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[Heroman]

The Rock is top 5 of all time

Naw, he wouldn't be even in the top 20.

 

[Anth0ny]

Rock is top 5 easy

EASY

 

[Sephzilla]

My personal top 5 of all time, in no particular order, is;

-- The Rock
-- Stone Cold
-- Bret Hart
-- Macho Man
-- Ric Flair

Undertaker, HBK, Hogan, Sting, and Cena are in the honorable mention tier.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

You need Sasha brain and Bryan brain combined levels of damage to find either in the discussion for "GOAT" but Dwayne not

 

[imBask]

Naw, he wouldn't be even in the top 20.

if you're talking in-ring, yeah

but if you take into account the
looks
psychology
charisma
mic skillz
timing

he's top 5, easy

 

[Kaladin]

Mah Fave Five

1. Ric Flair
2. Stone Cold
3. Triple H
4. Undertaker
5. The Rock

Honorable mentions and sometimes on this list depending on the time of day you ask: Daniel Bryan, HBK, Mick Foley, Chris Jericho, Kevin Owens

 

[SallyIsNow]

Austin couldn't get the 3peat on The Rock at Wrestlemania, probably because he's a bitch.

Dwayne "The Bitch" Johnson needed Big Sexy to tire Austin out before the match to even get the 123 at Mania X9.

 

[Sephzilla]

Fine, I'll properly rank mine

Fave Five All Time
1- Stone Cold Steve Austin
2- Bret "The Hitman" Hart
3- The Rock
4- Macho Man Randy Savage
5- Ric Flair

BONUS Top Ten All Time
6- Undertaker
7- Shawn Michaels
8- John Cena
9- Hulk Hogan
10- Sting

PS: Sorry, Data West, I'm not knowledgeable enough about overseas wrestling to rank any of them.

 

[Sephzilla]

Speaking of Rock. What three matches would you rank as his best?

• First WrestleMania match against Austin
• Final WrestleMania match against Austin
• WrestleMania 18 against Hogan

I actually think his WM17 match against Austin is the worst of the three Austin matches, plus it has the worst ending.

 

[Professor Beef]

Dwayne "The Bitch" Johnson needed Big Sexy to tire Austin out before the match to even get the 123 at Mania X9.

He didn't need anybody's help beating Hogan at Wrestlemania.

 

[DMczaf]

See, I would list his match with Hogan in there as well but I wanted someone else to step out saying that to see if they would get shot first.

His Final with Stone cold works on emotion alone. That match eats me up everytime.

Especially that post match moment 😢😢😢

 

[imBask]

See, I would list his match with Hogan in there as well but I wanted someone else to step out saying that to see if they would get shot first.

His Final with Stone cold works on emotion alone. That match eats me up everytime.

The look he and Hogan give eachother before the match is what wrasslin is all about

 

[Sephzilla]

See, I would list his match with Hogan in there as well but I wanted someone else to step out saying that to see if they would get shot first.

His Final with Stone cold works on emotion alone. That match eats me up everytime.

The look he and Hogan give eachother before the match is what wrasslin is all about

Hogan vs Rock at WM18 is probably the best example of crowd working in professional wrestling. That crowd was fucking lit for that match and both of them played right into it. That pop when Hogan kicks out of the Rock Bottom and starts Hulking Up is one of the biggest pops I've ever seen - I'd maybe put it second only to the pop that happens when Austin's music hits during Foley's Raw title win.

 

[Barrage]

Not sure what order I would rank them but for me:

Mr. Perfect
Ric Flair
Stone Cold
Rock
Bret Hart

...would make my list.

Speaking of Rock. What three matches would you rank as his best?

The Rock VS Stone Cold Steve Austin- Wrestlemania X-7
The Rock VS Kurt Angle VS The Undertaker- Vengeance 2002
The Rock VS HHH (Ladder Match)-Summerslam 1998

(There are some one-on-ones with Angle and Jericho that are probably better than the Ladder Match, but its the best match of probably my favourite iteration of the Rock. Its definently worth a watch).

 

[somedevil]

Well at the Smackdown taping they are going to do an episode of NXT for this wednesday and Asuka is there.

Raw Viewership for 11/21:

8pm: 3.137
9pm: 3.097
10pm: 2.772

Avg: 3.002

Goldberg helped them avg 3 million. Lost 365,000 viewers during the 3 hours though.

 

[DMczaf]

Well at the Smackdown taping they are going to do an episode of NXT for this wednesday and Asuka is there.

Raw Viewership for 11/21:

8pm: 3.137
9pm: 3.097
10pm: 2.772

Avg: 3.002

Goldberg helped them avg 3 million. Lost 365,000 viewers during the 3 hours though.

