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November Wrasslin |OT| Apathy is Trending

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Mr. Sam

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My goodness, is it November already? Time really flies, doesn't it? October has been a month of realisations. The WWE has realised, with feverish excitement, that if they get Michael Cole to say something weird enough or enough times, it'll trend on Twitter. John Cena realised that HE CAN'T FIGHT THESE TWO MEN ON HIS OWN BUT YES HE CAN BUT THE ROCK DRIBBLE DRIBBLE. Kevin Nash has realised he's going to make wrestling cool again by making stupid faces. Daniel Bryan realised that there are only two types of people in this world without beards; women and children. Hulk Hogan realised that he can totally swerve these jabroni marks, brother. Bootaaay realised that I'll gladly put the poster for CHIKARA's High Noon, November 13th, in the OP.

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Carnby

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DyslexicAlucard said:
I know you're not defending this booking--you're just stating the obvious--but what the fuck is the point of "protecting" Cena in the ridiculously overpowered state he is currently in? Wouldn't having him actually lose cleanly once in a while actually help his underdog schtick and get people to care about his matches more? This is doing the exact opposite; it's making the heels the underdogs in essentially every match he's in, which seems insanely counter-intuitive.

Vince should be protecting wrestlers that he is trying to establish as a main-event-level talent, not ones that are already astronomically over. Del Rio is a perfect example of this. He shouldn't be losing clean to every face on the roster. I'm not saying he has to make all of the faces tap, but at least let us think it's possible. As-is, no one thinks Del Rio would beat Cena one-on-one. Same goes for Miz, R-Truth, Barret, Rhodes, Ziggler, Swagger etc.. None of these guys, despite all of them getting/having gotten big pushes, seem like any real threat to the likes of Cena/Orton/Punk (it sucks to have to put Punk here, but it's true :S).

The only heel in recent memory to beat a face clean is Mark Henry, and holy shit, it worked! People care about Mark Henry! Now "marks" will perceive most of the roster as underdogs against Henry, and whoever on Smackdown finally beats him--assuming it's not fucking Orton--will get a huge amount of respect and will essentially be insta-pushed. Henry won't lose any credibility either, assuming that he's not booked like garbage after losing the title. We'll just have two more legit main eventers, instead of an overabundance of former champion mid-card jobbers.

For the record, I'm aware that most of this is common sense and that I'm preaching to the choir. But you just gotta sometimes, y'know?

Also, I really shouldn't have posted such a long rant at the very tail end of this thread. Don't be surprised/offended if I copy this into the November thread. I really want to foster some actual discussion about this topic, re: what is the purpose of "protecting" someone, and how talent should be established properly vs. how it's currently being done.

Great post. I was thinking of bringing this over to the November thread before I even read that part.

I particularly liked the point you made with Mark Henry. It's very true. His clean win at NOC and HIAC were the highlights of the night. But credit should also be given to Orton for losing cleanly each time as the final spots were very exciting. I still love the finish to the NOC match. Orton looks at Henry, and Henry shakes his head as if to say, "don't even try RKO'ing me."

Has anyone noticed that it usually takes three World's Strongest Slams for Henry to win? Because of that I have nicknamed his finisher the 3rd World Strongest Slam.
 

krae_man

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Dork Knight has 2 accounts and posted exactly two more times then me in both of them?

Edit: Okay who was that dressed up as Kitana?
 
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Deleted member 47027

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Nice OP!

I didn't make the wall of shame! Maybe because rasslin' is so tepid!

Who wants to talk WCW? I got these sweet Ultimo Dragon vids...
 
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Yknow what's nice? Last night, Punk vs Henry, I immediately thought "No way Punk wins clean at all, Henry is a monster."

Their booking works! It works with Henry! That's what you get when you build him right!

Now, I'm just hoping their actual booking of Pig-Man (Clay) will be as inspired as their promos.
 

krae_man

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Sunflower said:
Yknow what's nice? Last night, Punk vs Henry, I immediately thought "No way Punk wins clean at all, Henry is a monster."

Their booking works! It works with Henry! That's what you get when you build him right!

Now, I'm just hoping their actual booking of Pig-Man (Clay) will be as inspired as their promos.

We won't get a chance to find out. He's going to get pregnant and have to take a year off in a couple weeks.
 
They're doing a good thing with Broadus Clay, but I'm just worried that King Koopa will be too green when he debuts. I am totally unfamiliar with his FCW/NXT work, so I admit to being misinformed.

But, I do like that Henry's still booked to be a strong monster heel. I can't get enough of that type of character.

krae_man said:
We won't get a chance to find out. He's going to get pregnant and have to take a year off in a couple weeks.
Haha.
 

krae_man

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I bet this means Miz and Truth will win the tag titles so Cena can be tag champs with the person he's feuding with AGAIN.
 
