Now that Nintendo has an 8th-gen+ (8.5th gen?) performance level console, do you expect they will scale up their game budgets to match it?

Will Nintendo scale up their production budgets for Switch 2 games to justify the new prices?

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Can you imagine Nintendo making games at the scale of Cyberpunk 2077, re: production quality and sheer amount of assets, textures, geometry, writing and voice acting, etc.?

They're about to release a console with exactly that game in a quick 3rd party port that looks to already outshine its 8th gen console builds, including the DLC that those consoles couldn't even handle. And yet Nintendo seems very conservative and cost-conscious as a dev shop. Mario Kart World might be the best (only?) indication that they're at least trying to scale up their production levels somewhat to match the new hardware, right? Bonanza might be doing some neat technical stuff that Switch 1 definitely couldn't do, but its assets (production levels) still look like their working with the same budgets and team size that funded and arted Mario Odyssey.

Will Nintendo go big now that they finally have hardware that can keep up, or will they keep making Switch 1 sized games just with better performance?
 
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>inb4 "art direction over graphics" posts even though Donkey Kong Bananza looks artistically dull and boring
The worst part of a genuinely good looking (gameplay wise) title.
 
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Probably not? You can have better graphics w/o jumping up your budgets. You can also have a system capable of more photo-realism w/o changing your general designs which don't lean that way and lend themselves well to just scaling up gracefully with better hardware.

In the end they are a Japanese dev company, they pay their devs jack shit and make them work insane hours lol
 
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No, Nintendo will not fall into the same trap as Sony, with Spider-Man 2. Ballooning budgets do not make good games. Look at Spider-Man 2 and Concord.

You think adding to the budget will increase the quality of the game.

That is a huge incorrect assumption and the reason the poll is wrong. They are both false choices.

Meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two imposters just the same. How much did Metaphor Refantasio cost to develop? Think of your favorite game ever, and now imagine how you would have probably never played if it you considered budget as your primary metric for quality.
 
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I think Nintendo maintained an average of 1 game per month for Switch. You won't see that if they move to production scales like Cyberpunk, case in point, CD project Red hasn't released a new game in 5 years.

I rather they keep that pace.
 
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they dont make realimistic garphics buuuuut they make real gameplay with phyisics annnnd destrucible like totk or donkey kong
 
There is no reason for them to do that. Look at Metroid Prime 4. The game looks so outdated. Looks better than sw1 version. But dated and old, the animation looks ancient. Arrogant Nintendo is also lazy Nintendo.
 
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I don't see why they would. If they just continue at Switch-level of visuals and instead use the performance overhead to improve image quality and frame rate, I think plenty of people would be perfectly happy, myself included.
 
I don't see why they'd change their winning formula.
They'll continue making games with relatively modest budgets/production values that stand out (usually) through their art direction and will sell more than most AAA games at full price while being more profitable because they didn't cost 300 million to make.


The next Monolith game will look amazing though.
 
Nintendo needs to get on with the times:

1. Games needs to ship earlier. You can fix bugs as you go along. Cyberpunk 2077 showed that buggy games will eventually be good.

2. Games need microtransactions. Gacha games show that gamers like to pay many times, not just once.

3. Games need to be more woke and DEI. Sony and Xbox are doing it, so Nintendo needs to cater for the sensibilities of ethnic and sexual minorities too.
 
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I don't see why they'd change their winning formula.
They'll continue making games with relatively modest budgets/production values that stand out (usually) through their art direction and will sell more than most AAA games at full price while being more profitable because they didn't cost 300 million to make.


The next Monolith game will look amazing though.
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Nintendo has the better formula when it comes to first party games… Sony and Microsoft are in the graphic race and is worse for then with every new gen… On top of that Nintendo sell more first party games than the competition combined with more margin of profit… and some people here thinks that Nintendo is wrong or need to change their route 😂
 
Nintendo is not tight-fisted for games that need the budget to be fun (Metroid, Zelda, Xenoblade). But if the last few years haven't taught you that inflating budgets doesn't lead anywhere, you need to pay more attention. First of all, Nintendo is wise in the sense that a game's budget should be scaled to its potential sales. Each game, when looked at separately, just needs to be profittable.
 
Ritsumei2020 said:
Nintendo needs to get on with the times:

1. Games needs to ship earlier. You can fix bugs as you go along. Cyberpunk 2077 showed that buggy games will eventually be good.

