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[ZSaberLink]

So MK8 LTD in the US is already greater than 3D World's US LTD?

The last 3D World US LTD we got was around 770K in May. I assume it sold decently this month thanks to MK8 though, so that number is likely higher. DKC sold like 35K this month if I'm not mistaken since it was around 250K last month?

 

[SwiftDeath]

So, if we combine May+June we had almost 2 PS4 sold for every Xbone, right?
Considering that the Xbone got a $100 price cut and the US is their main
market, if I were MS I'd be very worried, desperate even.

PS4 US May + June Sales = 197k + 269K = 466k [51.8K Weekly Sales]
XB1 US May + June Sales = 77K + 197K = 274k [30.4K Weekly Sales]

So on a week by week basis, PS4 outsold XB1 by 70% over May and June on average

I think I did the math right?

 

[Aquamarine]

Nothing really. MK8 is supposed to carry them through the next couple of months.

There's the retail release of Wii Sports Club on July 25th...but we all know how "successful" the retail release of Wii Fit was.

That is not good, people completely abandoned "Wii" anything, maybe if Nintendo was not so damn stubborn that could see new life on mobile devices.

July's NPD for Wii U will not be pretty as Mario kart 8 winds down momentum. Hopefully it still creates more sales then in May.

I mean, Mario Kart 8 will undoubtedly be down from the 400K it sold this month + Wii U will be down from 140K, but I'm not quite sure that Wii U will crater next month. The game has had quite a positive effect on Nintendo's short-term domestic profit and influence and its legs might help the Wii U sustain that effect.

Let's wait for the full month to finish before making any concrete sales conclusions for July.

 

[Bitanator]

You are right, just nice seeing a game actually have an effect on the Wii U.

 

[BuggeryBugz]

Do we have any estimates on worldwide lifetime numbers for PS4, XB1 and the Wii U?

 

[SwiftDeath]

Do we have any estimates on worldwide lifetime numbers for PS4, XB1 and the Wii U?

I could make some up for PS4 and XB1 if you'd like but they'll be wholly inaccurate

 

[Aquamarine]

Do we have any estimates on worldwide lifetime numbers for PS4, XB1 and the Wii U?

We'll get an update on Xbox One lifetime sales to retailers (as of June 30th) on July 22nd, and an update on Wii U lifetime sales to retailers (as of June 30th) on July 30th.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I'm sure they could compete, but it would probably require a dramatic change in approach. I've noticed this common refrain amongst many people (And I"m not trying to single you out here, it's a broader observation than that), suggesting that there is nothing console manufacturers can possibly do to stop the contraction and that nothing about home consoles can plausibly be changed.

That seems clearly silly to me. We have immediate, ample evidence that home consoles can attract these consumers; the Wii did a very good job of it just last generation. It's possible. It would probably require some real creative thinking, but I think a lot of gamers are quick to say it's not possible in part because they're sort of happy not having the console manufacturers catering to consumers who aren't them. That isn't intended to be accusatory -- who doesn't want corporations catering to them -- it's only intended as an observation.

The problem is your saying the Wii it did so others can but almost 10 years has gone by since then and the market has change by a huge amount .
Any thing Sony could have done is already being done by other companies for eg doing a cheaper\ lower spec system would have not work because others doing that already .
PS4 can't compete vs Apple and Google because it's not hardware vs hardware, it's hardware vs OS.

 

[Game Guru]

I'm actually not sure Apple or Google actually won over the casual gamers... At least, those casual gamers willing to part with their money. What Apple and Google have seemingly won with mobile is a separate hardcore fanbase who spends all their money on microtransactions which ends up, by proxy, paying for everyone else's games.

Grandma Casual might be playing Candy Crush Saga, but she's not paying for it. Instead, it's Mr. Whale who is addicted to Candy Crush Saga and paying most of his paycheck towards it.

 

[AniHawk]

I mean, Mario Kart 8 will undoubtedly be down from the 400K it sold this month + Wii U will be down from 140K, but I'm not quite sure that Wii U will crater next month. The game has had quite a positive effect on Nintendo's short-term domestic profit and influence and its legs might help the Wii U sustain that effect.

