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[TheStruggler]

I think August will go to the PS4. The Batman bundle is still selling well. I don't see Gear Ultimate doing much to push Xbox One if people like me are involved. I won't buy it as I have the old titles on 360 and most through GwG so I can wait until they are backwards compatible.
September will got PS4 as well with Destiny and more importantly Metal Gear Solid V.

October will be a toss up. Halo at the very end of the month might stop it from topping the hardware charts. Uncharted Collection might get a bundle as well. It depends on what they plan to show and what rebalances they have made.

November is a toss up but leaning Xbox. Halo will have a bigger impact for November and a Tomb Raider bundle or a Fallout bundle but Sony could do well with a COD bundle, a Assassin's Creed Syndicate bundle and/or Battlefront bundle. If a price cut happens as well there will be competition that month.

If sony wants big sales during the holidays, suffer a small price cut of either 50-100 and have bundled or limited consoles for cod, battlefront or assassins and have the price cut go until January and bump it back up much like what xbox did last holiday

 

[wapplew]

I think after Holiday, Xbox will reclaim best selling next gen console in US market and stay that way for the rest of the gen.

 

[Guymelef]

I think after Holiday, Xbox will reclaim best selling next gen console in US market and stay that way for the rest of the gen.

Yep, just like after past holidays.

 

[Lucreto]

If sony wants big sales during the holidays, suffer a small price cut of either 50-100 and have bundled or limited consoles for cod, battlefront or assassins and have the price cut go until January and bump it back up much like what xbox did last holiday

That actually hurt the Xbox more in January, so much so the price went back down less than 2 weeks later.

 

[loki 16]

Surprise by lego. PS4 continues to dominate.

 

[ZSaberLink]

If MS can get the XB1 under $200 (including whatever bundled items are worth it to me to make it more than that in total price; FWIW, don't need a new TV, so while that $500 bundle this week was tempting, I couldn't justify it.), and RotTR only runs on DX12 (i.e. not my PC), and RARE makes a new Perfect Dark better than PD0 (if still not as good as PD1), ..., eh, it's going to take a lot for me to buy into a new-gen console this time around. :lol

I thought you owned a Wii U though?

 

[ArchedThunder]

I think after Holiday, Xbox will reclaim best selling next gen console in US market and stay that way for the rest of the gen.

Is this a meme or joke that I don't recognize?

 

[Deleted member 471617]

I have said this before and I'll say it again, even if Microsoft drops the Xbox One console to $300 for the holiday season, Sony can easily match that without dropping the price by having a few different bundles. Here's the bundles I would do and think they should do -

1 - Call of Duty: Black Ops III
- 1000GB/1TB hard drive, themed console, revised version, disc based game included

2 - Star Wars: Battlefront
- 1000GB/1TB hard drive, themed console, revised version, disc based game included

3 - Exclusives bundle
- 1000GB/1TB hard drive, revised console black matte, five games included all via digital download and yes, all five would be separate meaning that each game has it's own unique code so those who may want to sell the codes can do so...Sony most likely wouldn't like this but it doesn't matter simply because it's all about getting the console in the consumer's home and increasing the user install base
- five exclusives would be God of War III Remastered, Infamous: Second Son, Knack, Killzone: Shadow Fall and The Order: 1886
- even at $10 each, the 500GB hard drive difference has to be at least worth $50 so there's your $100 price drop without there being an actual price drop
- this bundle is mainly for those who don't want a "themed" console

That would rival Microsoft dropping Xbox One to $300 for the holidays in my opinion. Plus, it appears that Microsoft only holiday bundle is Halo 5 which is $500. Their other bundles are Madden, Gears and Forza. They will be a distant memory by the time November gets here.

I do think that Halo 5 will sell but I also think that Rise of the Tomb Raider is going to bomb in sales regardless of review and ratings. It's simply in a bad spot and since the PS4 user install base is around 10m more than Microsoft and the franchise is seen as a "PlayStation" franchise, I think that PS4 pre-orders will outsell the Xbox One version.

