Arrowgigantic
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So does NPD not give out the chart past the Top 20?
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NPD Sales Results For June 2010
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Dreams-Visions
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good job, Microsoft.
still, you need to pick up your 1st party software lineup quality. it's slipped.
still, you need to pick up your 1st party software lineup quality. it's slipped.
OldJadedGamer
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Dreams-Visions said:
Why does it matter if they have the best selling console and third party titles are selling like gang busters? They make money off every game sold to the system regardless of if it's first or third.
That can has been open a long time, and even if it were closed I don't see why that would matter when we're talking about ports of handheld games to a console DD service. Reducing the price of a ported handheld game doesn't necessarily say anything abut the budget since the trade-off to the DD buyer is resale and portability.The_Technomancer said:
OldJadedGamer
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Boney said:
Did you miss the first post of the thread?
SlipperySlope
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OldJadedGamer said:
It's only temporary. It took quite a bit of muscling last month to get that #.
It's pretty handy (and I'd argue crucial) for a 1st party to have a strong stable of recognizable IP in order to promote a new console and provide assurance for early buyers that some quality software will appear. MS could use more IP, too, particularly family-friendly stuff (that they don't try once or twice and then abandon) which could be used in a variety of game types, much like how Nintendo and Sega exploit their main IP (although ideally not exactly like Sega).OldJadedGamer said:
Stumpokapow
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Zachack said:
On a related note, it's pretty clear consoles are going to have to figure out how to brand and identify the kind of $20-40 range of digital titles. I do think they need a separate branding from Arcade/Regular PSN games, because I think there's room for them, but no one has quite figured them out. Hydrophobia--the first third of which will be released on XBL this summer for $15--is an example of an upcoming title that's going to fall into this gap.
OldJadedGamer
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azentium said:
Yeah, considering this thread is about June NPD numbers I thought that was a given. I guess I could have clarified.
Zachack said:
The 360 will be 5 years old in a few months. I agree that new systems need exclusive first party games but we are so deep into this gen sales numbers are showing that it's mattering less and less. I'm not saying it totally doesn't matter but I think it matters a lot less than people make it out to be.
On MS' end I think they just need to expand Games On Demand (the name is not too bad and budget new/discounted old games could live together) and fix the mess that is the Games Marketplace. I liked some of the changes NXE brought but it also made some changes for the worse (not like the blades were much better, though). That browser app for Summer of Arcade looks like a good step in the right direction, too bad it's temporary.Stumpokapow said:
Oh man it is somewhat depressing to think the 360 is coming up on five years and is still $299 with no successor console in sight.
I know most of you don't want a new console but I really want one which can get me 1080P gaming at near 60fps. At least I can usually get this out of the digital games.
I know most of you don't want a new console but I really want one which can get me 1080P gaming at near 60fps. At least I can usually get this out of the digital games.
SimpleDesign
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Just hook your PC up to your TV and pretend it's your very own custom game console!Mrbob said:
Seriously though look at how big the 360 and PS3 still are. Now just imagine what a console coming out this year (that's a generation a head of current hardware) would look like. Not to mention the damn price.
OldJadedGamer
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Mrbob said:
Entry price is $199 but it should be lowered to $150 if they want to move a lot of units come Xmas time. I think September 2008 was the last price drop which is just plain silly. I think I'm ready for a new system but as you said, no where in sight.
Megadragon15
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You know what is even more depressing. Both Move and Kinect will bump up the price of the PS3 and 360 another hundred dollars this fall/winter.Mrbob said:
SimpleDesign
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The 4GB Arcade will probably launch for $199 and then have a price drop when Kinect comes out. Kinect Arcade Bundle for $299, maybe with a game or two. Which still seems too high considering the audience they're going for, but then again people are willing to pay $500 for phones so what the hell do I know.OldJadedGamer said:
WickedLaharl
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wth at transformers.
i figured it sold way less then that because of the low online numbers for MP.
guess it sold mostly for its single player?
i figured it sold way less then that because of the low online numbers for MP.
guess it sold mostly for its single player?
I'm already gaming 1080P on my PC, no worries there. 
