Xavien said:Even though this is a stupid post, I'm gonna reply to it anyway. Instead of thinking of it like business, think of it like Football (either version), you root for your team, you don't get anything out of it, you even pay the team to watch the game, you follow them.
Why is following a football team (which is basically a company anyway) any less ludicrous then following a videogame company? it's only an extension of what the human race has been doing for 2000 years anyway.
NPD is our version of "the big match" and MC is our version of "the weekly game".
darthbane2k said:Gaming would be going down the drain if the mass market could no longer afford the consoles..
$400 > $600 > $800 > $1000 - if Sony were to win this gen, where would it end?..
Kabuki Waq said:cant disagree with this either. But right now Nintendo is leading the charge against real gaming with thier shallow Gimmicky 15 minutes of fun type games.
Pardon my monolingualism, but does that say "Did you mean: Nintendo Wii"?Stealth Editor said:
That my friend, is a very bad fakeStealth Editor said:http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb135/qwerty1023/googlewii.jpg
For nowMetalmurphy said:That my friend, is a very bad fake
Kabuki Waq said:cant disagree with this either. But right now Nintendo is leading the charge against real gaming with thier shallow Gimmicky 15 minutes of fun type games.
Stealth Editor said:For now
AdmiralViscen said:Including Pokemon, Super Paper Mario, Zelda TP, and Excite Truck.
Kabuki Waq said:every single one of those games except Pokemon(which has not really improved in years IMO) would have been just as good if not better with a regular controller and will be outsold by Wii sports 2.
I didnt really like excite truck at all other than the sense of speed. Most reviewers agree with me but ofcourse forum fanboys know better.
darthbane2k said:Woah! Hold on... Zelda better on a traditional controller? *thoughts of Sky Temple, thoughts of final battle with Ganon, thoughts of sword slashing, aiming with bow and arrow* - Nah!
Kabuki Waq said:every single one of those games except Pokemon(which has not really improved in years IMO) would have been just as good if not better with a regular controller and will be outsold by Wii sports 2.
I didnt really like excite truck at all other than the sense of speed. Most reviewers agree with me but ofcourse forum fanboys know better.
And, no offence, but your opinion is BULL.Kabuki Waq said:Sword play was awful with the wiimote. Aiming was better but that was it. Everything else was better with aregular controller. All IMO ofcourse.
Kabuki Waq said:every single one of those games except Pokemon(which has not really improved in years IMO) would have been just as good if not better with a regular controller and will be outsold by Wii sports 2.
I didnt really like excite truck at all other than the sense of speed. Most reviewers agree with me but ofcourse forum fanboys know better.
darthbane2k said:Woah! Hold on... Zelda better on a traditional controller? *thoughts of Sky Temple, thoughts of final battle with Ganon, thoughts of sword slashing, aiming with bow and arrow* - Nah!
It didnt make any improvement in terms of control accuracy, but it was hella fun. Way more fun than hammering a button.jjasper said:no the sword slashing in Zelda was tacked on and isn't an improvement in anyway
darthbane2k said:It didnt make any improvement in terms of control accuracy, but it was hella fun. Way more fun than hammering with a button.
At times I would give the Wii mote to my 3yr old son while exploring hyrule field, he would slash away That to me is golden.
jjasper said:no the sword slashing in Zelda was tacked on and isn't an improvement in anyway
Also Super Paper Mario would have been better with a traditional controller
darthbane2k said:It didnt make any improvement in terms of control accuracy, but it was hella fun. Way more fun than hammering a button.
At times I would give the Wii mote to my 3yr old son while exploring hyrule field, he would slash away That to me is golden.
Kabuki Waq said:cant disagree with this either. But right now Nintendo is leading the charge against real gaming with thier shallow Gimmicky 15 minutes of fun type games.
Grecco said:No. No it wouldnt.
It proves the EXPERIENCE is better and is more inclusive. I have been a zelda fan since the first on NES, that moment, to see my son playing a zelda game and actually acknowledging that he is fighting an enemy on screen meant a lot to me. Better than explaining to him where the A or B button is.Kabuki Waq said:The fact that your 3 yr old son can wiggle the wiimote mean absolutely nothing and does not prove that the wiimote is better. It just means you 3rd old sun knows how to move his hands.
darthbane2k said:It proves the EXPERIENCE is better and is more inclusive. I have been a zelda fan since the first on NES, that moment, to see my son playing a zelda game and actually acknowledging that he is fighting an enemy on screen meant a lot to me. Better than explaining to him where the A or B button is.
