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NPD Sales Results for February 2012 [Up 3: Kingdoms Of Amalur, Syndicate, Asura]
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The Antitype
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A) The game came out the last week of Feb. It could still crack the top ten next month. Doubtful though.
B) It was a surprise launch. They announced the thing like 2 months before they released it, and there was almost no hype. This was a marketing fail if they were indeed looking for massive numbers.
C) Syndicate is a fucking awesome shooter.
LiquidMetal14
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Of course. But that is a decent barometer but obviously not raw data.
The Emperor
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When we call XIII-2 a bomba we don't mean it financially but more in the sense of how unbelievably poorly it has done
It's price seems to be dropping fast everywhere, I picked it up from play.com for £17 this week.
Doubt it's true. Otherwise Nintendo would have said the 3DS was still the best selling portable console.
Petrae
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Probably as close as we're going to get officially.
4 days of sales. That's the minimum amount too since it's math based on hardware sales that misses the PSP (which had a price cut in Feb. 2011 IIRC) and the PS2.
Edit: PSP price cut happened in late Feb so its effect would be felt in March. Ignore that.
LiquidMetal14
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Of course. That isn't what I'm debating but you got some of it. PS3 and 360 had a good HW month.
UberTag
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FFXIII in Japan --> Week 1 Sales = 1.5 Million
FFXIII-2 in Japan --> Week 1 Sales = 524,217
Total % drop = 65.1%
FFXIII in North America --> Month 1 Sales = 1.32 Million
FFXIII-2 in North America --> Month 1 Sales = ~330-340K
Total % drop = 74.7%
3DS Launch Month --> 398K
Vita Launch Month --> ~218K
Vita hardware estimates seem about right all things considered.
FFXIII-2 in Japan --> Week 1 Sales = 524,217
Total % drop = 65.1%
FFXIII in North America --> Month 1 Sales = 1.32 Million
FFXIII-2 in North America --> Month 1 Sales = ~330-340K
Total % drop = 74.7%
3DS Launch Month --> 398K
Vita Launch Month --> ~218K
Vita hardware estimates seem about right all things considered.
Sammy Samusu
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Actually, 11 days of sales, including the First Edition Bundle.
And 3DS sold 400k in seven days.
But we should wait for official numbers before calling it a "big bomb".
maabus1999
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Yeah I updated with an assumption to help create a more realistic VITA sale number. See previous post.
Now with 4 days of sales, if anyone has any idea on what pre-orders were for the VITA (I assume they do pre-orders for hardware?), then we can extrapolate daily sales and can at least predict a weekly sales rate.
outunderthestars
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Awe. Posts like these make me nostalgic for the old NPD days of console warriors and epic meltdowns.
I know you're too busy trying to defend Revelations and Capcom's honour and all but:
Anita Frazier said:
Reading, how does it work?
That is not a good launch.
We don't need to know PS2 sales; we know that Xbox's sales this month were 42% of the total console sales, so we can extrapolate from that all the *console* sales this month. Don't need to know the breakdown to use that stat.
PSP I'll admit we don't know... although can we estimate it to a reasonable level?
Petrae
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I don't think finishing below 3DS is necessarily a "bomb", even in a launch month.
The unit is perceived as expensive, especially with the proprietary memory cards. Nintendo strategically cut the price of the 3DS in certain retailers to spike interest just before Vita hit. You also have to consider that the market is more splintered now than it was a year ago. Tablets are a force now, and iOS continues to peck away at potential consumers.
I think it's a low number, but not a complete bomb-- especially for only part of the month.
BassForever
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If only we can swap FFXIII sales with FFXIII-2's sales cause XIII-2 deserves the sales and XIII didn't.
Sad to see Revelations doing poorly in the US, I haven't really looked but were copies hard to find due to smaller shipments from the Revelaiton issue? Hopefully it'll be a slow burner as more people pick up 3DS and get the game later on.
Sad to see Revelations doing poorly in the US, I haven't really looked but were copies hard to find due to smaller shipments from the Revelaiton issue? Hopefully it'll be a slow burner as more people pick up 3DS and get the game later on.