Let's wait for the full month to finish before making any concrete sales conclusions for July.

i know nothing about marketing but if i was nintendo i would have capitalized on this whole mario kart 8 thing with a new commercial also showcasing games available for the rest of the year.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

i know nothing about marketing but if i was nintendo i would have capitalized on this whole mario kart 8 thing with a new commercial also showcasing games available for the rest of the year.

They never do this and I'm always unsure why.

Last year with 3D World, they should have found a way to mention MK8 and Smash Bros. are coming in 2014. They're repeating the same mistake again.

 

[Man]

PS4 is pretty much guaranteed to be the best-selling platform until October.

That month MS has some chance of winning due to the co-marketing and exclusive beta [?] for Alien Isolation and Evolve combined with Sunset Overdrive. Not to mention that FH2 is slatted for end of September

I'm not particularly convinced they will win the month but it is at least partially in contention.

November is also in contention due to COD and HMCC but again I'm not convinced how likely that outcome is.

That all being said, I wouldn't completely discount XB1's chances this holidays as anything is possible

Agree with all of this except that I don't believe much in those titles helping to push consoles. 'Another month, another handful of good games' releases but certainly not anything hyped like Titanfall (and that ended up having minimal effect in an otherwise quiet period). Alien Isolation & Evolve will play/perform better on the superior hardware as well.

I'm betting GTA5 'remastered' edition will sell more than those three combined.

 

[SwiftDeath]

Agree with all of this except that I don't believe much in those titles helping to push consoles. 'Another month, another handful of good games' releases but certainly not anything hyped like Titanfall (and that ended up having minimal effect in an otherwise quiet period). Alien Isolation & Evolve will play/perform better on the superior hardware as well.

Yes I do think MS's larger problem is that Sony has the mindshare. It would appear that the average potential purchaser views the PS4 as being the more valuable choice. With how important multiplatform games are to both MS and PS systems, and the onslaught of such titles during September, October and November I do think exclusives will have less of an impact on purchasing trends than otherwise

 

[BuggeryBugz]

We'll get an update on Xbox One lifetime sales to retailers (as of June 30th) on July 22nd, and an update on Wii U lifetime sales to retailers (as of June 30th) on July 30th.

Ok. Thanks.

I could make some up for PS4 and XB1 if you'd like but they'll be wholly inaccurate

I just want to get a rough estimate and you would know a lot more than I would. Last I heard it was 5million (shipped) for X1 and around 7million? (Sold) for PS4.

 

[ZSaberLink]

This has probably been the healthiest month for all consoles as a whole so far this year. The PS4 > 250K, XB1 close to 200K, and the Wii U and 3DS close to 150K. The poor Vita continues to not be stocked/struggle, but at least 4/5 is better than we've had in a long while. If only the market would just continue to be this healthy...

 

[Mpl90]

Now those are healthy hardware numbers.

The problem hasn't been the PS4. The problem, so far, has been that the second and third place consoles have been particularly weak. The Wii ended up being a relatively weak first place system in unit sales LTD, but that was fine because the second and third place systems were relatively strong. The PS4, in turn, may end up being a moderate-to-strong first place system, but if the second and third place systems fall off the face of the earth, that still would represent dramatic contraction for the home console space overall.

Yeah, I agree.
PS4, while not doing like you'd expect from the best selling console, especially seeing the others doing that badly, it was still selling well pre se. Just not well enough for a leader with those competitors. This month, things went much better for both One and Wii U.

Still, I fear this improvement could not last that long. At least, not at this levels >_>

P.S. creamsugar, a brand new 3DS and Vita overall first and third party list like you did last year, pleaaaaaase and thanks for Tomodachi Life's retail data.

 

[zhao3gold]

WOW, 49 pages. Late for the party. Last night only focus on the airplane shooting down.

Did we get any conclusion from this month NPD, such as Xbox One is doomed?

