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[Sho_Nuff82]

If that second chart is home consoles then the 360 and PS3 both look really close.

That's probably the biggest surprise, and probably why MS didn't spout the 40% marketshare thing this month.

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<360
360+u>ps3+wii

Purple = 261K (360)
Green = 209.5K (PS3)
Red = 86.7K (Wii)
Blue = 63.7K (Wii U)

They fit!

 

[BlazingDarkness]

So the question is whether Wii U is the small piece of the pie or the really small piece of the pie.

:lol

 

[Road]

cs getting all fancy.

How do you count pixels on a pie? Something with a pi, OMG

*has nightmares with Math*

 

[Cheebo]

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<360
360+u>ps3+wii

No 3ds numbers?

 

[opticalmace]

Assuming that the 360 is at 260 and PS3 around 250 (going by portions of that chart, that leaves around 127k to be split between the Wii and WiiU (their portion combined is one fourth.

So unless my math is wrong:

Around 127k for Wii and WiiU combined.

Based on the chart, the Wii U is less than the Wii by a not insignificant amount?

edit: sorry, misread your comment. nm

 

[PhantomR]

Bad consumer products should fail.

So the Xbox 360 with it's infinite rings of death should've died years ago, right?

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

hw

That chart is gonna look like a rainbow pie when ps4/720 come out

 

[UberTag]

Go Bioshock!

I wonder what 2K's expectations are for the game? If it's seen as a failure, I'll be a very sad man indeed.

2K isn't Square Enix. I'm sure their expectations were realistic enough.
Those Metacritic scores plus topping launch month franchise sales can't be construed as negative things.

 

[Zoramon089]

Look how close the divisions are. We know that X360 is out front, we know that Wii & WiiU aren't anywhere near that. So, we can conclude that PS3 & 360 are close and Wii & Wii U are the small divisions but very similar.

Easier to let us conclude than to give stuff away and open yourself to NPD Ninjas.

But the handheld chart has names. I'm saying why take the risk and label that and not do the same for consoles?

 

[Kandinsky]

MH numbers pleeeeeaaaaase.

 

[Scum]

What possible reason is there not to label the console chart?

creamsugar might get into trouble.

 

[Metallix87]

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<360
360+u>ps3+wii

Where's 3DS?

 

[DaBoss]

I don't give a damn what other people want. I want this.

Then it will bomb and we get no handheld at all, it would be a terrible idea.

 

[TheDrowningMan]

I also think it's an advertising problem. I haven't seen nearly as much advertising for the Wii U as I did for the Wii in 2006 and early 2007. Has ANYONE asked Nintendo about that in interviews? Do they really think Nintendo Direct is being watched by anyone other than core gamers?

It's a theory I've had since, erm, about December, and while I haven't been able to get it fully corroborated, here it is:

Nintendo expected the first 5m units to effectively 'sell themselves', negating the need for a big marketing push. That was always planned for the latter part of 2013. They didn't expect a Wii-level phenomenon with this console's launch (which is why I find it hilarious that there exist people credulous / agenda-fueled enough to claim that Nintendo Land was expected to be a huge mass-market driver in the same way as Wii Sports) but that there was enough of a base to sell through that many worldwide by April.

That's why marketing has been so thin on the ground, that's why they've let the console be neglected at retail. Because the belief was that there was enough demand to render major worldwide spending unnecessary; turns out that was a horrible misjudgment. I could have told them that last year, but hey...

 

[Tagg9]

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<360
360+u>ps3+wii

Hahaha, it's like solving a goddamn puzzle.

 

[Delusibeta]

Wow. I noticed this about FIFA the other day as well. I never thought EA may just to a flat out complete pull from Nintendo platforms, but I guess it may be happening.

Eh, I don't think so. I think they're indicating that they're going to release a zero effort roster update, but I'd be very, very surprised if FIFA 14 isn't on the WiiU. Hell, I'll be surprised if it isn't on the Wii or the PS2.

 

[TheNatural]

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<360
360+u>ps3+wii

LOL holy shit.

 

[CronoShot]

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<360
360+u>ps3+wii

Yeeeeeesh.

Wii<3DS<PS3 I'm assuming?

 

[Nirolak]

hw

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<360
360+u>ps3+wii

Okay so this one is worth 30 picarats.

 

[Kusagari]

Well Wii U still beat the Vita!

