seem to get her into MGS3 or Soul Calibur. :lol


*she also liked the eye toy (another present) :)
 
Clinton has found a way around the financial obstacle. "Recently I started giving plasma to help pay for video games," he admitted. That nets him $55 a week.

Uhhh This guys girlfriend is probably right. This dude plays to much videogames.
 
...kids. Life is about balance... you have to find time to balance all the things you have to deal with. If that means you don't get to videogame on a particular day, no big deal... there will be another day, etc.... Balance is the key to happiness...
 
Don't worry RevoLOLution will turn them out!

Or maybe they'll hear they can buy stuff on Xbox Live - WOMEN LOVE SHOPPING!

Sony am cry!

But seriously - these sorts of compromises is why I'm perfectly content with Rosie Palmer and her five sisters. :X
 
sometimes i wonder how happy i can be if my wife was a gamer....but then again i feel like i live a more balanced life because of her. there's plenty of things to do besides playing games
 
i had a gamer tolerant girlfriend for 7 years and i always bemoaned the fact that she didn't like games and required me to do other stuff like go to the cinema, go to the theatre, go on shopping trips for stuff, go for romantic dinners...

now i have a gamer gf, it's sort of odd. We play our games in seperate rooms and , if anything, she plays games way more than me because of the fact she doesn't waste her time on message boards.

It actually gets quite crappy sometimes - some weekends we spend huge chunks of our time together virtually (WoW).

Thing is, i've been prone to what i'd call non-gamer outbursts - i mean, when someone says "yeah, i'll come to bed in a minute..." and it's 10pm at night... then you can hear them in the other room "chohatsu"ing NMs in FFXI until 4am it becomes VERY annoying VERY quickly. What is even worse is if you wait up for that person and they are too tired to ... erm... uh... well... you know.

I used to have no sympathy for non-gamer partners, but i've learned what it must feel like. Gamer/nongamer couples have to find a balance - and Gamers have to learn that bedroom gymnastics is a far better game than FFXI or WoW... well... it's better than FFXI.... maybe not WoW....
 
The Faceless Master said:
she doesn't have to like videogames, as long as she like watching me play :)

My gf likes to watch me play, and she plays some games too! God bless you Katamari, Pikmin, and Nintendogs!
 
I'm going to make my girlfriend watch me play Shadow of the Colossus, Final Fantasy 7, and MGS 1-3 so she will learn to appreciate the finer points of videogames, like good stories. I figure she'll find it more interesting if it's not just shooting people in Halo. I know Halo has a story, but that shit belongs on Spike TV.
 
"I'm going to make my girlfriend watch me play Shadow of the Colossus, Final Fantasy 7, and MGS 1-3 so she will learn to appreciate the finer points of videogames, like good stories."

... lol, and then she'll give you some books and pwn you totally.

"I figure she'll find it more interesting if it's not just shooting people in Halo. I know Halo has a story, but that shit belongs on Spike TV."

As gamers we are impressed by the most unimpressive stories IMO. The industry has a lot maturing do in this sense IMO. It's time we got skilled professionals in to help with this.
 
My girlfriend is not a gamer but she sometimes injects herself into my gaming sessions. For example if I'm playing a fighting or wrestling game she will ask for the 2nd controller and we'll play for a while. She'll also sit down to watch me play GTA. It's sorta like her way to connect with me inside my hobby, the same way I show interest from time to time on her things like her decoration side gig or her gardening.
 
My girlfriend has played videogames, but not any that I enjoy. I am into RPGs and FPSs on the PC and she is into Mario Paint and Bubble Bobble. We do not currently live together, so I can get my game on on the days she works or stays home. When she is here, occasionally I may game but that is only when she is doing something else (IE reading a book, or whatever), but the main thing is when to know to spend some US time. Go on IRC or any message board and you will see MANY MANY guys with game all the time and bitch they dont get girls or laid. Appriciate that you have a gf and are getting some. The game will always be there, but the girl and the sex may not. Take advantage of it while its available, then game when it is not.
 
too much gaming = bad.