Dadberg is a god damn draaaaaaaw

 

[Anth0ny]

Well at the Smackdown taping they are going to do an episode of NXT for this wednesday and Asuka is there.

Raw Viewership for 11/21:

8pm: 3.137
9pm: 3.097
10pm: 2.772

Avg: 3.002

Goldberg helped them avg 3 million. Lost 365,000 viewers during the 3 hours though.

Draaaaaawberg

 

[Rockandrollclown]

Not enough Angle in these lists. Top 5

Stone Cold Steve Austin
Ric Flair
The Rock
Kurt Angle
Bret Hart

I feel bad that HBK doesn't make the cut here.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Hogan vs Rock at WM18 is probably the best example of crowd working in professional wrestling. That crowd was fucking lit for that match and both of them played right into it. That pop when Hogan kicks out of the Rock Bottom and starts Hulking Up is one of the biggest pops I've ever seen - I'd maybe put it second only to the pop that happens when Austin's music hits during Foley's Raw title win.

https://streamable.com/1mop

Damn near thunderous.

 

[Kaladin]

Not enough Angle in these lists. Top 5

Stone Cold Steve Austin
Ric Flair
The Rock
Kurt Angle
Bret Hart

I feel bad that HBK doesn't make the cut here.

Angle doesn't crack my top 10. His TNA run kinda killed it.

 

[Caderfix]

The Rock is ok, he is very charismatic and all that. He is not in my top 10, maybe not even in my top 15, but I can see why so many put him on top.

 

[Anth0ny]

I know my top 4 is rock Austin Bret flair

5 is tough and really close between a lot of guys.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Well at the Smackdown taping they are going to do an episode of NXT for this wednesday and Asuka is there.

Raw Viewership for 11/21:

8pm: 3.137
9pm: 3.097
10pm: 2.772

Avg: 3.002

Goldberg helped them avg 3 million. Lost 365,000 viewers during the 3 hours though.

IT'S HAPPENING

 

[Syder]

I feel like Wrasslin' Top 10s are pretty arbitrary, especially when it's of all time. Rock & Austin would still be in my Top 5 of all time though but I'm fairly young and didn't watch much WCW.

 

[Sephzilla]

https://streamable.com/1mop

Damn near thunderous.

I wasn't even a big Hogan fan growing up and I still marked out massively for that moment.

The only way it could have been better is if Hogan suddenly did some DBZ-esque transformation and was suddenly red/yellow Hogan.

Angle doesn't crack my top 10. His TNA run kinda killed it.

Angle's probably #11 for me. He'd probably be in my top 10 if he stayed in WWE, I do agree his TNA run hurt him overall

 

[Sephzilla]

So I didn't watch Raw last night. What happened? Is Goldberg actually chasing a title or is he entering the Royal Rumble or something?

 

[Rockandrollclown]

Angle doesn't crack my top 10. His TNA run kinda killed it.

I admit that his spot in the top 5 for me is a hypothetical. I will always believe that in another reality where Kurt Angle doesn't fuck up his career so bad he goes on to be the greatest of all time.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

https://twitter.com/WWEalerts/status/801152018412929026

Alberto Del Rio noted in an interview that we will only see him on Total Divas for "four or five seconds" as WWE cannot use his image.

I thought E! contracts were different!

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

So I didn't watch Raw last night. What happened? Is Goldberg actually chasing a title or is he entering the Royal Rumble or something?

Yeah he announced he's going into the rumble. And will probably win if WWE see them ratings as a goldmine.

Universal Champ Brock Lesnar incoming for that main-event rematch at Wrestlemania.

 

[Professor Beef]

I wasn't even a big Hogan fan growing up and I still marked out massively for that moment.

The only way it could have been better is if Hogan suddenly did some DBZ-esque transformation and was suddenly red/yellow Hogan.

Like he rips off his pants like he's in the NBA and the red/yellow pants are already on, I'd mark out and also find that fucking hilarious.

 

[Caderfix]

The only way it could have been better is if Hogan suddenly did some DBZ-esque transformation and was suddenly red/yellow Hogan.

Hulkamanian God Hulkamanian. The Rock's career would've ended right there due to a whole new level of no sell.

 

[Sephzilla]

behind curtains, he signed extended contract.

last night, confirmed he will be at rumble.

Goldberg in the Rumble is basically a perfect spot for him.

And, you know what, fuck it. If Goldberg actually committed to a short run with the company again, I'd be okay with him getting a world title belt. God forbid we actually have a champion who can draw, look tough in the ring, and (shockingly) talk.

Like he rips off his pants like he's in the NBA and the red/yellow pants are already on, I'd mark out and also find that fucking hilarious.

Yes, exactly this.

