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[aspiegamer]

I don't suppose there's any seriously hidden data on how many of the 20th Anniversary PS4s were sold? Curious how many were retailed in the US of the 12300, or would Sony have not bothered reporting it?

 

[hodayathink]

It could have been that Frozen game on DS.

Either that or some game from 2013 selling over that much, and the wording meaning that the top 15 were not only on 3DS, but released this year.

And honestly, I don't think MLB sold that much. If it had been out for longer, I would have suggested Minecraft Vita, but that only came out in October, I believe.

 

[watership]

Is that MS press release stating that the 360 finally overtook the Wii?

Funny, I thought the 360 did that last summer in the US.

 

[KillerMan91]

Assuming Dent's number is reliable, the US accounts for only 36% of PS4 global sell-through.

Where do people pull these sorts of numbers from?

How can the fanbase be 3-4M when no game in the franchise has shipped that much, afaik.

Crazy especially considering how abysmal sales have been in Japan. PS4 is killing it in Europe and in rest of the world.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

I think that was Ben Kuchera.

Nah it was both those clowns.

 

[Daemul]

This thread is so slow. I'll come back when Creamsugar brings his pie charts.

 

[Hawk269]

Just saw the Sony commercial where the two guys are playing NBA 2k15 and then jump to Destiny. Why wouldn't they advertise exclusives?



That is how I read it, yes.

That is one of the worst video game commercial that I have seen. I am not sure what the point of it really is and how it drives people to want to go out and buy a PS4.

 

[RespectThySole]

So the 36% ratio was maintained if those figures are accurate and a ~225k gap for December.

 

[donny2112]

I'm wondering if it was a reactionary measure to a potentially dismal lead over the PS4 for December. I can't really think of any reason to go back up to $400, then back down to $350.

Because they said they'd go back to $400 after January 3rd. And they did. For ~2 weeks. They're a man of their word.

 

[Duxxy3]

Assuming Dent's number is reliable, the US accounts for only 36% of PS4 global sell-through.

Where do people pull these sorts of numbers from?

How can the fanbase be 3-4M when no game in the franchise has shipped that much, afaik.

Mostly my ass. It's where I get the majority of my guesses. It's wrong roughly 90% of the time.


Dumb ass.

 

[Derpyduck]

It don't see why it shouldn't be. Given that Nov+Dec are the biggest months for people to pick up consoles, it's completely understandable that the GTA V's numbers would heavily skew toward the bundles.

Also remember that the stand-alone game sold more on PS4 in November (i.e., the first month for GTA V NG, where most games get the majority of their sales).

Also consider digital. That's how I bought it. Though I guess this would theoretically have equal effect on the Xbox version as well.

Ahhhh right I forgot it came out in November and not December. Totally makes sense that it sold more on Xbox One in December and more on PS4 in November, especially considering the free game deal some places were running for buying an Xbox One. I also bought it digitally on PS4, but I don't expect the percentages to be that different from PS4 to Xbox One.

 

[CosmicQueso]

This thread is so slow. I'll come back when Creamsugar brings his pie charts.

It is good news for everyone, of course it's a slower thread lol.

 

[RedAssedApe]

Yes, and I'm saying if you forget the bundles altogether, there were 700k more PS4 owners than Xbox One owners. So I therefore find it surprising that it sold more on Xbox One. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it didn't sell on PS4, because that would be absurd.

someone already replied with the same thing above

 

[Loakum]

I think the souls fanbase is somewhere between 3 and 4 million. The issue that Bloodborne has is that it doesn't have access to the Xbox market, like DaS 1 and 2 had.

I expect Bloodborne to sell better than Demon's souls, but less than Dark Souls 1 or 2.

Multi platform games generally sale better than exclusives, however I'm basing my figures on how many PS4 on the market factored in the hype for Bloodborne. It's like when The Last of Us was an upcoming title. The amount of hype for that game sold a ton of year one copies....and word of mouth and reviews continued it's great sales. Bloodborne has the potential to do the same, because the hype is definitely there.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Crazy especially considering how abysmal sales have been in Japan. PS4 is killing it in Europe and in rest of the world.

Japan accounts for about 5.5% of global sell-through.

So basically everywhere else 58% of sell-through.

 

[On Demand]

Let's use some critical thinking here. Tons of people bought next gen consoles, yes? Lets say there was a lot of them that wanted GTAV. Well, those that bought a new PS4 had it included. Those that bought an X1 had to buy it separately. You see now?

Like i said. People are looking way too much into XB1's software sales compared to PS4 for December. Like come on now.

 

[Shifty1897]

So the only game I played on here was Destiny. Am I the unreachable demographic?

