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NPD Sales Results for April 2014 [Up2: XB1/360 hardware, PS4 #1/XB1 #2 best selling]
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Mysterious
Banned
What does that have to do with anything? PS4 was not supply constrained in April (if it was, I would like a source and I'd gladly recant my statement). In fact, because it was supply constrained in previous months, sales should be higher in April because people would have waited for it to land on store shelves, no?
Persona RS
Member
The Xbox platform (115K + 71k) sold more than the Playstation plataform. And we also know that the PS4 sold more than the Xbox One.
I just don't think it will outsell it by that much. i can't see Xbox One selling much more than 40 mil. If that :/
Maybe I was wrong about the state of the industry back in January's thread. I'm still hopeful PS4 can do 120m mil+ though.
ReignofSparrows
Member
I am honestly pretty new to all this NPD stuff, so I want to know what I am missing. Any response would be appreciated.
Based on the 360 numbers listed for past Aprils, wouldn't that mean that a ~215k month for the PS4 is pretty good? It seems to be above par for April sales of the 360. Also, I assume the PS4 has a higher ratio of WW to US sales. I don't see how the doom and gloom is warranted based on that.
Based on the 360 numbers listed for past Aprils, wouldn't that mean that a ~215k month for the PS4 is pretty good? It seems to be above par for April sales of the 360. Also, I assume the PS4 has a higher ratio of WW to US sales. I don't see how the doom and gloom is warranted based on that.
7DollarHagane
Banned
The software was much stronger for that first year of Xbox 360. If there's any fault for this its with the console manufacturers. 360s first year was unstoppable. Just excellent games coming out every month or two.
I wonder why we haven't seen that this gen? Publishers too scared to drop last gen ports, scared away by the mobile phone bogeyman?
Aquamarine
Member
It's good to be patient.
Syphon Filter
Member
I want WiiU Numbers. Maybe 30k-40k?
I don't particularly care what Nintendo has said they will do. I have never been more confident that this is what they need to do.
Like it or not, the 3DS is a device that feels designed for a prior generation of mobile devices. The OS is slow and limited. The store is poorly designed. There's no real multitasking. It has few network features.
I feel that they need to leapfrog into the next gen of mobile devices to keep mindshare because their device is unfortunately not well suited to the software the casual audience likes to play...
Like it or not, the 3DS is a device that feels designed for a prior generation of mobile devices. The OS is slow and limited. The store is poorly designed. There's no real multitasking. It has few network features.
I feel that they need to leapfrog into the next gen of mobile devices to keep mindshare because their device is unfortunately not well suited to the software the casual audience likes to play...
Opus Angelorum
Member
And I quote "bad".
I really don't think we should consider things like overall sale curve of the new gen consoles less than an year into the launch. Too many variables compared to previous gens. Different hardware release schedules on various markets, software release schedules, Japanese market decline which skews the overall result a bit (when it comes to the PS4 at least), even the tax situation in Japan and more should be taken into consideration. I think an annual comparison would be more appropriate here.
The issue is there's not the userbase on PS4/XB1 yet for a 3rd party big-budget game to be profitable without PS3/360 ports.
Cream is MIA, Aqua had to go to work.
It's not just about the PS4, which many people seem to be missing.
It's about console gaming as a whole. Which, right now, is looking dire.
If the PS4 was doing well (and it would need to be doing a bit better than it is now) and the WiiU and XBox One weren't doing nearly as bad as they are, there would be no cause for concern.
That isn't the case, though,
I'm bad to the bone. B-b-b-b-b-bad.
brandonh83
Banned
I would have said that last year, but like you said I feel that's some good reasoning right there to go ahead and introduce it.
It's definitely possible. Also, as already mentioned by Man-is-obsolete, it's possible the unusually front loaded sales of both the PS4/Xbone just mean the well of early adopters has run dry sooner than expected, but that this will "even out" as time goes on and more releases come out to pull in more casual buyers who won't buy until the games they want are released.