Honestly the moment already is a perfect mark out moment that's also hilarious. Because it's Hogan doing the Hulk Up, and Rock's face clearly shows that he, in fact, did not contemplate what he would do should Hulkamania decide to run wild on him.

Hulkamanian God Hulkamanian. The Rock's career would've ended right there due to a whole new level of no sell.

Not to mention Rock would have probably killed himself trying to sell that.

 

[Menome]

All-Time Top 5:

Randy Savage
Arn Anderson
The Rock
Hulk Hogan
Steve Austin

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Reigns/Goldberg at Mania for the belt <3

 

[Menome]

https://twitter.com/WWEalerts/status/801152018412929026

I thought E! contracts were different!

Talking of which, any word yet from the dirtsheets on if he's broken up with Paige? Still got January's avatar riding on it.

 

[Anth0ny]

So I didn't watch Raw last night. What happened? Is Goldberg actually chasing a title or is he entering the Royal Rumble or something?

He says he has one last title run in him

So either he actually goes for it, or Brock costs him in the rumble and gets him out of the title picture

Or Brock berries Owens at the rumble, Goldberg wins the rumble, and we have our mania main event

 

[Caderfix]

All-Time Top 5:

Randy Savage
Arn Anderson
The Rock
Hulk Hogan
Steve Austin

Where's Sandow?

 

[Sephzilla]

Goldberg vs AJ Styles as the main event of WrestleMania

I can dig it.

I really hope they don't do an angle where Brock screws over Goldberg.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Talking of which, any word yet from the dirtsheets on if he's broken up with Paige? Still got January's avatar riding on it.

I like that despite all the uncertainty in the world, we will always have the curse of menome

 

[Anth0ny]

Goldberg vs AJ Styles as the main event of WrestleMania

I can dig it.

I really hope they don't do an angle where Brock screws over Goldberg.

It's the least creative way to trigger a rematch between the two

So I'm totally expecting it

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Talking of which, any word yet from the dirtsheets on if he's broken up with Paige? Still got January's avatar riding on it.

Nope, from what I've seen they're still together. Although I don't know if the two are actually engaged or not.

 

[slightconfuse]

Best rock match is at fully loaded 2000 with noob saibot

WORK RATE

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

What if Goldberg getting over was HHH's plan all along to get another 'Mania main-event? HHH beats Owens for the title, beats Lesnar at the next PPV in a title match, Goldberg wins the rumble so they face each other and then...

 

[Kaladin]

Would like to see a Goldberg and Undertaker match in there somewhere just for the sheer difficulty of making a match like that even work.

Fantasy warfare maggle!

 

[Boy Wander]

All-Time Top 5:

Randy Savage
Arn Anderson
The Rock
Hulk Hogan
Steve Austin

5 is such a small number but if I had to pick the 5 wrestler's I've enjoyed most over the years, it would probably be (in no order):

Austin
Rock
Michaels
Jericho
Perfect

Bret really needs to be there but I can't replace any of these 5 with him.

 

[Syder]

Goldberg deserves that fucking belt (and he IS getting it) and I do not care what his naysayers think.

He can draw and he gets the pops. This shit just needs to be simple fun and the dude delivers. It may be limited in scope but that's why a limited run, booked right, can work.

I agree. if Haitch can hold the main title for 70 days then Goldberg certainly can.
Champion Goldberg, no matter how much work he does getting into shape is not really going to be capable of putting on matches that go longer than 10 minutes and keep it entertaining. People are always going to be hyped for him though, people WILL buy RR for Goldberg, people WILL buy Mania for Goldberg.
He ultimately needs to put someone over though. Brock, Taker, Goldberg, Haitch and eventually Cena really need to put some of these young wrestlers the hardcore fans are hyped about over and make them look like a new generation. If Joe and Nakamura aren't up by RR then that is the time to do it. Can you imagine the hype for a RR where you could potentially see Shinsuke, Joe, Goldberg, Styles, KO, Zayn, Rollins, etc. in the ring at the same time?

Instead it'll be Big Show & Kane throwing all your favourites out early.

Spoiler

I still think Goldberg in the Rumble is just to get eyes on the PPV and he'll rematch Brock at Mania.

 

[SallyIsNow]

I'm not sure what my top 5 looks like but Austin is definitely number 1. The dude had EVERYTHING. Perfect look, god tier promo, a real wrassler' not that fake imaginary athletics shit, and was in the greatest match ever contested in that 20 by 20. Also never did the J.O.B. to that Barney looking jabronie tanking the company for the last 10 years.

 

[Man God]

He beats AJ first and replaces the universal title with the big gold belt first.

 

[Tagyhag]

Speaking of Haitch, where the FUCK has he been?

 

[slightconfuse]

Speaking of Haitch, where the FUCK has he been?

Waiting for football season to be over