 

[KillerMan91]

If those numbers are real they are lower than expected. usually in Dec you do better or 1.5 million.

2006:
Xbox 360 1.1 million

2007:
PS3: 797.6k

Edit. And that is with both X360 and PS3 having a lot smaller novembers during those years.

 

[Chobel]

It is good news for everyone, of course it's a slower thread lol.

Is it good news for PS3?

 

[Superman00]

Damn. Never looked at it that way.

The gap at the end of last year was only 1.2M in favor of the PS4. It grew by 7M this year. If Sony do a price drop + the current games schedule. The gap this year is gonna increase great than 7M.

 

[Freeman]

I think that Sony was unprepared for how aggressive MS was going to be this holidays. GTAV helped Sony a lot, if they ended up with AC and MS with GTA MS would have done much better.

I think that Sony should be considering cutting the price of the PS4 in NA before doing the same in other territories. They should announce the NA price cut in the next E3 and than do the same for Europe and Japan in the next Gamescom and TGS.

 

[Clear]

Damn. Never looked at it that way.

That's always been MS big problem with the Xbox brand, strong domestically and in the culturally similar UK, but beyond that a big drop-off in penetration.

I can't help but see that being even more pronounced this gen with Nintendo being far less competitive to Sony's market share in the regions where Xbox is weak.

 

[allan-bh]

Europe (PAL region for be more precise) is for PS4 what USA is for Xbox One.

 

[ZSaberLink]

So, this stat is somewhat interesting.

In 2014, 16 Nintendo 3DS titles sold at least 250,000 units. Of those titles, eight sold more than 500,000 units and three sold over 1 million units.
I'm guessing for this year

3 sold over 1M = Smash Bros. 3DS, Pokemon Alpha Sapphire, Pokemon Omega Ruby
8 sold over 500K - ? (does this include the over 1M ones?)
5 sold over 250K - ? (same question here...)

I assume these are US stats, but what games could actually sell that much?
Mario Kart 7, Pokemon X, Pokemon Y, Animal Crossing New Leaf, Zelda: Link Between Worlds, Zelda OOT 3D, Bravely Default, Yoshi's New Island, Tomodachi Life, Kirby: Triple Deluxe, Mario 3D Land, DKCR 3D?.... I'm still missing 1?

So any thoughts here? Maybe it's a Lego game?

 

[Loakum]

YAAAAAS! I loved Heavy Rain and this is right up that lane with a horror twist. Shut off the lights and turn the headset to 11!

*cyber high-five* ^_^

 

[CosmicQueso]

Is it good news for PS3?

Yeah, a good % higher than we thought earlier.

Was a great month for 3DS?

Consistent with recent monthly year on year change trends.

 

[Discomurf]

Found these 2 stats interesting..

Just Dance (Wii U) outsold XB1 and PS4 versions in Dec.

COD:Ghosts (Wii U) outsold PC version in 2014

 

[Paracelsus]

2006:
Xbox 360 1.1 million

2007:
PS3: 797.6k

Deserved bomba for both units in the respective year.

 

[ZSaberLink]

Found these 2 stats interesting..

Just Dance (Wii U) outsold XB1 and PS4 versions in Dec.

COD:Ghosts (Wii U) outsold PC version in 2014

Just Dance Wii U is expected imo. As Aqua said before, PC retail is completely dead (aka all digital) so it's no surprise there.

 

[Dragonborn]

Like i said. People are looking way too much into XB1's software sales compared to PS4 for December. Like come on now.

They really. In general all the PS4 crushed! and doomed and whatnot posts just have me kind of astonished here.

How can people honestly think stuff like that? Makes no sense. Both consoles sold great, the PS4 did incredibly even though it was siginifacntly more expensive and I'd wager as a result Sony made out with more money from consoles than MS did. The gap is still 500k, and it'll likely go right back to growing throughout the year so yea, all in all, wow.

 

[jmaine_ph]

*cyber high-five* ^_^

= ) I wonder what fun things they can come up with using the twitch interactions.

 

[Chobel]

Yeah, a good % higher than we thought earlier.

Phew, thanks! Feeling good I predicted >100K for PS3

 

[donny2112]

very true.

i've frequently posted tie ratio comparisons throughout the months.

ps4 may have a larger digital presence, but people have underestimated the xb1 at retail software.

Nintendo gave % growth for unit software sales in 2014 over 2013. Do we have the Wii U tie ratio at the end of 2012 and 2013? With that, we should be able to figure out the tie ratio now for the system.

 

[MaulerX]

Like i said. People are looking way too much into XB1's software sales compared to PS4 for December. Like come on now.

Reason being that no matter how you slice it, the PS4 still had/has a higher install base.