 

[JABEE]

I'm sure they could compete, but it would probably require a dramatic change in approach and a lot more savvy. I've noticed this common refrain amongst many people (And I'm not trying to single you out here, it's a broader observation than that), suggesting that there is nothing console manufacturers can possibly do to stop the contraction and that nothing about home consoles can plausibly be changed.

That seems clearly silly to me. We have immediate, ample evidence that home consoles can attract these consumers; the Wii did a very good job of it just last generation. It's possible. It would probably require some real creative thinking, but I think a lot of gamers are quick to say it's not possible in part because they're sort of happy not having the console manufacturers catering to consumers who aren't them. That isn't intended to be accusatory -- who doesn't want corporations catering to them? -- it's only intended as an observation.

I think they could have done it successfully at one point, but an unwillingness to abandon the premium pricing model that most console games had (this continues) and their deficiencies in developing coherent Mobile/Home software ecosystems have been their biggest problem attracting that market.

They backed the wrong, more traditional horse (boxed $50-60 console games) a long time ago and there was a reluctance to do what companies like Google and Apple were able to do.

I think the Wii's success as a non-internet/network connected device was a product of its time. When Apple and then Google were able to develop their own App stores with games that were free-to-play or $.99, I agree that the big three lacked the "savvy" to capitalize on it as you say.

As someone that isn't on the inside of the industry, I think the unwillingness to accept the changing pricing models was the biggest culprit beyond just "savvy." Look at the PC development community and its ability to capitalize on new ways to monetize gaming.

I think to look at Wii as the same kind of thing as what Apple and Google are doing is the wrong way to look at it. Apple and Google not only created innovation in the way people play games, but they were also able to completely change the business model. Apple and Google could afford to be brave in the pricing model for games on their platform. Nintendo and the other members of the big three were not able to be so brave with the stakeholders that they had.

Nintendo never abandoned their traditional pricing structure when they created the Wii. Games were still purchased at stores and the expectations for tech devices were not as high. People weren't as entrenched in their networks and weren't expecting the same functionality in tech products.

 

[mrklaw]

I'm sure they could compete, but it would probably require a dramatic change in approach and a lot more savvy. I've noticed this common refrain amongst many people (And I'm not trying to single you out here, it's a broader observation than that), suggesting that there is nothing console manufacturers can possibly do to stop the contraction and that nothing about home consoles can plausibly be changed.

That seems clearly silly to me. We have immediate, ample evidence that home consoles can attract these consumers; the Wii did a very good job of it just last generation. It's possible. It would probably require some real creative thinking, but I think a lot of gamers are quick to say it's not possible in part because they're sort of happy not having the console manufacturers catering to consumers who aren't them. That isn't intended to be accusatory -- who doesn't want corporations catering to them? -- it's only intended as an observation.

I honestly believe the Xbox has potential here. If you imagine Xbox with an open App Store and Cortana for decent and natural speech recognition, it really could become more than just a game box.

I know most of the gaming forum just wants a game box, but I also think that may be not be enough to avoid such a contracting market, and having a broader appeal to the living room, can help sustain home console gaming by making consoles a destination for information, media consumption as well as gaming

 

[airmangataosenai]

An interesting footnote: This marks the first time in it's entire 20 months of tracking that the Wii U has beaten the Gamecube at a similar point in it's life. Barely, but it's something.

 

[Burai]

They never do this and I'm always unsure why.

Last year with 3D World, they should have found a way to mention MK8 and Smash Bros. are coming in 2014. They're repeating the same mistake again.

They did a similar ad campaign for the GameCube during one of it's drought years and they were mocked to hell and back for what was essentially begging people to ignore that there were no games coming out and to ignore the PS2 and Xbox which had plenty.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Has anyone posted any possible numbers for PS4 and Xbone?

 

[ZSaberLink]

WOW, 49 pages. Late for the party. Last night only focus on the airplane shooting down.

Did we get any conclusion from this month NPD, such as Xbox One is doomed?

