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NPD Sales Results for December 2015 [Up1: Super Mario Maker]

nekkid

It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
No but something tells me of halo wars 2 doesnt hit as well they might give the series a long sabatical, and come back in 5 or 6 years with something special

I'm really looking forward to it, but Halo Wars 2 won't sell very well at all. Being on the PC will help, I guess.

I'm kind of hoping the sales of Halo 5 will mean it gets scaled back a bit, and is less bombastic. And yeah, a year or two off won't hurt.
 
It is the opposite to me.

RotW will make Sony sell PS3 for a long time yet... it will reach 10 years.

If I recall Sony said they would cut the ps3 entering 2o16, while MS said they would cut the 36o after or end of 2o16.

But then again how much is the 36o and ps3 still selling, do we have holiday numbers for November and December. if we do and its like below 1ok then outside a sudden drop to $99 or below I dont see any real reason to keep them around.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
If I recall Sony said they would cut the ps3 entering 2o16, while MS said they would cut the 36o after or end of 2o16.

But then again how much is the 36o and ps3 still selling, do we have holiday numbers for November and December. if we do and its like below 1ok then outside a sudden drop to $99 or below I dont see any real reason to keep them around.

Best Buy has yet to restock since the holidays for the PS3 with new systems online or in store. Same for Amazon as well. They are fulfilling other sellers/retailers, with seemingly no warehouse stock themselves.

So, hmmm.
 
I'm really looking forward to it, but Halo Wars 2 won't sell very well at all. Being on the PC will help, I guess.

I'm kind of hoping the sales of Halo 5 will mean it gets scaled back a bit, and is less bombastic. And yeah, a year or two off won't hurt.

WTF, Halo isnt selling badly guys. Halo has legs, is already likely heading toward 3 million, and I think its safe to say it will be over 4 U.S. alone at minimum but likely will sell more for U.S. LTD, Add rest of the world itll be around 8.

Halo Wars may sell 2 or max 3 million LTD, and wont really get much attention paid to it, which would make this year seem like a break anyway to be honest.
 

nekkid

It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
If I recall Sony said they would cut the ps3 entering 2o16, while MS said they would cut the 36o after or end of 2o16.

But then again how much is the 36o and ps3 still selling, do we have holiday numbers for November and December. if we do and its like below 1ok then outside a sudden drop to $99 or below I dont see any real reason to keep them around.

Dafuk is going on with your zeros, dude?
 
Best Buy has yet to restock since the holidays for the PS3 with new systems online or in store. Same for Amazon as well. They are fulfilling other sellers/retailers, with seemingly no warehouse stock themselves.

So, hmmm.

Well Target, and Bjs dropped the ps3 completely long ago. it may be just no real point and the sales are poor.

But it could be a sign.
 

RexNovis

Banned
Seems odd guys think 9o to 1oo million ps4s are on lock when theres nothing other than price alone that can extend the ps4s life and boost sales high enough for that to happen.

2o million for the next 3 years wouldnt put it at 9o. And that 2o million for the next 3 years, or more, is unlikely because outside price, the ps4 does not have what the Xbox 36o or the ps2 had. We can pretend it will just keep going at the same rate, but that doesnt really add up.

Uhh PS4 has sold 35.9 million as of January 3rd so if they were to sell 20 million every year for the next three years that would put them at 95 million. So yes. Yes it does, in fact, put it above 90 million. The rest of your post is just as nonsensical as this line (except for the part about WiiU being dead but a broken clock tells time twice and all that) which is pretty damn impressive considering how long it is. So kudos on towing the company line and following the MS PR example to a T.
 

Raist

Banned
WTF, Halo isnt selling badly guys. Halo has legs, is already likely heading toward 3 million, and I think its safe to say it will be over 4 U.S. alone at minimum but likely will sell more for U.S. LTD, Add rest of the world itll be around 8.

Yeah, no chance. And yes, compared to previous entries it's selling like shit.
 
Gears bigger Halo as franchise confirmed then?
I still say Gears will sell better than Halo this gen.

Lol.

Gears will sell better than Halo 5 for a bit but not LTD.

Halo has 3 games released this gen, Gears 4 at its best will sell really well, and likely outset Halo 5 for awhile but unlikely LTD.

Halo was always Legs, 4 excluded, Gears was always instant.
 
Yeah, no chance. And yes, compared to previous entries it's selling like shit.

Dont know what nonsense math your using.

Halo 4 sold very fast than hit a wall.