Microsoft should have either A) paid for the game to be a full exclusive or console exclusive....or....B) paid for Fallout 4 to be a one year timed exclusive which quite honestly would have been a far better move since that's seen as an Xbox "franchise". Add in MOD support at launch and yeah, it's going to crush Rise of the Tomb Raider.

As for the present time, I knew PS4 was going to win July simply because Xbox One had nothing and while there was also nothing on PS4, Batman bundle came out on June 23rd so im sure a lot of people picked it up in July.

I think August goes to Xbox One due to Gears, Madden bundle, Best Buy HDTV offer and Rare Replay. September and October goes to PS4. November and December goes to Xbox One. Just my prediction and opinion though.

 

[donny2112]

I thought you owned a Wii U though?

It was a Christmas gift. If it were up to me to buy it, I might've bit on that refurbished one for $200, though.

 

[Chobel]

@cream: How many of XBO sales were from the 1TB SKU?

 

[C4Lukins]

I have said this before and I'll say it again, even if Microsoft drops the Xbox One console to $300 for the holiday season, Sony can easily match that without dropping the price by having a few different bundles. Here's the bundles I would do and think they should do -

1 - Call of Duty: Black Ops III
- 1000GB/1TB hard drive, themed console, revised version, disc based game included

2 - Star Wars: Battlefront
- 1000GB/1TB hard drive, themed console, revised version, disc based game included

3 - Exclusives bundle
- 1000GB/1TB hard drive, revised console black matte, five games included all via digital download and yes, all five would be separate meaning that each game has it's own unique code so those who may want to sell the codes can do so...Sony most likely wouldn't like this but it doesn't matter simply because it's all about getting the console in the consumer's home and increasing the user install base
- five exclusives would be God of War III Remastered, Infamous: Second Son, Knack, Killzone: Shadow Fall and The Order: 1886
- even at $10 each, the 500GB hard drive difference has to be at least worth $50 so there's your $100 price drop without there being an actual price drop
- this bundle is mainly for those who don't want a "themed" console

That would rival Microsoft dropping Xbox One to $300 for the holidays in my opinion. Plus, it appears that Microsoft only holiday bundle is Halo 5 which is $500. Their other bundles are Madden, Gears and Forza. They will be a distant memory by the time November gets here.

I do think that Halo 5 will sell but I also think that Rise of the Tomb Raider is going to bomb in sales regardless of review and ratings. It's simply in a bad spot and since the PS4 user install base is around 10m more than Microsoft and the franchise is seen as a "PlayStation" franchise, I think that PS4 pre-orders will outsell the Xbox One version.

Microsoft should have either A) paid for the game to be a full exclusive or console exclusive....or....B) paid for Fallout 4 to be a one year timed exclusive which quite honestly would have been a far better move since that's seen as an Xbox "franchise". Add in MOD support at launch and yeah, it's going to crush Rise of the Tomb Raider.

As for the present time, I knew PS4 was going to win July simply because Xbox One had nothing and while there was also nothing on PS4, Batman bundle came out on June 23rd so im sure a lot of people picked it up in July.

I think August goes to Xbox One due to Gears, Madden bundle, Best Buy HDTV offer and Rare Replay. September and October goes to PS4. November and December goes to Xbox One. Just my prediction and opinion though.

So Sony will win in the US based on exclusive bundles containing games that exist on their competitors system? So Halo, Gears, Forza, Fallout4 exclusive content, Tomb Raider, COD, Destiny, Battlefront, will lose to marketing bundles of Battlefront, Destiny, and COD?

 

[StrongBlackVine]

It probably can't, because the fan base that stuck with it are going to buy the digital upgrade for 40USD. The only people buying the physical edition (the only one counted for NPDs) are people that haven't played Destiny yet at all, of the ones you stopped playing Vanilla Destiny and are jumping back in for all the changes, but need all the DLC.

