The Artisan
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i'll take that as a yes?
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NPD Sales Results for December 2015 [Up1: Super Mario Maker]
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gamerMan
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When I look at the top 10 games of the year, it makes me depressed. It looks like last year's and the year before. I didn't buy any of those games. It's all sequels, shooters, Minecraft, and reiterations of games that I have played before.
Where's the Witcher 3? Until Dawn? Return Of Tomb Raider? Bloodborne? Mario Maker? Splatoon? Metal Gear?
I would say this list is pointless like the game of the year lists but it is not. This is what is selling. It sends a clear message to game creators.
Where's the Witcher 3? Until Dawn? Return Of Tomb Raider? Bloodborne? Mario Maker? Splatoon? Metal Gear?
I would say this list is pointless like the game of the year lists but it is not. This is what is selling. It sends a clear message to game creators.
Minecraft and GTA didn't come out in 2015, so the MS statement excludes those titles and includes another 2 that came out in 2015, one of those which must be an XBO exclusive for them to be able to get away with that line.
forgot about that haha
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
And the original videogame, from Atari.
You forget that once families used to play the likes of Pong, and it was very much sort of a fad. There's nothing wrong with that, you just have to be consistent and be able to tickle their fancy like a serial killer.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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As stupid as It is it will never die
Silent Chief
Member
Sony is better at putting hardware together, but let's just assume they are equal, why would people make the jump? Their first party are losing market share fast and Xbox is dead in Japan. I don't see them getting the same level of support they had for the 360 again.
Are you sure you didn't write that, Conduit?
Obliterator
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Saying the Wii is a statistical outlier is not the same thing as saying it is a fad
CosmicQueso
Member
But if they were great at their jobs, no one would know they were being spun.
The Artisan
Member
well neither did halo.
Bits N Pieces
Member
The MS PR is God tier, the amount of twisted knickers it causes in the people that read it is unparalleled lol
sturgboski
Member
Well but those people get real jobs as politicians or spokespeople for politicians.
Youtube.
Not a single exclusive did, no Bloodborne either. Assuming you are talking about the full year
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Since your thread got closed: WTF is a categorical liar? And why do you even care? He's a PR person, it's his job to spin the truth. And 3.9 shipped is actually 3.9 sold. Just not sold through.
CosmicQueso
Member
Evilr I appreciate you challenging people, but jeez you could be a bit nicer about it.
It is, was, and forever will be, an outlier. Something that performed outside a statistical norm. It's math.
So that's how Trump's doing it.
It is, was, and forever will be, an outlier. Something that performed outside a statistical norm. It's math.
So that's how Trump's doing it.
"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
There were a sizeable number of people who purchased the game that were pretty peeves about its exclusion. Couple this with the low numbers for this entry and it's easy to see how it might be a bigger deal to a lot more people than you seem I think it is. It might not bother you or a portion of the current game's player base all that much but considering the state that the game is in sales wise that doesn't really tell us much at all about what the wider audience things about its exclusion.
That's fair. I just recently played through the campaign and I found the warden fights to be far more egregious personally. They are still fresh in my mind and it surprised me that they seemed like such a small complaint amongst the fanbase given my experience and the outrage I saw with the order for essentially the same issue. But you're right it is a smaller portion of the game as a while so that makes sense.
It doesn't change the fact that I found the campaign to be an absolute slog though. Or that the squads mate AI was incredibly frustrating and genuinely awful 90% of the time. Considering the degree to which the campaign was built around the idea of having a squad it really made it entirely I enjoyable to me and I doubt I'm the only one who feels that way.
I guess my point is that trying to pawn off the sales off Halo 5 as being strictly due to 4 and MCC is incredibly disingenuous when there are plenty of things Halo 5 drops the ball on. Not just in the campaign but the matchmaking issues for multiplayer in Oceania, South America and Japan are a serious problem. They basically make multiplayer unplayable for anyone with a moderately high rank in these regions thanks to wait times often exceeding 1 hour. Yet again we see very little mention of this anywhere.
TLDR: Halo 5 has plenty of issues that are likely to be just as much a factor in its current sales than past mistakes.
sturgboski
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Such a great Episode.
Obliterator
Member
100% TRUTHFACT
Poimandres
Member
Xbox One is the best place for gamers and the only console that has all top 10 best-selling titles of this generation that launched in 2015.
I guess it actually means and Xbox exclusive title that launched in 2015 (Halo 5?) had to be in the top 13 for the year. Those 3 listed above are the 2014 titles.
That is some impressive spin, truly.
In the newest Pachter Factor episode that's available on Youtube, and seems to be before than start of 2016, he is asked the question if this gen will last as long as the 360 / PS3 gen of 7-8 years, and relating to 4K TVs
https://youtu.be/ck897uny1Ow?t=5m46s
Nevermind the stuff about 4K TV prices and uptake, Pachter says he would be surprised if there's a next generation console in 2018, but there might be in 2019, and there will be by 2020. He said this gen will be longer than 5 years, that 6 years is likely and thinks 7 years is "a lot".
Steverulez
Member
Same for me though this isn't the first year it's happened.
360 was launched 1 year sooner and is basically equal to PS3, so Sony isn't that great.
If Sony play their cards right will be difficult to MS, but there's a lot variables. Microsoft will launch earlier, will have price advantage...? Is to soon to predict anything, in PS2 era we all thought that PS3 winning was a given.
Primethius
Banned
Doesn't necessarily mean it's top 13. They're excluding all titles that didn't come out this year. 11, 12, 13 could be titles that came out last year as well. They might not have. Hard to tell at this point.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Never forget.
Same thing happened when Sony took a picture of Forza Motorsport and pretended it was the new GT. They have PR companies for that kind of stuff and both screw up. Websites, blogs and twitter accounts are all outsourced.
Why would the top 10 for the year depress you? A healthy software market drives console sales, expanding the market for more niche titles.
All the games you listed were made, and released to critical and (Tomb Raider aside) commercial success. None of them would ever challenge GTAa or CODs for sales, but Bloodborne, Splatoon and Until Dawn would have been sales sucess stories in their own rights. Supermassive have said that Until Dawn sold way above expectations, and Splatoon and Bloodborne both sold well for new IPs.
wait, this possibility of the next xbox launching one year earlier than competitor's is it based on anything (did i miss a rumor) or are you just saying it?
Unfortunately if they were to touch (or even embrace) both universes would collapse. So this is the way it must be for all time.
ZSaberLink
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The Artisan
Member
I wouldn't say they're basically equal. Perhaps they're within the same ball park as Ps4 and Xbone are, but I think it is safe to say Ps3 was more powerful than 360.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
If no WiiU was sold, yes.
XB1 should be at least 1.38 million.
From what some of us calculated, both consoles sold less than 3m combined, so no.
Something like 1.31m and 1.49m is more like it.
CosmicQueso
Member
This is kinda big news, and encouraging for future development.
We acutally had publisher growth in the Physical space in 2015!
41 publishers put a game into the market in 2015! First time we've had growth there since 2009. That makes me happy.
Not all great news though. The overall number of unique titles released in 2015 fell again. We are now under 200 games released per year. That's a bit of a bummer.
We acutally had publisher growth in the Physical space in 2015!
41 publishers put a game into the market in 2015! First time we've had growth there since 2009. That makes me happy.
Not all great news though. The overall number of unique titles released in 2015 fell again. We are now under 200 games released per year. That's a bit of a bummer.
joecanada
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Considering that the definition of fad is something that is popular for a short period of time , it's not hard to see why Wii would fit into this definition for some people. As technology it did not stay popular for a huge amount of time.