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NPD Sales Results for July 2009
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MikeE21286 said:
It's 2D Mario, so it's familiar to people who have played the game before (just try handing someone a modern controller and see if they can navigate a 3D world right off the bat), and it has multiplayer, so it's got the social aspect that makes the Wii's best sellers best sellers.
Ultimo hombre said:
This fall is definitely going to hit the music genre really hard. Activision already knows this which is probably why they included GHVH free with GH5 to pad GH5 sales. They know full well GHVH is going to bomb since GH:SHits sold poorly.
I think Beatles:RB is going to sell decently but no where near what GH3 or RB1 did in numbers. As for Lego:RB, isn't that next year?
I still think DJ Hero is going to surprise everybody and sell pretty well. What I think will help DJ Hero is the fact that its something new where as GH/RB has been relatively the same for the last two years.
Stoney Mason
Banned
Jtyettis said:
Some crazy guys on this board have this odd belief that the "incredible" PS3 lineup will power the PS3 this fall and the "weak" 360 software lineup will cause it to decline or be flat. I have no idea where this logic springs from. Every fall PS3 fanboys think they have a mega line-up and it almost never translates into actual blockbuster sales. Looking at this Fall I see nothing to change that.
Shake Appeal
Member
The best thing is that every year is the year of the PS3.minx88 said:
GameplayWhore
Member
I took a look at the charts I put together for fun every month....
NPD Normalized and Aligned to PS2
...and unless there's a major cock-up in my numbers, this month is the second in a row where the Wii is selling less than the PS2 in an equivalent time frame, since almost a year and a half ago. If anything, that's a reason to think that drastic measures may be required soon.
Granted, I think that NSMB could be acceptably drastic, but the next couple months may be pretty depressing for the N-fan. Dead Space: Extraction could help a little against the downslide, I guess, but I'd be pretty shocked if it did anything really substantial.
Edit: Above analysis erroneous due to misaligned numbers. Chart updated since then, but ignore my driving point of the post. Happy that I didn't make a ban bet of any kind based on this stuff in my first NPD post. :O
EditEdit: Just to clarify, I'm missing NPD numbers from Oct'00 to Oct'01 for the PS2¸ so the chart was treating 2001 as the PS2's first year. An updated analysis is that this is the second month in a row where Wii is selling less than the PS2 in an equivalent time frame. The only other times in this chart that it has done so before were last December (corresponding to 2002-12 for the PS2), the June before it (to 2002-06 for PS2), then the January and December before that. Hah. Much less telling in that case. Ah well.
NPD Normalized and Aligned to PS2
...and unless there's a major cock-up in my numbers, this month is the second in a row where the Wii is selling less than the PS2 in an equivalent time frame, since almost a year and a half ago. If anything, that's a reason to think that drastic measures may be required soon.
Granted, I think that NSMB could be acceptably drastic, but the next couple months may be pretty depressing for the N-fan. Dead Space: Extraction could help a little against the downslide, I guess, but I'd be pretty shocked if it did anything really substantial.
Edit: Above analysis erroneous due to misaligned numbers. Chart updated since then, but ignore my driving point of the post. Happy that I didn't make a ban bet of any kind based on this stuff in my first NPD post. :O
EditEdit: Just to clarify, I'm missing NPD numbers from Oct'00 to Oct'01 for the PS2¸ so the chart was treating 2001 as the PS2's first year. An updated analysis is that this is the second month in a row where Wii is selling less than the PS2 in an equivalent time frame. The only other times in this chart that it has done so before were last December (corresponding to 2002-12 for the PS2), the June before it (to 2002-06 for PS2), then the January and December before that. Hah. Much less telling in that case. Ah well.
MikeE21286
Member
AniHawk said:
well it'll be interesting to see what happens nonetheless....we all obviously have our opinions on the matter.
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GeoramA said:
Extrapolating this out for actual retail releases the hardcore could really be getting 1 whole game all summer. I repeat 1 GAME ALL SUMMER, and that would be Batman. So unless your a football fan or bought WSR for mp fun and the mp+ it's been ridiculously boring on the retail front.
My god Sept. and the release of Halo ODST along with Aion can't get here fast enough. If we didn't have BF 1943 + the Summer of Arcade I might have forgotten I own a console or a handheld with no real reason to turn mine on game wise.
TheKingsCrown
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So the 10 months where it sold more don't count for anything?GameplayWhore said:I took a look at the charts I put together for fun every month....
NPD Normalized and Aligned to PS2
...and unless there's a major cock-up in my numbers, this month is the second in a row where the Wii is selling less than the PS2 in an equivalent time frame, since almost a year and a half ago. If anything, that's a reason to think that drastic measures may be required soon.
Granted, I think that NSMB could be acceptably drastic, but the next couple months may be pretty depressing for the N-fan. Dead Space: Extraction could help a little against the downslide, I guess, but I'd be pretty shocked if it did anything really substantial.
Karma said:
Yea I saw some analyst with a 225 estimate IIRC. I thought that was way overboard though.
Stoney Mason said:
Well I've gone back and forth on the SW side, but honestly it is looking pretty even atm. Had SCC stayed in the holiday window it would have been stronger imo. Still PS3 has some good SW lined up this fall between U2 and the rest.
szaromir said:
Well of course it is getting a price cut on the higher end and depending on if they do a fire sale dependent on stock a $250 pro could be a very nice thing for sales as well. Time will tell though. I'm not so sure they are going to break any records for themselves like last year, but I'm certain they will do well if they push that value message with good bundles. Had they came off the arcade by $20 that would have helped even more (heck putting 20GB HDD in there would do wonders at that price).