6 months of data gives us enough data to start speculating without feeling like wildly gesticulating idiots but not enough data to reach confident, definitive conclusions.
Because if the 360 was supply constrained until its first April, it would give an inaccurate indication of demand for the 360 during it's first April.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
She's in a meeting with Iwata
On a serious note, she had an engagement thus limiting her posts today for the NPD thread
BananaSprinkles
Banned
Where does it say that?
Aquamarine
Member
Iwata-san says hi, everyone.
Dragonborn
Member
I think the PS4 will do better than the PS1, but it won't do 120 million. I'd say 100-105 million. The X1 will do 35-40 million. And the Wii U will do 15-20 million. That's just what I think.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Because I'm trying to compare US market leaders at similar price. Wii was its own thing at $250. I don't see how that is relevant. Price is a huge factor for consoles.
After google searching I didn't realize in April 2007 MS dropped the price of the consoles AND it had 3 SKUs.
So it's not the best comparison. But i think it shows the ps4 is doing just fine at its price point with its rival competitor launching right with them
Opus Angelorum
Member
He's brave.
meeting said could only be here till 645 then a 3 hr meeting
Hades Hotgun
Banned
The Wii dropped off hard and fast, whereas Playstations tend to have very good sustained sales over a long span. The PS3 did over 80 million, so it wouldn't take much for the PS4, given its trajectory, to outsell the Wii LTD.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Yeah, I'm not sure why no one was allowed to sell $20-$40 retail console titles until well into the second half of the generation. May have hurt a lot of games that could probably have succeeded for their publisher but were instead DOA at full price.
This is the best idea I've heard all year!
Don't see even that. 3ds is barely 3 years old isn't it.
Can the Wii U even 10 mil? ;_;
ColorblindJedi
Banned
Wouldn't most people just buy the current gen version of the game? I don't see a cross gen game pushing a lot of console sales for next gen systems when the game comes out the same time for every system.
travisbickle
Member
I'm of the opinion Sony sent ~280/280/380k to USA for Jan/Feb/Mar and sold out. Now if they sent ~380k for April that's a big drop off and I don't think they can hide that in their "demand is still outstripping supply" quote, if they went back to 280k and sent the extra to Euroland, maybe they can show the PS4 still outstripping production.
this "demand is outstripping supply" quote.
I can't see a situation in which the PS4 outsells the Wii world wide.
Unless you expect Europe to pick up the slack for a trailing NA and Japan.
theprodigy
Member
yeah, if Xbox One can't beat OG Xbox I'm going all in on the doom train
whoa!
Nintendo numbers now pls
such a brave prediction
I also quote that the Vita did "god awful".
Officerrob
Banned
What the fuck is this?
MikeE21286
Member
This is maybe spinning for Xbox, but the fact that the One costs 25% more the 360 ever did is surely a cause for the low April (as compared to previous gen)
Dragonborn
Member
I'm still hoping it can....... maybe. If MK8 can't turn things around, I'll give up on it.
Not Quality of Life enough.
What do you mean "was allowed"? I think publishers just knew that $20-40 titles didn't meet the expectations of the AAA crowd because they perceived something was wrong with it or whatever.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Every gen is unique... 360 sales took a dump when RROD issues surfaced and then jumped when Kinect was released. PS3 sales rebounded with a slew of hits (Uncharted, Lou).
Things could easily shift with combinations of price drops, unforeseen hits, or new hardware accessories (VR glasses, MS's projector thing)
I suspect the primary problem is the cost of making games. As costs have risen, there are simply fewer and fewer games being made. Epic is seeing about 1/3 as many AAA games being made so far this gen (both released and in development) compared to last.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Where's creamsugar at?
Graphics Horse
Member
e3 2015 will be the 3DS's 6th e3 appearance.
I don't see it, their press release only talks about XBO+X360 combined software