Already Halo 5 is having the opposite problem, Halo 4 seems to be increasingly getting good passage of voice, through fans and casuals, its getting increasingly good reviews and reception. Its community is not going to die in 5 seconds and fall into the Ocean.

Already Halo is heading around 2 million in the U.S. alone. Anyone can clearly see Halo making it to at minimum 4 million in the U.S. alone. Throw in a likely bundle and price cut later, its even more obvious.

For you to think it cant at least reach 8 doesnt really make much sense unless Halo 5 literally dies after this month. Not happening. Hell, Halo was the only exclusive making any charts this holiday season. Its going to be climbing.
 

RexNovis

Banned
WTF, Halo isnt selling badly guys. Halo has legs, is already likely heading toward 3 million, and I think its safe to say it will be over 4 U.S. alone at minimum but likely will sell more for U.S. LTD, Add rest of the world itll be around 8.

I too enjoy spouting random numbers with no basis in fact. Halo 5 actually created a black hole of human consciousness therefore selling negative 5 billion units and I predict it will creat a MAU feedback loop wherein 1 quintillion imaginary hours will be logged on Xbox live in its lifetime. See isn't this fun?

I wish I could imagine my turning 30 today away... I feel ancient
 
Uhh PS4 has sold 35.9 million as of January 3rd so if they were to sell 20 million every year for the next three years that would put them at 95 million. So yes. Yes it does, in fact, put it above 90 million. The rest of your post is just as nonsensical as this line (except for the part about WiiU being dead but a broken clock tells time twice and all that) which is pretty damn impressive considering how long it is. So kudos on towing the company line and following the MS PR example to a T.

The only part you got me on was math.

Explain what the ps4 has to sell 2o million or more for the next 3 years Ill wait. it has nothing zero.

Whats it going to have as an alternative that helped the ps2, 36o, or ps3...

VR wont do it, its priced to high and its even admitted, in sonys case, to be its own thing.

So whats going to do it, blind faith. Sony won WW, that likely short of a miracle wont change, but lets not pretend Sony has magic fairy dust.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
The only part you got me on was math.

Explain what the ps4 has to sell 2o million or more for the next 3 years Ill wait. it has nothing zero.

Whats it going to have as an alternative that helped the ps2, 36o, or ps3...

VR wont do it, its priced to high and its even admitted, in sonys case, to be its own thing.

So whats going to do it, blind faith. Sony won WW, that likely short of a miracle wont change, but lets not pretend Sony has magic fairy dust.

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I too enjoy spouting random numbers with no basis in fact. Halo 5 actually created a black hole of human consciousness therefore selling negative 5 billion units and I predict it will creat a MAU feedback loop wherein 1 quintillion imaginary hours will be logged on Xbox live in its lifetime. See isn't this fun?

I wish I could imagine my turning 30 today away... I feel ancient

Yeah, ok, lets ignore where Halo is NOW, and the usual Legs Halo has just because you want to I guess.

Oh and you spelled *create* wrong.
 

RexNovis

Banned
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between fact and fiction, and it lies between the pit of man's desires and the summit of his "knowledge". This is the dimension of Tivor Tontomo. It is an area which we call the PR Zone.
 
Dont know what nonsense math your using.

Halo 4 sold very fast than hit a wall.

Already Halo 5 is having the opposite problem, Halo 4 seems to be increasingly getting good passage of voice, through fans and casuals, its getting increasingly good reviews and reception. Its community is not going to die in 5 seconds and fall into the Ocean.

Already Halo is heading around 2 million in the U.S. alone. Anyone can clearly see Halo making it to at minimum 4 million in the U.S. alone. Throw in a likely bundle and price cut later, its even more obvious.

For you to think it cant at least reach 8 doesnt really make much sense unless Halo 5 literally dies after this month. Not happening. Hell, Halo was the only exclusive making any charts this holiday season. Its going to be climbing.

Halo 3, Reach, and 4 already sold 3.3 million in their debut month. Halo 5 is still nowhere near hitting that number after more than 2 months.

There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between fact and fiction, and it lies between the pit of man's desiers and the summit of his "knowledge". This is the dimension of Tivor Tontomo. It is an area which we call the PR Zone.

So are we witnessing someone having a breakdown? xP
 

Rymuth

Member
Passage of Voice just doesn't have the same ring as Word of Mouth™

I'm disappointed. I thought we're witnessing the birth of a new meme...
 