Arpharmd B
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stupei said:
I'm willing to bet it fails hard, both bundle and stand alone game.
I really fail to see people in my age and below giving a shit about the Beatles (25 and under). I'm not trying to troll Beatles fans, they are a great band but, I just don't see this crazy mass appeal the Beatles are going to have to the younger (and I use that term very broadly) audience that is still playing with toy instruments.
But hey, I could be wrong.
And hey 2.0, at least it will sell better than GH:Van Halen.
WasteLand Soldier
Banned
Karma said:
this. i mean at this point the slim HAS to be $299 if sony wants a chance at all. the only way i see the slim being 299 is due to desparation and these year over year decreases are basically pushing it toward go all in or go home territory. sheesh.
I dunno, 4P concurrent multiplayer platform games are kind of an untested market, it's going to be quite an undertaking to make people of different skill levels not end up getting frustrated with one another. And I think either way there's going to be a lot of backlash from people going in expecting a single-player platformer and getting a pseudo-party game. I could easily see it becoming a Four Swords type of niche curio.pvpness said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8199791.stm <--- This is what could save the videogames, a game about swine flu
KuwabaraTheMan
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MikeE21286 said:
Notice that 2006 game in the Top 10 this month. What game is that again?
MikeE21286
Member
Jtyettis said:
Yeah, I saw one too quoting 200k+...citing the best buy $399 mgs4/KZ2 bundle and the $449 amazon price drop on the 160 gb uncharted bundle
Nintendo isn't dropping price nor do they need to. All you have to do is look a few spots down to see that NSMB and MKDS are still selling DSs. It's been how many years and people are still neglecting the Nintendo slow burn?
Seriously, the moment Nintendo gives into the FUD then they get sucked into the same downward spiral MS and Sony are in trying to desperately reconfigure and slash prices just to keep their head above water.
Seriously, the moment Nintendo gives into the FUD then they get sucked into the same downward spiral MS and Sony are in trying to desperately reconfigure and slash prices just to keep their head above water.
SilverLunar
Member
For one thing a 2D Mario ALWAYS out-sells a 3D Mario, ALWAYS.MikeE21286 said:
Stoney Mason
Banned
Cruzader said:
This fall the final shoe will drop. And "Wait for Price Drop" will be removed from the equation. Sales will pick up. We will see to what degree.
MikeE21286
Member
KuwabaraTheMan said:
There are a lot of different arguments that I can make against comparing NSMB Wii and NSMB DS. I'd rather just see how it plays out in the end (much less exhaustive). If I'm wrong or right then that's how it is.
Are you counting me as a PS3 fanboy? I don't think 360's lineup is weak by any accounts, it's just at this point there are no obvious system sellers. Of all the "huge" 360 games, ODST is an add-on to Halo 3, Gay Tony to GTA4, FM3 sequel to FM2, MW2 to COD4, AC2 to AC and so on, all of which already had at least one iteration on 360. Going forward this year, I think only Wii has a system seller in NSMB form (or perhaps Wii Sports Resort will get more momentum as well).Stoney Mason said:
WrathOfOtaibah
Banned
lolz
This was a pretty slow month overall for system hardware sales.
360 remains steady. Down 2,000 over last year and the sales are about 200,000. Not much to get excited about but they should be fortunate that they're not suffering from huge yoy drops or consistent yoy drops.
The Wii is dropping because supply hit demand a few months back. Wiis are everywhere on store shelves. Now that it is no longer the shit hot new toy, sales are lowering back down to normal. Sure, sales are down 300,000 from the previous year but sales were always going to drop back to normal. It has hit this point.
PS3...see me after class
This was a pretty slow month overall for system hardware sales.
360 remains steady. Down 2,000 over last year and the sales are about 200,000. Not much to get excited about but they should be fortunate that they're not suffering from huge yoy drops or consistent yoy drops.
The Wii is dropping because supply hit demand a few months back. Wiis are everywhere on store shelves. Now that it is no longer the shit hot new toy, sales are lowering back down to normal. Sure, sales are down 300,000 from the previous year but sales were always going to drop back to normal. It has hit this point.
PS3...see me after class
boiled goose
good with gravy
AniHawk said:
ouch
was never going to do amazing, but it definitely came out at the wrong time....
a dead summer with decreasing wii sales.
will pick it up soon.
Somnid said:
I think this is the last year you'll see the Wii priced at $249.99. They don't need to drop the price, but people are obviously losing interest (in that it's not insanely or even PS2-levels of popular). A price drop doesn't always hurt, either. It has helped out Microsoft tremendously this year (although $300 is what the maximum for a system should have always been).
Ultimo hombre
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Stoney Mason said:
If the sales don't pick up, they'll just pick up the goal posts and move them as needed. Something along the lines of "it's doing great at $xxx! And wait until *these exclusvies* hit, then you'll see it take off." Same shit, different month man.
MikeE21286
Member
SilverLunar said:
has 2d Mario ever been on a the same platform as 3D Mario?....just sayin'....
and for that fact.....has 2d mario ever been on a home console since the first 3d mario?
Again, it's all speculative
boiled goose
good with gravy
what about?
conduits second month?
TW10 wii second month?
GST second month?
prototype, red faction, infamous?
conduits second month?
TW10 wii second month?
GST second month?
prototype, red faction, infamous?
Minsc
Gold Member
Touchdown said:Down by 2000 is still down.
You're right, but technically it's only down according to NPD, the % difference falls outside of NPD's margin of error (afaik NPD is not accurate to within 1%), so it may not actually be down. /nitpick
Since they all use NPD for their press releases though and this is a NPD thread, I agree it's correct to say they're down, even though it's by such a tiny amount.