 

[Orthogonal]

Just Dance Wii U is expected imo. As Aqua said before, PC retail is completely dead (aka all digital) so it's no surprise there.

PC may be all digital, but CoD is all but dead on PC. At least it is on Steam.

 

[shinra-bansho]

So any thoughts here? Maybe it's a Lego game?

I don't know about your broader question, but it says in the PR 16 sold more than 250K, so the 8 doesn't include the 3 or the 5.

 

[Freeman]

Europe (PAL region for be more precise) is for PS4 what USA is for Xbox One.

And Japan is for Xbox One what Greenland is for PS4.

 

[Deku Tree]

Congrats Destiny on being #3 as a new IP.

 

[Duxxy3]

Found these 2 stats interesting..

Just Dance (Wii U) outsold XB1 and PS4 versions in Dec.

COD:Ghosts (Wii U) outsold PC version in 2014

Ghosts for PC was the worst optimized CoD game ever made. Black Ops 2 was very well optimized, so people just stuck with BO2.

 

[ZSaberLink]

I don't know about your broader question, but it says in the PR 16 sold more than 250K, so the 8 doesn't include the 3 or the 5.

Ok, that's how I interpreted it as well. I guess I just thought the software figures were better than I was expecting.

I'm pretty sure we already know Bravely, Tomodachi, Yoshi & Kirby are pretty likely over 250K by now. I'm just confused as to what the 500K ones are. I assume there's quite a few evergreens...

 

[Mass Effect]

PC may be all digital, but CoD is all but dead on PC. At least it is on Steam.

Well, CoD is a Steamworks game, so if it's dead on Steam, it's dead.

I don't blame PC gamers though. I know when I want to play a shooter on PC, it's either CS:GO or Battlefield.

 

[ForsakenLotus]

Fable Legends or Quantum Break.

Both those are around summer/late spring

Quantum Break is a really fascinating game. I can't wait to actually see what the game really is. Fable Legends, pretty much the opposite.

Even though I don't think The Order 1886 or Bloodborne will be system sellers, I think those two games will likely ensure the PS4 will win those months.

Hopefully this year is the opposite of last year, the year of disappointment.

 

[RedAssedApe]

They really. In general all the PS4 crushed! and doomed and whatnot posts just have me kind of astonished here.

How can people honestly think stuff like that? Makes no sense. Both consoles sold great, the PS4 did incredibly even though it was siginifacntly more expensive and I'd wager as a result Sony made out with more money from consoles than MS did. The gap is still 500k, and it'll likely go right back to growing throughout the year so yea, all in all, wow.

completely ignoring nov. npd and overall 2014 npd for those same titles that show ps4 sold more...sigh

i'm just going to ignore some of these doom and gloom software related posts now.

 

[CosmicQueso]

I don't know about your broader question, but it says in the PR 16 sold more than 250K, so the 8 doesn't include the 3 or the 5.

What are you guys trying to figure out?

 

[Daemul]

It is good news for everyone, of course it's a slower thread lol.

Yeah, that's true. I think I've just become used to NPD threads being super busy, when before the new consoles launched, them being the monster threads they are now was the exception rather than the norm.

 

[Miles X]

Yeah, a good % higher than we thought earlier.



Consistent with recent monthly year on year change trends.

So about 750k~ (Given it was down a little over 30% last month).

 

[Kotetsu534]

So assuming Kevin Dent's figures for December (XB1 at 1.29M, PS4 at 1.065M) are accurate, and taking some figures from the November NPD thread as follows:

XB1 - 1.24M
PS4 - 840k
Wii U - ~245k

A cut by the XB1 of 400k in November, followed up by a cut of 225k in December. PS4's lead presumed to be at 500k.

In terms of % total monthly US sales (ignoring Wii U) the PS4 closed from a 41.4%/59.6% defeat in November to a 45.2%/54.8% defeat in December. All eyes January.

 

[Chobel]

Europe (PAL region for be more precise) is for PS4 what USA is for Xbox One.

We have no idea how much percentage does Europe present for PS4 sales. We only know that 58% of PS4 sold-through sales happened outside US/Japan.

 

[semiconscious]

That's always been MS big problem with the Xbox brand, strong domestically and in the culturally similar UK, but beyond that a big drop-off in penetration.

I can't help but see that being even more pronounced this gen with Nintendo being far less competitive to Sony's market share in the regions where Xbox is weak.

well, if they keep offering these promotions in only those 'friendly' markets, as they just did, i'd say it's almost a sure thing...

 

[Javin98]

Fellow Gaffers, what important info did I miss about NPD? Did we get the numbers yet? I'm in school right now so please reply fast.