For people that don't own the 2 DLCs it is cheaper to just buy the Legendary edition next month.

 

[Aceofspades]

Gap continues to widen. PS4 is doing the work for Sony.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Very possible the One Beats PS4 this holiday but some act like the PS4 either won't sell or won't have a plan going into the holiday.

PS4 has options. 2 BIG bundles and if they wanted they could drop the price. I don't think they will though. Just have a bundle with COD and battlefront and maybe toss in another game for the holiday. Sony is more interested in their bottom line PS4 will sell well this holiday.

Next year I agree. If Uncharted, SFV and Ratchet launch early next year thats a tough set of games to go against. Also we could potentially see Horizon and FF15 next year as well.

And likely Gran Turismo 7. SFV, Uncharted 4, FFXV and GT7 are all PS4 system sellers. Horizon Zero Dawn could be a killer app too. TLG probably isn't, but it's a nice piece too. Dreams is a wild card.

 

[Aeqvitas]

So Sony will win in the US based on exclusive bundles containing games that exist on their competitors system? So Halo, Gears, Forza, Fallout4 exclusive content, Tomb Raider, COD, Destiny, Battlefront, will lose to marketing bundles of Battlefront, Destiny, and COD?

Yes, like last fall, where Sony had a marketing Bunduru with GTA V, one of the top selling titles of all time.

On a serious note, I doubt that Destiny will have the same pull it did last year in pushing new consoles, I am pretty sure most people who were waiting for a new console to play Destiny already upgraded. MGS will push more consoles for Sony for sure, but I don't think that franchise is as strong in the US so I don't think it will do anywhere near as good as Destiny did last year. I think Battlefront will push new consoles relatively evenly. I also don't think droves of XB CoD players will jump ship mid console cycle just because PS4 is featured prominently on adds, but hey, maybe the month early DLC is a bigger draw than anyone thought.

 

[Amir0x]

Surprised XBO didn't capture July to be honest, thought with some of the deals going around it would have got it.

Gonna be a fun holiday season I bet... so...many...deals

 

[DR2K]

I'll buy an X1 if they give me all their holiday exclusives in one bundle for Black Friday and 1 year of Xbox live and a free controller just for shits and giggles. Sony is just going to sit on their lead with some mediocre bundles.

 

[madstarr12]

Wow at the power of Lego. God of War semi-bomba, but i guess since much wasnt changed in the game, it wasn't very costly. And no Squids on the charts is sad. Wonder if it made it to a top ten of a non-combined format.

 

[C4Lukins]

Yes, like last fall, where Sony had a marketing Bunduru with GTA V, one of the top selling titles of all time.

On a serious note, I doubt that Destiny will have the same pull it did last year in pushing new consoles, I am pretty sure most people who were waiting for a new console to play Destiny already upgraded. MGS will push more consoles for Sony for sure, but I don't think that franchise is as strong in the US so I don't think it will do anywhere near as good as Destiny did last year. I think Battlefront will push new consoles relatively evenly. I also don't think droves of XB CoD players will jump ship mid console cycle just because PS4 is featured prominently on adds, but hey, maybe the month early DLC is a bigger draw than anyone thought.

The hype for the Destiny bundle as far as pushing the PS4 is funny. No signifigant amount off people were waiting for the Destiny expansion before purchasing a PS4.

That is not to dismiss the success of Destiny and how great of an impact the Destiny marketing deal has benefited Sony.

But nobody is sitting back waiting to purchase a PS4 basedon expanded content for a game they have not yet played. It is an odd choice IMO.

 

[Jigorath]

GOW3 for $40 was a cashgrab. Not surprised it did poorly. I could go buy the whole 5 game collection on PS3 for like 20 bucks. Why would I buy this?

Splatoon's sales are really slowing down in the US which is the opposite of Japan. It seems to be resonating a lot stronger over in the land of the rising sun. I wonder if the August update will kickstart sales.