With the final numbers, I think the XB1's future is worrisome, but the sales this month (197K) weren't that bad. Look at post #2023

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I honestly believe the Xbox has potential here. If you imagine Xbox with an open App Store and Cortana for decent and natural speech recognition, it really could become more than just a game box.

I know most of the gaming forum just wants a game box, but I also think that may be not be enough to avoid such a contracting market, and having a broader appeal to the living room, can help sustain home console gaming by making consoles a destination for information, media consumption as well as gaming

The living room dream box is dead and maybe in 10 to 15 years so are consoles .
The future is having a table \phone or app \services running to your TV no matter the brand .

 

[donny2112]

It's already on gonintendo, gamefaqs and chartz from the quick googling I did

Cat's fully out of the bag

Reminds me of some VooDoo3D charts back in the day that just stopped for some reason one month.

 

[mrklaw]

Right now I am giving November and maybe December to XB1. I'm expecting that a halo bundle, along with 360 users upgrading for advanced warfare, will push sales. I think the 360/PS3 port of COD will be bad enough that it will push the fanbase to current gen.

Hmm. The continued decent 360 sales might suggest 360 owners hanging on, so there is the potential for those conversions to bring big numbers in for Xb1. Is there any data that shows PS3/XB1 upgrade percentages?

 

[Deleted member 125677]

The power of Mario Kart! Extremely impressive that it can perform like this on "dead" hardware! Caused a noticeable hardware bump as well.

PS4 trucking along, maintaining #1 even with the kinect-less XB SKU out should make Sony comfortable they have hit the spot in the west with their new console. (As if there were any doubt at this point, lol.)

If I the numbers I pick up from the thread is right,

PS4: 269
XB1: 197
WiU: 140

it looks -- for now -- like a healthy enough situation for the console market overall in NA, all things considered. It'll be exciting to see how XB1 and Wii U perform up until the holiday though.


It's also hilarious that a game like Tomodachi charts in this territory.

Only negative this month is really the Vita being back in the shit hole

 

[zhao3gold]

Xbox One was close to 200K. I feel happy for this sales although it is still behind PS4. And also happy for Wii U. Sad to see Vita is still struggling in US.

I really expect all consoles/handhelds have good sales. Sad to see fanboys want to see any of gaming device go to die...

 

[donny2112]

So the Wii U sold a lot better in June, but what does it really have for the rest of the year, to keep momentum?

So far I got:

Hyrule Warriors - Sept '14
Bayonetta 2 - October '14
Captain Toad - November '14
Smash Bros Wii U - December '14

Besides some Lego games here and there, what else does the Wii U have? Indie eShop games? I'm hoping for dat Fast Racing Neo personally.....

I'm thinking Hyrule Warriors will surprise in sales due to being Zelda Musou. First Zelda-game on the Wii U, even if it's not a mainline one.

 

[Opiate]

I think they could have done it successfully at one point, but an unwillingness to abandon the premium pricing model that most console games had (this continues) and their deficiencies in developing coherent Mobile/Home software ecosystems have been their biggest problem attracting that market.

They backed the wrong, more traditional horse (boxed $50-60 console games) a long time ago and there was a reluctance to do what companies like Google and Apple were able to do.

I think the Wii's success as a non-internet/network connected device was a product of its time. When Apple and then Google were able to develop their own App stores with games that were free-to-play or $.99, I agree that the big three lacked the "savvy" to capitalize on it as you say.

As someone that isn't on the inside of the industry, I think the unwillingness to accept the changing pricing models was the biggest culprit beyond just "savvy." Look at the PC development community and its ability to capitalize on new ways to monetize gaming.

I think to look at Wii as the same kind of thing as what Apple and Google are doing is the wrong way to look at it. Apple and Google not only created innovation in the way people play games, but they were also able to completely change the business model. Apple and Google could afford to be brave in the pricing model for games on their platform. Nintendo and the other members of the big three were not able to be so brave with the stakeholders that they had.