Borderlands is so nice at 1080P and 60fps...sometimes I use a wired 360 controller to play it as well. This is why I also want it on consoles but I am getting close to building a HTPC since I don't see a new system in sight. It isn't a deal breaker for me since I'll still game on 360 and PS3 regardless, but I wouldn't mind an option for a bit more.
I really don't want a new generation of consoles either. Since everyone is trading in their consoles for new ones like suggested, why not make a "super" console of sorts. Games look exactly the same, but can run a better on the "super" system. Developers already have to take this into account with a PC version of a game in a multi platform release....why not extend it to consoles? You can have two different versions of the same game. One the baseline version and then one the "super" version. I think this would be more of an incentive to upgrade your system, and then those who do not want to upgrade are not left out as they can still play the game.
Edit: Oh here we go the anticipation for PW numbers!
Borderlands is so nice at 1080P and 60fps...sometimes I use a wired 360 controller to play it as well. This is why I also want it on consoles but I am getting close to building a HTPC since I don't see a new system in sight. It isn't a deal breaker for me since I'll still game on 360 and PS3 regardless, but I wouldn't mind an option for a bit more.I really don't want a new generation of consoles either. Since everyone is trading in their consoles for new ones like suggested, why not make a "super" console of sorts. Games look exactly the same, but can run a better on the "super" system. Developers already have to take this into account with a PC version of a game in a multi platform release....why not extend it to consoles? You can have two different versions of the same game. One the baseline version and then one the "super" version. I think this would be more of an incentive to upgrade your system, and then those who do not want to upgrade are not left out as they can still play the game.
Edit: Oh here we go the anticipation for PW numbers!
SimpleDesign
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I still think that's a good idea, last time I brought it up I was chewed out though.Mrbob said:
Mrbob said:I'm already gaming 1080P on my PC, no worries there.
I really don't want a new generation of consoles either. Since everyone is trading in their consoles for new ones like suggested, why not make a "super" console of sorts. Games look exactly the same, but can run a better on the "super" system. Developers already have to take this into account with a PC version of a game in a multi platform release....why not extend it to consoles? You can have two different versions of the same game. One the baseline version and then one the "super" version. I think this would be more of an incentive to upgrade your system, and then those who do not want to upgrade are not left out as they can still play the game.
Edit: Oh here we go the anticipation for PW numbers!
That's what some here have speculated about the Wii successor. A PS360+ hardware that has the "superior" version of 3rd party games.
Massa said:
You can play the whole stinking game by yourself with no problems whatsoever. This idea that MGS Peace Walker is an inaccessible Japan-centric online co-op game is silly.
ElFly said:
Of course. It's the most feature-rich Halo game yet and a direct prequel to the original Halo.
SlipperySlope said:
This would make some sense...I found it a little odd that they would want to port MGS3. Maybe it's subterfuge (and we'll get both!)
SlipperySlope
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Reilly said:
I'll throw out a totally random guess. 50K.
Gamer @ Heart
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SlipperySlope said:
73k
DangerousDave
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OldJadedGamer said:
Well, they're the best selling console the month that they reduced the price for the old model and launched a new slim model, and in the country where the brand is located.
Yeah, that's great for Microsoft, but the units sold are not something really impressive if we care about the context.
They need urgently a good first party lineup.
I know that here we're discussing about NPD numbers, not worldwide, but the "first party games doesn't matter, look the numbers" argument is not very convincing.
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
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Gamer @ Heart said:
My guess is 85k.
Leon S. Kennedy
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JaxJag said:
I like Uncharted 2 and LBP a lot more than any of the 360 exclusives (except Banjo Kazooie. I loved that game).
I guess 50k for Peace Walker. A shame it can't even sell as well as DS games that have been out for years and have already sold millions of copies.
OldJadedGamer
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donny2112 said:
True dat, $299 is the cost of entry right now.
DMeisterJ said:
We've been down this road a million times. I personally think that only first party games are ones that are made by studios owned by the console maker but every time I bring it up I'm quickly told that when a console maker funds and publishes a third party game then it's considered a first party title. Gears falls under this distinction.
mujun said:
I have all the systems. To me, there is no such thing as an exclusive but this is a sales thread and I'm thinking of it from a sales point of view.
DangerousDave
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JaxJag said:
Well, it's better to keep this discussion to a more apropiate thread.