PS4 leads again? That ain't a surprise.

Boring NPD.

 

[AgeEighty]

I've got Disgaea 5, Dragon Quest Heroes, Rock Band 4, and Final Fantasy XIV to keep me company on PS4 over the next several months, so as far as I'm concerned, that console is all aces for me. No reason at all for me to buy an Xbox One.

And I've got Super Mario Maker coming as well, as well as a backlog of stuff for PS3 and Wii to catch up on.

 

[bebop242]

I have said this before and I'll say it again, even if Microsoft drops the Xbox One console to $300 for the holiday season, Sony can easily match that without dropping the price by having a few different bundles. Here's the bundles I would do and think they should do -

1 - Call of Duty: Black Ops III
- 1000GB/1TB hard drive, themed console, revised version, disc based game included

2 - Star Wars: Battlefront
- 1000GB/1TB hard drive, themed console, revised version, disc based game included

3 - Exclusives bundle
- 1000GB/1TB hard drive, revised console black matte, five games included all via digital download and yes, all five would be separate meaning that each game has it's own unique code so those who may want to sell the codes can do so...Sony most likely wouldn't like this but it doesn't matter simply because it's all about getting the console in the consumer's home and increasing the user install base
- five exclusives would be God of War III Remastered, Infamous: Second Son, Knack, Killzone: Shadow Fall and The Order: 1886
- even at $10 each, the 500GB hard drive difference has to be at least worth $50 so there's your $100 price drop without there being an actual price drop
- this bundle is mainly for those who don't want a "themed" console

That would rival Microsoft dropping Xbox One to $300 for the holidays in my opinion. Plus, it appears that Microsoft only holiday bundle is Halo 5 which is $500. Their other bundles are Madden, Gears and Forza. They will be a distant memory by the time November gets here.

I do think that Halo 5 will sell but I also think that Rise of the Tomb Raider is going to bomb in sales regardless of review and ratings. It's simply in a bad spot and since the PS4 user install base is around 10m more than Microsoft and the franchise is seen as a "PlayStation" franchise, I think that PS4 pre-orders will outsell the Xbox One version.

Microsoft should have either A) paid for the game to be a full exclusive or console exclusive....or....B) paid for Fallout 4 to be a one year timed exclusive which quite honestly would have been a far better move since that's seen as an Xbox "franchise". Add in MOD support at launch and yeah, it's going to crush Rise of the Tomb Raider.

As for the present time, I knew PS4 was going to win July simply because Xbox One had nothing and while there was also nothing on PS4, Batman bundle came out on June 23rd so im sure a lot of people picked it up in July.

I think August goes to Xbox One due to Gears, Madden bundle, Best Buy HDTV offer and Rare Replay. September and October goes to PS4. November and December goes to Xbox One. Just my prediction and opinion though.

Never underestimate the consumer's desire to pay the lowest price on the shelf. A $300 Xbox One beats a $400 PS4 bundle every holiday, every time.

 

[SupperCrunch]

It seems like I placed optimism on the wrong month; I overpredicted both the XB1 and PS4 by 30K units, which was exactly the revision I made after noticing optimism winning out in June! Ah well...

That's what I'm trying to say. Assuming no surprises come till October (PS4 Price-drop, XB1 giveaway combo pack, etc.)

Will MS have to compete with a 1 million gap in October? (Given Destiny Bundle and MGSV favor for PS4 in September)

Honestly, I don't see a way that the gap will be greater than 1 million units by the end of October. This month, the gap was less than 30K, bringing the gap to ~800K. Next month, I can see sales being very close, with there being a significant chance that the Xbox One takes August. Compared to the PS4, the XB1 has two major bundles releasing, and has already had a significant deal at Best Buy. These factors weren't at play in July, and the gap was small anyways. At most, the gap in August will probably be 30K in favor of PS4 again.