Nintendo never abandoned their traditional pricing structure when they created the Wii. Games were still purchased at stores and the expectations for tech devices were not as high. People weren't as entrenched in their networks and weren't expecting the same functionality in tech products.

Well, I think of pricing structure as part of being "savvy," but I definitely agree with the overall thrust of your argument here.

I honestly believe the Xbox has potential here. If you imagine Xbox with an open App Store and Cortana for decent and natural speech recognition, it really could become more than just a game box.

I know most of the gaming forum just wants a game box, but I also think that may be not be enough to avoid such a contracting market, and having a broader appeal to the living room, can help sustain home console gaming by making consoles a destination for information, media consumption as well as gaming

I generally agree, although Microsoft seems to be pulling back from this approach to more conservative territory with the Xbox. I also agree that some of the resistance to this potential is as you say: it's not what many gamers want. I think people are reluctant to endorse strategies that they don't personally prefer, even if those strategies are intelligent from a broader perspective. And I include myself in that; I'm sure I'm more bullish about open platforms than is objectively reasonable, given my personal preferences.

 

[MikeOfTheLivingDead]

PS4 is pretty much guaranteed to be the best-selling platform until October.

That month MS has some chance of winning due to the co-marketing and exclusive beta [?] for Alien Isolation and Evolve combined with Sunset Overdrive. Not to mention that FH2 is slatted for end of September

I'm not particularly convinced they will win the month but it is at least partially in contention.

November is also in contention due to COD and HMCC but again I'm not convinced how likely that outcome is.

That all being said, I wouldn't completely discount XB1's chances this holidays as anything is possible

I'll discount them

Betas don't move consoles and no Alien game has ever been a system seller. I'm personally really looking forward to Alien Isolation but I don't expect it to be great. It's been proven time and time again that as much love as there is for the Alien franchise it doesn't translate to selling games, or even making quality games. Evolve is going to find it's audience mainly on PC, not consoles. As interesting as SO is, it's a new IP and it's a little too cutesy and corny to sell huge. It's like an adult cartoon. There will be a fan base for it, but it's not a reason for too many if any people to spend $400 on a console. Titanfall was Microsoft's doomsday device as far as exclusives go for this year, nothing else they have exclusively will move hardware the way Titanfall could have and should have. I think MS could figure out a way to win this holiday, but relying on their current lineup alone isn't going to get it done and that seems to be the course they are taking.

The Master Chief Collection will not move a lot of consoles. It's a series in decline. Everyone has played those games to death. The collection is not going to be a showcase of the XboxOne on any level and will be much less appealing than a new CoD or Destiny or just about anything that is next gen. HMCC is something people will buy after they play everything that's new and appealing; it won't be the reason many people buy an Xbone. At best it's a Mario Kart 8 like bump.

I don't see MS winning October or November. November will be a very good month for them, but as much as it pains me to admit it, Destiny looks to be the system seller this fall.

 

[mrklaw]

MS has certainly been losing money it would seem on their hardware SKUs for XB1 but I feel they may yet get the okay for a big push this holiday season. We'll see though

You don't think there is a risk of the Xbox getting a more negative image from too many reactions by MS? Titanfall bundle, kinect removal and a price cut all in just over 6 months might creat an air of desperation which could actually put people off. Why buy now when they'll just cut it again in 3 months?

 

[Aquamarine]

The power of Mario Kart! Extremely impressive that it can perform like this on "dead" hardware! Caused a noticeable hardware bump as well.

PS4 trucking along, maintaining #1 even with the kinect-less XB SKU out should make Sony comfortable they have hit the spot in the west with their new console. (As if there were any doubt at this point, lol.)

If I the numbers I pick up from the thread is right,

PS4: 269
XB1: 197
WiU: 140

it looks -- for now -- like a healthy enough situation for the console market overall in NA, all things considered. It'll be exciting to see how XB1 and Wii U perform up until the holiday though.

Those numbers you listed are all accurate. That's why that website is being called a leak and not a rumour.