Principate
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Nintendo seems to forget to mention an awful of lot of positive things though even then it seems unlikely they'd forget to mention something like that. Either that or they tried not to be harsh.
Psychotext
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Nicely done.
Microsoft only talks of current generation consoles, though.
Awe. Posts like these make me nostalgic for the old NPD days of console warriors and epic meltdowns.
NPD is dull now. Kutaragi and Peter Moore need to helm their old battle stations once again.
:/
The same Nintendo who offered a bunch of retailer incentives during Vita's launch week is suddenly going to feel very sympathetic?
Petrae
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It's not a resounding success, but not a "bomb", I don't think. Definitely lower than many thought, especially in light of recent extrapolations. I was a bit surprised to see the low number, but not shocked.
We'll probably have to wait for Vita's first full month to get a good look at how it's doing. The full launch of the system only had
EDIT: Beaten. And I can't count.
Colonel Mustard
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Aggressive marketing and outright slamming their competition in a press release are two completely different things.
outunderthestars
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I think that the Vita is doomed to be a niche product, especially in the US. I finally saw one in the wild on campus this week.
RukusProvider
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The next few months will tell the story. The hardcore gamers and Sony fans will jump on it initially and then it's mindshare in the mass market will determine longevity (in the US). Then again, the ipad 3 comes out next week, sooooo.....
Clear
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Given that I'd expect XIII-2 to have performed somewhat better in Europe than NA (higher PS3 ownership, less competition) I'd imagine SE are looking at what, 1.5m globally?
I've got to be honest and say that'll probably be tidily profitable for them, especially with the DLC. There's no way that XIII-2 had more than a third of the original's budget, and given that's pretty much what it's sold. I would not be surprised at all to see XIII-3 announced at some point.
I've got to be honest and say that'll probably be tidily profitable for them, especially with the DLC. There's no way that XIII-2 had more than a third of the original's budget, and given that's pretty much what it's sold. I would not be surprised at all to see XIII-3 announced at some point.
How exactly are the FEB numbers counted then? Are they at all? This is kinda weird.
I dunno, do you expect the Vita at $250 to hold up better in the coming months than the 3DS at $250 did with no competition?
Sammy Samusu
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So First Bundle Edition doesn't exist? And why are you so bitter. LOL
Though I guess the implication is that the FEB bundles are included in the 4 days anyway. Well, at least one might assume. Since it was 4 days of the actual launch and the bundles that were released a week earlier. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense; unless they count it as something separate.
FEBs were seemingly only sold via preorders so I'm guessing that's why those days aren't counted.
BassForever
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Except normally hardware sells fast out the gate then slows down, if we're assuming around 218k for the 3 days plus pre-orderes, I feel it'll probably do similar numbers next month and only drop from their unless a price drop or big title comes out.
gaming_noob
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360 only sold 70k more than PS3. The gap is definitely getting smaller moving into the sixth year of PS3.
FEB are counted
AndrewDean84xX
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So this NPD ended on Februaury 18? Didn't the Vita first launch on 2/14/12? Some stores still have first edition bundles on the shelves.
That seems crazy. Really wish we had some official numbers and an explanation as to how FEBs were counted.
outunderthestars
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Okay, so that's weird. I'll stick with the whole "It was preorder only and thus wasn't counted as a sales day" thing.
Even counting those, we can't say that the unit was on sale for 11 days (4 post-launch and7 pre-launch) since we don't know how many FEB units were allocated for the pre-launch. It's not like the console was readily available for purchase pre-launch.
I decided to break this down a little more. Why? I don't know.
Code:
Jan Feb Change
Nintendo (all) 398k 625k
Xbox 360 270k 426k
PlayStation 3 190k 360k
PS2 + PSP 35k 35k
PS Vita 0k 225k
Total (no Vita) 893k 1446k +62%
Total (w/ Vita) 893k 1671k +87%SUPER LATE EDIT: touched up the numbers ... for fun. This time assuming PS2 + PSP sales were equal.
Petrae
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PS3 actually has the best YOY console hardware comparison numbers so far this year. PS3 fared better than I thought it would, in fact. We'll see if the trend carries over into March.