2. Games need microtransactions. Gacha games show that gamers like to pay many times, not just once.

3. Games need to be more woke and DEI. Sony and Xbox are doing it, so Nintendo needs to cater for the sensibilities of ethnic and sexual minorities too.
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>inb4 "art direction over graphics" posts even though Donkey Kong Bananza looks artistically dull and boring
The worst part of a genuinely good looking (gameplay wise) title.
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I gotta admit I hate the game artistically, I hope they don't abuse of stuff like that for the future...
 
I'll get the super switch day one assuming I can. I completed more games on switch than any other console. So I'm not a hater. But absolutely not. There is no way in hell. Your not getting the Last of Us from them. Your not getting God of war. And thank fucking God. We have enough of that stuff.
 
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It does look old as fuck. Animation wise, graphics wise. Look at the fucking intro with text.
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When it comes to animation even Indiana Jones have some really bad animation… Prime 4 looks beautiful and i have an 4080 on my PC… And the intro with text is a identity seal for the Metroid franchise. The game looks amazing even for today standards.
 
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LordOcidax said:
Nintendo has the better formula when it comes to first party games… Sony and Microsoft are in the graphic race and is worse for then with every new gen… On top of that Nintendo sell more first party games than the competition combined with more margin of profit… and some people here thinks that Nintendo is wrong or need to change their route 😂
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Yeah IMO Sony in particular screwed themselves by focusing too much on graphics and production values. Now it's a big part of what people expect from their games and they'll be met with backlash if they don't deliver.

Nintendo stopped focusing on graphics a long time ago and so their fans don't have these crazy expectations about how their games should look like.
It's like FromSoftware, they don't focus on cutting edge visuals so when a game like Elden Ring came out no one (figuratively speaking) gave a shit about the graphics not being super high end, or about there being recycled assets and animations from previous games.
 
Power, i heard, is not all about need of graphic, physic also have good explorable if the system is solid. So, if they can make something with scale of ToTK features, i'm sure they can do more in them. But again, i'm not system designer, only heard from some of them.
 
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When it comes to animation even Indiana Jones have some really bad animation… Prime 4 looks beautiful and i have an 4080 on my PC… And the intro with text is a identity seal for the Metroid franchise. The game looks amazing even for today standards.
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Indiana Jones is not a reference of great animation. What does your 4080 on your PC have to do with Metroid Primer 4 that doesn't any make sense.
The intro with text... I know that is the old identity lame excuse that Nintendo has been given for all their games since forever. I guess link still doesnt talk in Zelda games because of whatever reason.
Metroid Pirme 4 looks anciente for a FPV, you can tell right away. Enemies are just standing there, move super slow, the animations are cartoony and boring. The boss battle that was shown, looks boring and not exciting at all.
 
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In Diana jones is not a reference for state of the art animation.

Indiana Jones is not a reference of great animation. What does your 4080 on your PC have to do with Metroid Primer 4 that doesn't any make sense.
The intro with text... I know that is the old identity lame excuse that Nintendo has been given for all their games since forever. I guess link still doesnt talk in Zelda games because of whatever reason.
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I am going to assume that you only know the Metroid franchise and the Zelda Franchise from Nintendo and never had a Nintendo console only by reading this 😂.
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I don't get the impression that all Nintendo games are quite exactly cheap to make.

They completely scrapped a version of Metroid Prime 4 that was in active development for a few years and proceeded to hire several industry vets to work on what was ultimately revealed.

BotW was rumored to have cost $120m. TotK is an even larger game than that... we're not exactly talking GTA VI money, but it seems like they're willing to invest when they have confidence that they'll get a return.
 
The answer is no, and in this and other threads you can see why they won't. I wouldn't, either.

Whoever believes any first-party Nintendo game will have production values as Infinity Nikki or Wuthering Waves is delusional and belongs in Narnia.
 
LordOcidax said:
I am going to assume that you only know the Metroid franchise and the Zelda Franchise from Nintendo and never had a Nintendo console only by reading this 😂.
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I had NES, SNES, N64, NGC. big fan of Nintendo when I was a Kid and a teenager.
I have played Nintendo games, here and there. I even had a Switch with Mario and Breath of the Wild. and as far as i know Link doesn't talk. And still MP4 looks old and outdated.
 
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Nintendo is a protected company, so many crazy things with Nintendo that sucked but still succeeded (game cube no dvd, Wii's friend codes etc.) they're going to do the switch thing again and it just happens to be with more powerful graphics.
 
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