 

[Game Guru]

I honestly believe the Xbox has potential here. If you imagine Xbox with an open App Store and Cortana for decent and natural speech recognition, it really could become more than just a game box.

I know most of the gaming forum just wants a game box, but I also think that may be not be enough to avoid such a contracting market, and having a broader appeal to the living room, can help sustain home console gaming by making consoles a destination for information, media consumption as well as gaming

I am not sure that will work because devices like the Fire TV, which is mainly made for media consumption, but can also play games, are going to become more and more prevalent. The worst think that can happen to consoles is if every device one can plug into a TV can get games from an App Store.

 

[Ratros]

PS4 US May + June Sales = 197k + 269K = 466k [51.8K Weekly Sales]
XB1 US May + June Sales = 77K + 197K = 274k [30.4K Weekly Sales]

So on a week by week basis, PS4 outsold XB1 by 70% over May and June on average

I think I did the math right?

Yeah. If you don't mind, I would like to add that on a week-by-week basis, XBOX One, PS4 and Wii U's sale numbers from January to April are:

The little difference of XBO numbers between April and May + June indicates that the introduction of the Kinect-less SKU is just postponing consumers' purchases of XBOX One, instead of creating new demands. That's really troublesome for Microsoft.

 

[mrklaw]

Well, I think of pricing structure as part of being "savvy," but I definitely agree with the overall thrust of your argument here.



I generally agree, although Microsoft seems to be pulling back from this approach to more conservative territory with the Xbox. I also agree that some of the resistance to this potential is as you say: it's not what many gamers want. I think people are reluctant to endorse strategies that they don't personally want. And I include myself in that; I'm sure I'm more bullish about open platforms than is objectively reasonable, given my personal preferences.

I would pay twice the price of the Xbox one for a properly designed box that lets me control all my media with both natural voice and an IR remote, with tablet integration. 'Xbox, play the next episode of Arrow' and it knows I've been watching it on Prime, and know the next episode so just plays it. I've probably spent way more than that looking for the perfect media solution up to now.

All of the component parts are there, but it just isn't quite coherent yet. I also realise this is just me and even if they did that, it wouldn't be a turnaround strategy for the whole division

 

[Hero of Legend]

I'm thinking Hyrule Warriors will surprise in sales due to being Zelda Musou. First Zelda-game on the Wii U, even if it's not a mainline one.

Second you mean? Or first original Zelda on Wii U.

 

[AniHawk]

Yeah. If you don't mind, I would like to add that on a week-by-week basis, XBOX One, PS4 and Wii U's sale numbers from January to April are:

The little difference of XBO numbers between April and May + June indicates that the introduction of the Kinect-less SKU is just postponing consumers' purchases of XBOX One, instead of creating new demands. That's really troublesome for Microsoft.

the wii u numbers are incorrect, at least for april.

anyway, if i was to read this correctly, it seems that february was the traditional yearly bump (almost double sales), except for the supply-constrained ps4, which had its full impact delayed into march. after that, everything's been selling at fairly constant rate, with the wii u receiving a fairly noticeable uptick thanks to mario kart.

 

[Opiate]

I am not sure that will work because devices like the Fire TV, which is mainly made for media consumption, but can also play games, are going to become more and more prevalent. The worst think that can happen to consoles is if every device one can plug into a TV can get games from an App Store.

Yeah, I think many people are hoping that the encroachment on the console industry from the mobile revolution will stay neatly quarantined within the handheld market, but that seems unlikely to me. As you say, things like Fire TV or Apple TVs or even just Android tablets with wireless connectivity to televisions are natural extensions of the products already in existence, and there is every reason to expect them to grow.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I think people need to see they was no way Sony or MS could have gone after the casual market and won or even matter really .
MS pay the price of doing that and now they doing there 180 .
I am all ears if people could give eg on how they could have done it but at this point of time it's way to late for that .

 

[SwiftDeath]

I just want to get a rough estimate and you would know a lot more than I would. Last I heard it was 5million (shipped) for X1 and around 7million? (Sold) for PS4.