I too enjoy spouting random numbers with no basis in fact. Halo 5 actually created a black hole of human consciousness therefore selling negative 5 billion units and I predict it will creat a MAU feedback loop wherein 1 quintillion imaginary hours will be logged on Xbox live in its lifetime. See isn't this fun?

I wish I could imagine my turning 30 today away... I feel ancient
No shit, Rex...
Happy birthday to us!
Still 16th at your place?
 

Tommy DJ

Member
Halo 5 has some legs, not even getting in the top 10 and all that. Certainly going to reach 8 million, especially with those great worldwide sales making like 4 million.
 
Halo 3, Reach, and 4 already sold 3.3 million in their debut month. Halo 5 is still nowhere near hitting that number after more than 2 months.

That nice and all the Issues is all of those sold over 8 million, and Halo 5 is around over 2 million going by What ive been seeing here. You cant see even a 4 million minimum in the U.S. alone, then ok, but that just seems strange.to me.
 

Raist

Banned
Dont know what nonsense math your using.

Halo 4 sold very fast than hit a wall.

Already Halo 5 is having the opposite problem, Halo 4 seems to be increasingly getting good passage of voice, through fans and casuals, its getting increasingly good reviews and reception. Its community is not going to die in 5 seconds and fall into the Ocean.

Already Halo is heading around 2 million in the U.S. alone. Anyone can clearly see Halo making it to at minimum 4 million in the U.S. alone. Throw in a likely bundle and price cut later, its even more obvious.

For you to think it cant at least reach 8 doesnt really make much sense unless Halo 5 literally dies after this month. Not happening. Hell, Halo was the only exclusive making any charts this holiday season. Its going to be climbing.

Not nonsense math, something called a reality check.

Halo 4 sold over 3M day one and went only selling over 9M LTD.
You're delusional if you think H5 will perform anywhere near 8.
 

RexNovis

Banned
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VR wont do it, its priced to high and its even admitted, in sonys case, to be its own thing.

So whats going to do it, blind faith. Sony won WW, that likely short of a miracle wont change, but lets not pretend Sony has magic fairy dust.

Uhh what magic fairy dust did you use to reveal to you all knowing eyes the pricing for PSVR? Your adoring public demands to know.

I can tell you one thing, no amount of creative writing is going to change the trajectory of XB1 or Halo 5. That ones for free. If you want more of my services to avoid making a complete fool of yourself that'll cost you.
 
Halo 5 has some legs, not even getting in the top 10 and all that. Certainly going to reach 8 million, especially with those great worldwide sales making like 4 million.

Hmm odd I said US 4 million, reading much eh...

Oh and uh, hmm, it DID chart in the top ten last month. The only exclusive to do so for both months put together on the 2 consoles looking at this thread.
 

Shenmue

Banned
Passage of Voice just doesn't have the same ring as Word of Mouth™

I'm disappointed. I thought we're witnessing the birth of a new meme...

There's some possible meme material in there though.

Typing 0s with o's...
Halo was always legs, gears was always instant...
In addition to zero games, playstation has no magic fairy dust...
 

Elandyll

Banned
Tivor is on a roll today, from magic math to Psychic Medium who knows how PSVR will be priced and how Halo 5 will suddenly explode WW in sales ...

What a man.

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That nice and all the Issues is all of those sold over 8 million, and Halo 5 is around over 2 million going by What ive been seeing here. You cant see even a 4 million minimum in the U.S. alone, then ok, but that just seems strange.to me.

Did you know that Halo 4 finished as the 3rd most selling game in the US in 2012? Meanwhile, Halo 5 didn't even sniff the 2015 Top 10. In addition, the holiday season is over, so it's going to take a while for Halo 5 to sell as much as its predecessors' debut months.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Seems odd guys think 9o to 1oo million ps4s are on lock when theres nothing other than price alone that can extend the ps4s life and boost sales high enough for that to happen.

2o million for the next 3 years wouldnt put it at 9o. And that 2o million for the next 3 years, or more, is unlikely because outside price, the ps4 does not have what the Xbox 36o or the ps2 had. We can pretend it will just keep going at the same rate, but that doesnt really add up.

Is this entire post sarcasm? If I ask "what does the Xbox 360 or PS2 have that PS4 doesn't", would you give a joke response or something serious?

PS4 is trending much higher than 360. PS2 was a phenomenon and ended up selling significantly more than merely 100 million - it's over 150million now. And still PS4 isn't trending terribly far behind that at the moment (although it will never match PS2 sales lifetime without some truly deep price cutting over its life and if VR becomes a Kinect-or-bigger like phenomenon for at least the life of the system).