In September, the PS4 will most likely take the month, but it won't by the numbers we saw last September. Only the TTK bundle is being released in North America, and it isn't tracking as well as the original Destiny bundle (which is to be expected, considering its celebrating an expansion). Microsoft is also releasing the premium Forza bundle, which will not move too many units, but should make some impact nonetheless. The gap will probably stay under 100K that month.

October will be Halo month. MS will advertise it more than Titanfall, and it will push more consoles throughout the month, and not necessarily just at the end of the month. On top of this, their LE bundle will probably move a fair few units. This will most likely result in the Xbox One winning that month (unless there's a significant price cut for the PS4 that month).

All things considered, I think the maximum gap that could be reached before November is ~950K, and that's if everything goes well for PS4 realistically. It probably will end up less than that, which hopefully will allow better deals for everyone come the holidays.

 

[Lime_In_Da_Coconut]

I feel people are greatly underestimating the effect having timed DLC/advertising for Battlefront and CoD will have for Sony this fall.

 

[Hydrargyrus]

All the hollidays season (even including October) depends on what Sony is going to do.

If they are going to make a price cut, Sony is going to win all the months easily. If not, they will probably will be very near in sales. A lot more than the last year.
The COD, Battlefront and Asscreed bundles are going to sell tons (and the Destiny bundles too).


Btw, congrats Sony for another month!

 

[Y0j1mb0]

I'll buy an X1 if they give me all their holiday exclusives in one bundle for Black Friday and 1 year of Xbox live and a free controller just for shits and giggles.

You want a foot massage to go along with that too?

 

[OléGunner]

So Sony will win in the US based on exclusive bundles containing games that exist on their competitors system? So Halo, Gears, Forza, Fallout4 exclusive content, Tomb Raider, COD, Destiny, Battlefront, will lose to marketing bundles of Battlefront, Destiny, and COD?

It's not an outrageous thought thought.

I see Halo as the massive seller for Xbone on that list, the other exclusive games might not even chart due to all the third party games out there during Oct-Dec (though still selling well in the case of TR and Forza)

All the hollidays season (even including October) depends on what Sony is going to do.

If they are going to make a price cut, Sony is going to win all the months easily. If not, they will probably will be very near in sales. A lot more than the last year.
The COD, Battlefront and Asscreed bundles are going to sell tons (and the Destiny bundles too).

I see the PS4 No 1 momentum carrying through until November when Xbone may take that month. Then its back to the status quo.

Btw, congrats Sony for another month!

Yup, it all depends on whether Sony go really aggressive with bundles. If they offer COD and Battlefront at $350 then they'll likely take the remaining months.

I have a feeling Star Wars Battlefront will be the best selling NPD game this year too and Sony will push that game as an exclusive to the masses out there.

 

[Nightengale]

So Sony will win in the US based on exclusive bundles containing games that exist on their competitors system? So Halo, Gears, Forza, Fallout4 exclusive content, Tomb Raider, COD, Destiny, Battlefront, will lose to marketing bundles of Battlefront, Destiny, and COD?

I don’t like to get into the argument of what wins what and what matters more than what, but the overall picture of Xbox’s line-up compared to PS4’s line-up is more nuanced than just what you laid down.

Xbox has a stronger fall line-up for the mainstream audience, with Halo & Tomb Raider being the headlining games. But when it comes to Gears and Forza, I think it’s debatable that on Sony’s exclusives side, they have enough of their own to match it pound-for-pound. Uncharted Collection is more than a match for Gears Ultimate, and considering a large percentage of PS4 owners never owned a PS3, it is an appealing package. Forza is a big game, but racing sims in US isn’t a terribly huge market, and it’s got a weaker appeal in the US market compared to the European regions. However, PS4’s other “exclusives” are pretty niche too (Until Dawn, Tearaway, Disgaea 5, Tales of Zestiria, DQ Heroes, SAO) and imo the lot of them combined, more than matches the draw of Forza.