As a 300+ hours BF2 player i can attest to that.

Girlfriends shouldnt mind if you do it normally on the other hand.
 
I've had both gaming and non-gaming girlfriends. I will say that having a gamer girlfriend is by far the superior experience, but just having one who doesn't bitch about me spending a week in front of the television the 3-4 times a year a particularly exceptional game comes around and just generally understands and accepts that I like to play games, that's ok too.

Non-gaming girlfriends who think it's just a complete waste of time? Well, trying to build something serious with one is a waste of time. It will not last once the sex gets old. Oh, and in my experience gaming girlfriends are much better in bed (or where ever) anyway. I wonder why that is. Granted, I haven't gathered enough empirical evidence to make it a scientific fact, but still!
 
this thread is worthless without Morgan Webb pics
 
When I buy a game I know it will always be around later. Other people might not.

It's really not that hard to be reasonable with your playtime, or to schedule it when the significant other isn't around (working, sleeping, etc). That lady in the story will inevitably become bored and leave him.
 
Guy's a tool, girl sounds like a child. MTV should stick to reporting on their pop culture trash, and leave the gaming articles and such to the so called professionals in this industry.

isamu said:
this thread is worthless without Morgan Webb pics

Or you COULD just use google and use the words: "overrated."
 
I'm so lucky to be going out with the girl I'm with, we've played through Paper Mario 2 together and have now started on Kingdom Hearts, we both own DS's and picked them up together at launch and will probably start to see each other more through Animal Crossing than in the flesh once that game comes out. :lol

She wants me to be playing Dragon Quest VIII whilst she cleans her clothes tonight so that she can feel as though she's playing something by proxy. :D

She even baked me this cake for my birthday:
prince_cake.jpg


I love her much. :)
 
Deg said:
too much gaming = bad.

As a 300+ hours BF2 player i can attest to that.

Girlfriends shouldnt mind if you do it normally on the other hand.

Exactly. If it's in moderation, it's the same thing as watching a movie, listening to an album, etc. It becomes problematic when you're playing games for hours, every day.
 
ShowDog said:
I'm going to make my girlfriend watch me play Shadow of the Colossus, Final Fantasy 7, and MGS 1-3 so she will learn to appreciate the finer points of videogames, like good stories.
So why's FF7 part of that list?
To show her that games that aren't like Halo can have horrible stories as well?
She'll probably resent you for making her endure the shitty graphics and soundtrack, too.
 
Those article and all... It's always about people that are in exageration or dependance.
Shit it does help our image that's for sure. I'm sure there's TONS of resonable gamer out there, me included of course.
 
The article should be called "BAD BOYFRIENDS".

Really, you could put 'cars', 'hunting', 'paintball', 'friends', etc... in place of 'video games' and you'll find plenty of girls who face the same problem.

Clinton and Jari are dicks.
 
olimario said:
The article should be called "BAD BOYFRIENDS".

Really, you could put 'cars', 'hunting', 'paintball', 'friends', etc... in place of 'video games' and you'll find plenty of girls who face the same problem.

Clinton and Jari are dicks.


Wait...didn't someone tell me you sold naked pictures of your sig other for something game related?

You may not be the best judge of "BAD BOYFRIENDS"

~l2e
 
Letter to Elise said:
Wait...didn't someone tell me you sold naked pictures of your sig other for something game related?

Someone might have mentioned it. What they failed to mention, I'm sure, is that she came to me about doing it. Even then I felt bad about it, sold the PSP, and used the money to help buy her a laptop for her birthday.
 
olimario said:
Someone might have mentioned it. What they failed to mention, I'm sure, is that she came to me about doing it. Even then I felt bad about it, sold the PSP, and used the money to help buy her a laptop for her birthday.
yes of course, she read the proposition on O*P*A and put a gun to your head while you were taking naked pictures of her for a material posession, choir boy.
 
My girlfriend is a gamer. I'm the big Nintendo dork, and she'd kill someone who gave her PS2 a dirty look.

When she's over and we're not doing..things..we usually play DDR, Guitar Hero, Mario Kart, etc. She's pretty open to most things. Then again, I'm not a big FPS/sports person, which most women seem to run away from.