90 million is pretty much without a doubt a lock, and 100 million has easily better than 50/50 odds.

Also the Xbox One has a chance U.S. wise to win even in the first 6 months of the year.

The Xbox One is going into 2o16 in a better position than it was going into 2o15. the main reason why some are doubting is the Holiday sales.

You're making a real argument right now that in the first six months of 2016, the XBO is going to outsell the PS4 in the US to the order of >>> 800,000 units? Or just that it will sell better in that six month period than the PS4 will? Neither scenario is going to happen. This first six months for PS4 is quite packed - Uncharted 4, Street Fighter V, No Man's Sky, Ratchet and Clank and a bevy of third party titles which have fairly consistently been shown to typically sell more on PS4. The big titles for XBO in this timeframe are Quantum Break, maybe Fable Legends and if I'm being generous they have a marketing deal with Division. I'm looking through the release schedule right now and can't even hazard any other big Microsoft specific titles in that period, but if I missed one I apologize as it wasn't intentional. After that it's the same third party games PS4 has.

I mean even subjectively, it's pretty easy to know which of these two lineups in the first six months are likely to sell better. No matter which lineup we prefer quality-wise.

I mean outside those two games, the Xbox one barely had a 3rd of what gave it the win last year, not even half, and it still was relatively close with record breaking sales that were higher.

This year the Xbox One has a subjective review and preview wise, higher assortment of anticipated games starting in the first half of the year, going into the holidays. Along with another possible price drop, an arguably, depending on the final release dates, a better exclusive and Tp line up, then this holiday as well.

That's funny considering the constant refrain from hardcore Xbox One fans were that the PS4 had no gamez, and the XBO had them all. Are we at the revisionist history phase of the debate?

I don't even know how you qualified the second part of your argument. So I'm just going to say it's bullshit and move on.

The line up this year outside Halo and Gears, which just took the place of Halo MCC and ACU partially was garbage on both sides, the Tp was shaky, and a lot of it went to Fall out, COD, and SW and not much else. SW being the one to invest in, and Sony getting that deal likely made up partially for their lack luster line up of exclusives. A very good deal.

Oh so it was Star Wars that allowed Sony's even worse PS4 lineup outclass XBO. I bet you didn't know PS4 had more exclusives, more higher rated games and sold more third party software than XBO did last year too. Objectively, not subjectively.

But hey, at least that's consistent!
 
That nice and all the Issues is all of those sold over 8 million, and Halo 5 is around over 2 million going by What ive been seeing here. You cant see even a 4 million minimum in the U.S. alone, then ok, but that just seems strange.to me.

It's not over 2 million retail. Maybe with digital but that's iffy since we don't know the numbers for December. Retail copies is less then < 1.9 million (if you assume Halo 5 was at #11) at the high end I but it's likely to be much lower then that.

Tbh, I'm not really seeing the legs that you're seeing.
 
Uhh what magic fairy dust did you use to reveal to you all knowing eyes the pricing for PSVR? Your adoring public demands to know.

I can tell you one thing, no amount of creative writing is going to change the trajectory of XB1 or Halo 5. That ones for free. If you want more of my services to avoid making a complete fool of yourself that'll cost you.

What does the ps4 have to do with the trajectory of the Xbox One, those are 2 different conversations. i think you may have misread somewhere and though i was biased or something, which likely means you are.

Anyway on the ps4 subject in terms of VR costs

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/we...how-much-the-playstation-vr-will-cost-1304612


While Sony this week renamed it's virtual reality offering from Project Morpheus to an uninspired PlayStation VR, it has also hinted at what the VR system may end up costing as well.

Speaking to Bloomberg, Sony Entertainment's CEO Andrew House didn't exactly reveal any firm numbers, but he did say that the PlayStation VR will carry a similar price tag as a new gaming platform when it launches next year.

If we go off of Sony's pricing of the PlayStation 4 when it first released in 2013, we could be looking at about US$400 for the PlayStation VR.


But I guess Sony themselves are fairy dust to you....
 
It's not over 2 million retail. Maybe with digital but that's iffy since we don't know the numbers for December. Retail copies is less then < 1.9 million (if you assume Halo 5 was at #11) at the high end I but it's likely to be much lower then that.

Tbh, I'm not really seeing the legs that you're seeing.

I suspect sooner rather than later Microsoft will stick it in a more reasonably priced bundle. Rather than pushing Quantum Break a lot (which they should definitely do) they will probably just stick Halo 5 in and push that for 6 months or so
 
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