Thats what im saying. 9 times out of 10 the Wii mote will improve control, the rest of the time it will enhance the experience of controlling the game. You cannot beat that.
again, you are arguing for lack of control options for what sake? Sure, waggle in Zelda swordplay is the same as pressing A.. what is your point? Does it hurt the game? Does it hinder the game? Worst case scenario is, as you said, it is just like pressing A. However you still have aiming with the wiimote and still have the physical separation of the controller elements adding comfort to playing. BEST case scenario is that it adds a sense of immersion or just plain interactivity providing a new level of interaction with the game. Either way in no way does waggle make things worse.Kabuki Waq said:You could just let your son press A on the controller in ANY game and there would be a response on the screen. How is the Wiimote better?
Suikoguy said:Until PS2 sales drop, Sony really has nothing to worry about.. if sales suck this bad during the fall, that is another story.
When PS2 has basically kept pace with 360...
nubbe said:A 50% PS3 price drop is looking mighty fine right now. I want myself a Bluray player
My Chemical Mouse said:After Sony's amazing performance this last week at their gamers day, and the impending price drop likely this fall or early 08, how can anyone think it will not come roaring back when the PS2 is still selling 200k units a month?
There is no rational in the world that can fight this logically, it's going to happen. Simply a matter of time.
Ouch for 360 though, this was the time to take advantage, and still getting outsold by PS2 on a monthly basis...that's GOTTA hurt.
Clever Pun said:So, did we get any software numbers other than the top 10? I tried to go read through the thread, but I was daunted by the 12 pages of moxie.jpg
borghe said:again, you are arguing for lack of control options for what sake? Sure, waggle in Zelda swordplay is the same as pressing A.. what is your point? Does it hurt the game? Does it hinder the game? Worst case scenario is, as you said, it is just like pressing A. However you still have aiming with the wiimote and still have the physical separation of the controller elements adding comfort to playing. BEST case scenario is that it adds a sense of immersion or just plain interactivity providing a new level of interaction with the game. Either way in no way does waggle make things worse.
I swear.. some of you just come across more as just afraid of change than anything else. What if no steering wheels, dance mats, guitar controllers, light guns, trackballs, of the god damn joystick itself were ever created? Nolan Bushnell "You know, the paddle dial is all we ever really need for control!" WTF?
darthbane2k said:It proves the EXPERIENCE is better and is more inclusive. I have been a zelda fan since the first on NES, that moment, to see my son playing a zelda game and actually acknowledging that he is fighting an enemy on screen meant a lot to me. Better than explaining to him where the A or B button is.
Thats what im saying. 9 times out of 10 the Wii mote will improve control, the rest of the time it will enhance the experience of controlling the game. You cannot beat that.
meltpotato said:here is the root of the problem. i don't give a **** about whether your son likes it or it is inclusive for him.
GhaleonEB said:Random observation:
Even with the 360's low April sales, it's still doing better than the Xbox did at the same point in it's lifecycle - over 35% better (rounding since exact historical NPD figures are frowned upon). And at an average sale price of over twice what the Xbox was at the time (Elite). Lots of different factors and the comparison is less and less meaningful as time goes on, but I thought it was interesting.
And I don't give a **** about whether you like it or not. The plain undeniable fact is that you're in the minority.meltpotato said:here is the root of the problem. i don't give a **** about whether your son likes it or it is inclusive for him.
Jokeropia said:And I don't give a **** about whether you like it or not. The plain undeniable fact is that you're in the minority.
I had a lot of fun with it. Casually flicking the controller to make Link pull out his sword was ultra sweet. Maybe you should try to enjoy games more.Kabuki Waq said:The waggle is actually WORSE than pressing A.
Kabuki Waq said:The waggle is actually WORSE than pressing A. It feels Random and out of place. You are telling me Nintendo did way with decent online and good graphics for a control scheme that only improves games in a minor way sometimes?
urk said:With no Halo to drive sales.
September - Holiday NPD is going to be very interesting.
Blown up? Hahaha, I just used the same wording as the post I quoted to illustrate the equivalence. I'm actually amused your bitching and all the bitter tears in this thread.Kabuki Waq said:obviously you care or else you would have have blown up like that.
Gah, I didn't think of that. 360 should have a great second-half of the year.urk said:With no Halo to drive sales.
September - Holiday NPD is going to be very interesting.