So, my scenario assumes that the ‘advantages’ of Gears/Forza are matched by Uncharted + every other niche exclusive. That puts only Halo 5 and Tomb Raider as the big anchors for Xbox’s fall vs Sony’s.

And yes, those 2 games are huge. But that’s where Sony’s CoD/Battlefront/AssCreed/Destiny marketing & the inclination of MGSV on the Playstation side over the Xbox side come into play. IF, and I say IF, executed well, then I could imagine a scenario where the advantage of 2 huge exclusives, could be matched by 4 huge multiplat marketing deals + 1 big game that’s historically leaning more to the Playstation side over the Xbox side. (MGS)

I don’t think Sony will win the holidays. But I do think they have the resources, even without Uncharted 4/SFV/Ratchet & Clank this holiday season, to match Xbox's sales, or at least, not lose anywhere close to how badly they got #rekt last November.

Honestly, it’s all on the execution. For example, I think Sony largely wasted their GTAV bundle marketing last year by making it super limited, only introducing it on BF, when they should’ve introduced it as early as possible. Whereas MS’s bundle strategy last year, with 2 AssCreed games bundled together, launching as early into the holiday as possible with as much stock as they could ship was excellent.

 

[hodayathink]

So Sony will win in the US based on exclusive bundles containing games that exist on their competitors system? So Halo, Gears, Forza, Fallout4 exclusive content, Tomb Raider, COD, Destiny, Battlefront, will lose to marketing bundles of Battlefront, Destiny, and COD?

They sold something around 300K systems launch month with last year's Destiny bundle, and that wasn't an exclusive game. As a matter of fact, IIRC Microsoft did a promo during launch week where you could pick one free game (and that included Destiny), and Sony still beat them handily that month. A special edition Battlefield console will sell at least that much, and probably more. A COD branded console probably does big numbers as well, especially if it comes in a color scheme that hasn't been released yet.

 

[EGM1966]

Holiday season and Black Friday are going to be interesting.

On paper Xbox has a shot of taking lead in U.S. going by last year and with Halo 5. This should spur MS to make a huge play for that.

On paper Sony retains better demand/price point momentum and will have a decent buffer by the time MS play begins with Halo. They also have guide of last year to see how big a result MS can generate if they're not aggressive enough with their own bundles and pricing.

I think Sony can hold MS off although but it'll require an effect as strong as MS I suspect.

Going to be interesting to see if one outfoxes the other or if it's close due to matching bundles/deals.

Black Friday is going to be killer for deals though this year. Potential record breaker?

 

[pantsonhead]

So, noobie question, but what does NPD mean?

 

[Nightengale]

They sold something around 300K systems launch month with last year's Destiny bundle, and that wasn't an exclusive game. As a matter of fact, IIRC Microsoft did a promo during launch week where you could pick one free game (and that included Destiny), and Sony still beat them handily that month. Do not underestimate a branded bundle of a hyped game.

Advanced Warfare bundle did around 200k for Xbox last year, if I remember correctly. And that was despite the fact there were 2 cheaper bundles with "better" value.

Branded big name bundles sell, even with a premium. That's reality.

 

[Chobel]

I don’t like to get into the argument of what wins what and what matters more than what, but the overall picture of Xbox’s line-up compared to PS4’s line-up is more nuanced than just what you laid down.

Xbox has a stronger fall line-up for the mainstream audience, with Halo & Tomb Raider being the headlining games. But when it comes to Gears and Forza, I think it’s debatable that on Sony’s exclusives side, they have enough of their own to match it pound-for-pound. Uncharted Collection is more than a match for Gears Ultimate, and considering a large percentage of PS4 owners never owned a PS3, it is an appealing package. Forza is a big game, but racing sims in US isn’t a terribly huge market, and it’s got a weaker appeal in the US market compared to the European regions. However, PS4’s other “exclusives” are pretty niche too (Until Dawn, Tearaway, Disgaea 5, Tales of Zestiria, DQ Heroes, SAO) and imo the lot of them combined, more than matches the draw of Forza.