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spindashing said:
Whoah. Isn't he uber Christian and against drugs or something of the sorT? That's crazy.

Nah, he's a conspiracy nut, I can tell you that much. So that...well I guess to some that might mean uber Christian but you know what I mean. :)
 

UberTag

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krae_man said:
I bet this means Miz and Truth will win the tag titles so Cena can be tag champs with the person he's feuding with AGAIN.
Or perhaps The Awesome Truth will win the tag belts and then lose to Rock-Cena in a non-title contest.
Because losing non-title matches is the thing to do with champions and briefcase winners these days, you know. Really helps them to get over.

Sucks for Kofi Kingston, but hey... it could be worse. At least he's not JoMo.
 

Kaladin

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mooooose said:
It has to be weed. He seems like two straight of a guy. Though he has been looking pretty cut lately.

He has definitely bulked up since his debut. I could see it being some performance enhancer he wasn't aware of.
 

Razorskin

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Kingston obviously introduced Bourne to weed, a choir boy like Evan would never do such a thing if it wasn't for that Jamaica's influence.
 

Brinbe

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Wow, that is definitely an unfortunate surprise. Finally given a proper run, of sorts, and that happens. Well, hope it's a wake-up call for whatever violation it was, because I don't think they'll be giving him too many chances.
 
Sunflower said:
Nah, he's a conspiracy nut, I can tell you that much. So that...well I guess to some that might mean uber Christian but you know what I mean. :)
Haha!

UberTag said:
Sucks for Kofi Kingston, but hey... it could be worse. At least he's not JoMo.
Seriously. Although Kofi isn't at John Morrison's position, I still feel bad for the guy. Going from having a heated feud with Randy Orton to obscurity in a short span of time sucks. Then, he got some sort of a push being the tag champs with Evan. Now that this is going on, I feel even more for him.

I feel for Evan too. They're actually doing something with the guy and this happens. But, eh, I guess he had it coming.
 
Judderman said:
Didn't see that coming.
They probably should have given the tag titles to someone else before suspending him. We're going to have a month of tag teams without a title on the line? Totally lame. Plus Air Boom is an extremely boring pair of champions. Give it to Ziggler/Swagger or Miz/R Truth and get some heat.
 

Ydahs

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djsandman said:
He has definitely bulked up since his debut. I could see it being some performance enhancer he wasn't aware of.
I don't know. It could be a pain killer addiction that started once he suffered that ankle injury months back.

Not every violation is due to illegal substances as I'm pretty sure overdoses and abuse of legal substances is also a violation of the wellness program.
 
They don't suspend people for weed anymore. It's probably spice. Alot of the wrestlers were doing it and didn't know you would get suspended for it.
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
I honestly think they'll just completely ignore the tag titles for the entire month and hope nobody notices.

And they won't.
 

Omega

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I like your thread title.

Everything is "trending" during WWE events. Before a match even starts you have Michael Cole saying "this is trending worldwide!"

My Survivor Series Prediction:

1. The Rock turns on John Cena, however..
2. Cena turns Super Saiyan 4
3. Cena still ends up winning the match via a three-man Attitude Adjustment on The Rock + Awesome Truth and it breaks the ring. (Because Cena always has to be the center of attention so they need to one-up the Big Show/Mark Henry)

(that's what they call his move right? I haven't paid attention to Cena in forever and last remember it being the FU)
 
RAW was really fun last night. The Muppets were a great addition and added to the overall experience. Plus getting to see Ryder and Ziggler in a match again is always a plus. I really wish they would let Ziggler be the same as he is from Ryder's web show. He just has that 'it' factor.
 

jmdajr

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FallingEdge said:
RAW was really fun last night. The Muppets were a great addition and added to the overall experience. Plus getting to see Ryder and Ziggler in a match again is always a plus. I really wish they would let Ziggler be the same as he is from Ryder's web show. He just has that 'it' factor.

Yeah I had fun. Just don't know the point of Cena winning.

I guess Survivor Series is going to be a show of who can kick Awesome Truths ass better/more.
 

Ydahs

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I guess they can still use Smackdown to remove the belts from Air Boom, unless it's effective immediately.
 
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Yknow you can say this puts WWE in a bind but it's easy to book around this if they wanted to.
 
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krae_man said:
Big Show to team with Kofi?

Kofi looks for a partner!
or
Belts vacated due to Evan Bourne being a CRAZY ADDICT
or
Bourne "no shows" the event, heel turn on Kofi leading into a feud!
or
Any 1000 different Tag Teams "lay out" Bourne off-camera and they force Kofi to forfeit
or
the list goes on
 
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