Actually, she came over and watched me play RE4 on Friday. Then today she told me that she borrowed Code Veronica from a friend later that day and was hooked on it. We're both kind of bordering on the 'hardcore' line. We both have other hobbies and what not, and we both play quite a bit...but not to the point of blowing things (or each other) off. And neither of us are MMO addicts, which I'm sure is a GOOD THING (TM).

I think the biggest drama to result from gaming is that she's always stealing my damn DS when I'm not looking. The little strap makes it easy for her to slip the thing out of my pocket. Only once did she actually go home with it though, and she didn't even remember to feed my pup. So irresponsible. :D
 
Date of Lies said:
yes of course, she read the proposition on O*P*A and put a gun to your head while you were taking naked pictures of her for a material posession, choir boy.


Why speak on the issue when you have absolutely no idea?
 
ShowDog said:
I'm going to make my girlfriend watch me play Shadow of the Colossus, Final Fantasy 7, and MGS 1-3 so she will learn to appreciate the finer points of videogames, like good stories. I figure she'll find it more interesting if it's not just shooting people in Halo. I know Halo has a story, but that shit belongs on Spike TV.
MGS2? Finer points like good story?

You cannot convince someone of video games with their stories, and in a way that's good because stories in videogames should be frameworks that you can fill with your own story pieces by playing the game.

The biggest problem this kind of game usually has is that the gameplay is too detached from the written story and it's presentation. My personal problem with MGS for instance.
 
olimario said:
Why speak on the issue when you have absolutely no idea?
why not though? Sure I dont know the details or maybe even half of it, but we all have a pretty general idea of what happened.


I'm sorry, let's just stop talking about it.
 
DCharlie said:
... lol, and then she'll give you some books and pwn you totally.



As gamers we are impressed by the most unimpressive stories IMO. The industry has a lot maturing do in this sense IMO. It's time we got skilled professionals in to help with this.

amen and amen. I'd leave fantasy land for a moment before genre ridden elitism sets in.

I've never dated a woman who liked to do more than hit the arcades occasionally. Having your girlfriend put you off to play FFXI would be a very different experience.
 
DCharlie said:
until 4am it becomes VERY annoying VERY quickly.
Uhm, so what happens AFTER you get married? *_*

But yea, it's completely true, until you've been on the receiving end you have no clue how annoying that can get.
 
My girlfriend plays Wario Ware, Tetris Attack, Mario Kart, Katamari, and any other good/quirky games with me.

I prefer the non-gamer girlfriends, actually. They have interests that are more endearing to me, and when I'm with a chick, I don't want her going nuts over the same things I do. It makes it more interesting if we like different things once in a while.
 
monchi-kun said:
sometimes i wonder how happy i can be if my wife was a gamer....but then again i feel like i live a more balanced life because of her. there's plenty of things to do besides playing games

Exaactly. Thanks to my wife, I'm actually not totally disconnected from reality.
 
"Uhm, so what happens AFTER you get married? *_*"

online divorce ... in Orgrimmar...
I just need to kill FFXI - i just find it so... crap (sorry FFXI fans)

"But yea, it's completely true, until you've been on the receiving end you have no clue how annoying that can get."

the rows get really tetchy. and i suck at arguing...

I rolled out the "you keep saying you are a gamer - but that's bull - you only play ONE game these days!" gambit in the heat of an argument.

Her response was "you are too busy talking about gaming on GAF to play games! Come on then, what were the last games _you_ finished and when was it you finished them? Oh, that's right - i've finished 5 games THIS MONTH _and_ played FFXI. What did you manage? Did you get past the load screen on Tekken 5 yet? or are you still struggling on the 'opening the plastic wrapping' level?"

Pwnt.

Every day she just reinforces it "Finished Wander yet? Finished DQ8 yet? Finished FEAR yet? Finished Doom 3 : Res yet? ... oh, _what_ a surprise! no to all of them!"

.... it's never to late to call off a wedding! ;) * i kid *
 
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