So, my scenario assumes that the ‘advantages’ of Gears/Forza are matched by Uncharted + every other niche exclusive. That puts only Halo 5 and Tomb Raider as the big anchors for Xbox’s fall vs Sony’s.

And yes, those 2 games are huge. But that’s where Sony’s CoD/Battlefront/AssCreed/Destiny marketing & the inclination of MGSV on the Playstation side over the Xbox side come into play. IF, and I say IF, executed well, then I could imagine a scenario where the advantage of 2 huge exclusives, could be matched by 4 huge multiplat marketing deals + 1 big game that’s historically leaning more to the Playstation side over the Xbox side. (MGS)

I don’t think Sony will win the holidays. But I do think they have the resources, even without Uncharted 4/SFV/Ratchet & Clank this holiday season, to match Xbox's sales, or at least, not lose anywhere close to how badly they got #rekt last November.

Honestly, it’s all on the execution. For example, I think Sony largely wasted their GTAV bundle marketing last year by making it super limited, only introducing it on BF, when they should’ve introduced it as early as possible. Whereas MS’s bundle strategy last year, with 2 AssCreed games bundled together, launching as early into the holiday as possible with as much stock as they could ship was excellent.

You may as well add Tomb Raider to Forza and Gears group, Tomb Raider is not that popular in US.

 

[SMOK3Y]

Legacy consoles are doing the work on kids' titles, like every console generation ever.

Yup my kid always gets the hand me down 😊

 

[Nightengale]

You may as well add Tomb Raider to Forza and Gears group, Tomb Raider is not that popular in US.

MS will aggressively push it, so I'm giving it the benefit of some doubt. Plus presumed Lara Croft Cried and Rises Bundle.

With Forza, we've gotten enough Forza games in the past year to know that 6 won't change the market in any way.

 

[OléGunner]

Yup my kid always gets the hand me down 😊

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[Chobel]

MS will aggressively push it, so I'm giving it the benefit of some doubt. Plus presumed Lara Croft Cried and Rises Bundle.

With Forza, we've gotten enough Forza games in the past year to know that 6 won't change the market in any way.

No matter how much MS is gonna push it, I doubt that's gonna change TR popularity in US that much especially when considering xbox demographic. So yeah I still don't think the game standalone will push sales significantly.

Now bundling it, yeah that will push sales, but it's no different than bundling a big multipat games. Heck bundling some multipat games makes more sense than TR2 (Fallout 4).

 

[Diprosalic]

So, noobie question, but what does NPD mean?

just means NPD, was "National Purchase Diary" once.

 

[lord_lad]

I think after Holiday, Xbox will reclaim best selling next gen console in US market and stay that way for the rest of the gen.

care to elaborate why? Suddenly, Sony stopped producing games, 3rd party start dropping PS4 support, naughty dog suddenly disbanded and sony actually increased the price of PS4 after the holiday?

I sincerely don't understand what some people were thinking. Yes, the Xbox is making big stride this year. So suddenly it's assumed that Sony just gave up and says: "Damn!! Halo is coming to Xbox this holiday. Let's just pack our bags and leave the video game industry. We're done."

But if it makes you happier, sure why not?

Ned Stark: "A mad man sees what he sees."

 

[OléGunner]

No matter how much MS is gonna push it, I doubt that's gonna change TR popularity in US that much especially when considering xbox demographic. So yeah I still don't think the game standalone will push sales significantly.

Now bundling it, yeah that will push sales, but it's no different than bundling a big multipat games. Heck bundling some multipat games makes more sense than TR2 (Fallout 4).

Yeah TR always been mainly a big European franchise.

I'm very interested to see how well it does especially in the UK and mainland Europe

Is Fallout 4 getting an Xbone bunduru? That would do magnificently well for Microsoft.

care to elaborate why? Suddenly, Sony stopped producing games, 3rd party start dropping PS4 support, naughty dog suddenly disbanded and sony actually increased the price of PS4 after the holiday?