Those are the last official statements we've gotten about either's WW sales

So here I go with my terrible guesstimation work

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For PS4
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Last WW Update was 7M WW on April 16th and sold through April 6th

From Dec. 28th, Sony had sold 4.2M PS4's WW, so between Dec. 28th, 2013 and April 6th, 2014, approximately 2.8M PS4's were sold WW

PS4 US YTD through March was 910k

Thus US PS4 sales make up approximately 910/2800 of the world's PS4 sales in that period or roughly 32.5% of WW PS4 sales

For sake of argument that seems a bit low so I'll up it to 35% as the base US/World PS4 sales ratio

Thus with sales of PS4 in the US for May and June of 197k and 269k respectively, I would predict around 1332k units sold WW [197+269 = 466, 466/.35] in that time period

And thus PS4 WW LTD would be around 8.33M as of the end of June

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For XB1
------------

Using the same approach

MS had WW XB1 sales at 3M as of Dec. 31st, 2013

XB1 US 2013 YTD = 909k + 908k = 1817K

Thus XB1 US/WW sales ratio was for that time period 1817/3000 = 60.5%

Therefore with XB1 US 2014 YTD = 1099k then this would suggest XB1 WW 2014 YTD = 1816.5k

So XB1 WW LTD would be around 4.816M as of the end of June

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Again this method is wholly inaccurate I'm sure, the XB1 moreso

 

[Mpl90]

Time for updating the May-to-June prospects, then!

Month changes

360 PS3 WII WIU PS4 ONE
1.3
1.3 1.2 1.1
1.2 1.9 1.0
1.4 1.3 1.2
2.3 2.0 1.3
1.9 1.6 1.2
1.6 1.5 1.3
1.2 1.3 1.5 1.3
1.09 1.135 1.58 2.295 1.365 2.56

Normalised for number of weeks

360 PS3 WII WIU PS4 ONE
1.0
1.0 1.0 0.9
0.9 1.6 0.8
1.1 1.0 1.0
1.9 1.6 1.0
1.5 1.2 0.9
1.3 1.2 1.1
1.0 1.0 1.2 1.0
0.87 0.91 1.267 1.85 1.09 2.046

 

[neohwa]

PS4 is the only good thing in hardware sales. All others are worrying.

Software sales down year over year, not good.

 

[Opiate]

PS4 is the only good thing in hardware sales. All others are worrying.

Software sales down year over year, not good.

Those are decent sales for summer all around. PS4 is clearly the best, but the question shouldn't be "is Wii U selling as well as the PS4?" but rather "is the Wii U selling decently for a second/third place console?" Obviously if you are still laboring under the belief that the Wii U can totally turn it around and topple the PS4, then yes, these are bad sales.

The only number here I find particularly troubling is the Vita. Otherwise, again, these numbers are fine for a summer month.

 

[GoofsterStud]

So have we reached a point where Wii-U's world wide sales are more than the Xbox One month to month? I am reasonably confident that this holds true for both May and June....

 

[AniHawk]

PS4 is the only good thing in hardware sales. All others are worrying.

Software sales down year over year, not good.

i think it's somewhat worrying that the top-selling console in a new generation is selling like a second-place console from the last two generations. the ps4 is doing fine by itself, but it feels like we're missing something here.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

So have we reached a point where Wii-U's world wide sales are more than the Xbox One month to month? I know it's true for May and June....

How do you know that?

 

[GoofsterStud]

How do you know that?

It takes multiple sources, but it's pretty clear.

 

[SwiftDeath]

So have we reached a point where Wii-U's world wide sales are more than the Xbox One month to month? I know it's true for May and June....

It's impossible to know objectively unless you have access to monthly hardware sales for PAL territories but I think it's likely that at least for June, Wii U outsold XB1 WW. Maybe May too I guess

 

[Opiate]

It takes multiple sources, but it's pretty clear.

Wording is pretty important around here, for future reference. We see an important distinction between phrases like "it's pretty clear based on multiple sources" and "I know it's true," particularly given the relative ambiguity of PAL sales.