I sincerely don't understand what some people were thinking. Yes, the Xbox is making big stride this year. So suddenly it's assumed that Sony just gave up and says: "Damn!! Halo is coming to Xbox this holiday. Let's just pack our bags and leave the video game industry. We're done."

But if it makes you happier, sure why not?

Ned Stark: "A mad man sees what he sees."

Let a man dream brother

 

[Mpl90]

I hope creamsugar delights us with some older games' LTD, since this month seems quite boring otherwise.

More specifically, years ago, creamsugar made this posts for both Vita and 3DS

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=39954250&highlight=#post39954250

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=39985160&highlight=#post39985160

I'd like to see an updated one (maybe Wii U as well, + Bayonetta 2's updated LTD as a bonus )

 

[Chobel]

wapplew is mostly joking guys.

 

[driver116]

That's what I'm trying to say. Assuming no surprises come till October (PS4 Price-drop, XB1 giveaway combo pack, etc.)

Will MS have to compete with a 1 million gap in October? (Given Destiny Bundle and MGSV favor for PS4 in September)

I'm leaning towards:

PS4 pricedrop at PGW = PS4 wins holidays
No PS4 pricedrop at PGW = XB1 wins holidays

 

[dead monkey uk]

Yeah TR always been mainly a big European franchise.

I'm very interested to see how well it does especially in the UK and mainland Europe

Is Fallout 4 getting an Xbone bunduru? That would do magnificently well for Microsoft.


Let a man dream brother

TR will have big sales in the UK, will be interesting with it releasing on national Fallout 4 day. In mainland europe sales will bomb hard, there are just not enough Xbox Ones to drive sales. I could see TR selling more on 360 in mainland Europe.

I think I said it in this thread, Microsoft should release a vault themed Fallout 4 Bundle, it would be massive.

 

[Rymuth]

Morning, GAF. Finally caught up.

So the LTd gap is now over 800k. I imagined it'd be at 780k. Pretty good result.

verrrrrrry verrryrryryryryry interesting

verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry

What? What are you implying?

wapplew is mostly joking guys.

How can you be so sure?

 

[StealthGoblin]

I'm leaning towards:

PS4 pricedrop at PGW = PS4 wins holidays
No PS4 pricedrop at PGW = XB1 wins holidays

Worldwide? That second option has no chance in happening. Remember those huge bundles, free games and price cuts Microsoft did last year? Sony did almost nothing notable and in bulk and still massively outsold Xbox.

NPD, yeah I would agree. Depends if Sony really give a damn about remaining on top there. If they don't drop the price this year, it'll happen next year and they could possibly go back on top as a result of that.

 

[Chobel]

Morning, GAF. Finally caught up.

So the LTd gap is now over 800k. I imagined it'd be at 780k. Pretty good result.



What? What are you implying?

How can you be so sure?

Because usually that's what they do. I mean you should have known by now.

 

[driver116]

Worldwide? That second option has no chance in happening. Remember those huge bundles, free games and price cuts Microsoft did last year? Sony did almost nothing notable and in bulk and still massively outsold Xbox.

NPD, yeah I would agree. Depends if Sony really give a damn about remaining on top there. If they don't drop the price this year, it'll happen next year and they could possibly go back on top as a result of that.

It's the NPD thread, so, yeah in the US.

 

[hodayathink]

I hope creamsugar delights us with some older games' LTD, since this month seems quite boring otherwise.

More specifically, years ago, creamsugar made this posts for both Vita and 3DS

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=39954250&highlight=#post39954250

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=39985160&highlight=#post39985160

I'd like to see an updated one (maybe Wii U as well, + Bayonetta 2's updated LTD as a bonus )

I feel like the Vita one would just make me cry.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Lego Jurassic beasting in the US too.

When will the madness end.