 

[Yawnier]

So the question is whether Wii U is the small piece of the pie or the really small piece of the pie.

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<360
360+u>ps3+wii

Looks like it is the really small piece of the pie (the blue).

 

[Sexually Aggressive Uncle]

Lego Undercover......literally

 

[shinra-bansho]

cs getting all fancy.

How do you count pixels on a pie? Something with a pi, OMG

*has nightmares with Math*

ImageJ magicwand.

Purple = 261K
Green = 209.5K
Red = 86.7K
Blue = 63.7K

Can do the handheld chart too, but don't know what to use as a base number for 3DS to extrapolate others.

 

[DaBoss]

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<360
360+u>ps3+wii

Well fuck. Dead. So how about them MH numbers.

 

[mothball]

Purple = 261K
Green = 209.5K
Red = 86.7K
Blue = 63.7K

Sounds about right.

 

[AniHawk]

okay well whatever shinra

 

[A Human Becoming]

hw

Can you confirm the 245k 3DS number?

 

[Acorn]

 

[jett]

According to that piechart and the 360 number it sees Wii U sold around 70k?

 

[RedSwirl]

If I recall the sports games are using the frostbite engine, which Dice said the Wii U doesn't support

I don't think they confirmed their sports games were on frostbite specifically. Just that "10 EA studios" or something were working with the engine. I don't know how many that leaves out though.

Bet Madden will come to WiiU, just not Madden 25. The press release was just for the full featured Maddens. WiiU will get a cheap port of madden 12.5 or something probably.

When Madden 13 came out on the Wii U, the response EA gave for the Wii U version being 12.5 was that they were coming to grips with new hardware. This is actually how they always operate. The first version of Madden for any unfamiliar piece of hardware usually ends up having fewer features than the previous version on old hardware.

This is what happened in 2006 when the Wii version (being on the familiar Gamecube hardware) of Madden 07 ended up being the most feature-rich version. IF Madden does come out on the Wii U this year, I'm actually interested in seeing if this could end up being at more fully-featured version (or at least Madden 13.5), especially compared to the PS4 and next Xbox versions.

 

[SolarPowered]

Damn even the DS is outselling the Wii U?

 

[Miles X]

360 and PS3 arnt that close then, bigger gap than last month and march last year.

 

[BlackJace]

What's surprising is that the DS is still selling.

 

[Kazerei]

So ... is anyone scraping data off those pie charts? Maybe draw some vectors and measure the angles between 'em.

Edit: looks like shinra already did

 

[Busaiku]

Historically speaking NPD has rarely talked about dollar sales for software (sans games that come bundled with toys like Skylanders), whereas they do that on a somewhat regular basis with hardware.

I imagine this is because software generally comes in one price for the vast majority of sales whereas it's not uncommon to have multiple SKUs of consoles andhandhelds these days, sometimes with significant price differentiation.

But didn't both games get multiple SKUs?

 

[TheUnknownForce]

As long as the 360 and PS3 get new multiplatform releases without a Wii U equivalent, and as long as the Wii U gets no games that are marketed enough to sell the system, this is how the sales are going to look going forward.

Why buy a new console when the old cheaper consoles have the same games?

MH3U is nice but available on 3DS and is niche.
LCU is good but lacked multiplayer, a license, and was not marketed extremely well.
NFSMWU might be the best version, but its months late and has no marketing

I stand by my prediction: Nintendo delayed their entire Wii U release lineup to crowd the 2nd half of the year to relaunch the system in time for the Durango and PS4. They want to eat the losses now and boost their revenue next fiscal year. Wii U is going to hurt like this until Summer, stagger a bit and then finally get a breath of sales when the Fall and Winter hits...if not, bye Wii U and bye Iwata D:

 

[Y2Kev]

Vita and Wii U are the modern day gba and ps3 lol

 

[Cess007]

Hahaha, it's like solving a goddamn puzzle.

Puzzle you said? Then it's Layton time!

 

[Kyoufu]

Poor Vita.

 

[Hrothgar]

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<360
360+u>ps3+wii

Purple = 261K
Green = 209.5K
Red = 86.7K
Blue = 63.7K

purple = 360
green = ps3
red = Wii
blue = Wii u

 

[A Human Becoming]

What's surprising is that the DS is still selling.

GBA was selling >100k every month up until March 2007.

 

[UberTag]

What's surprising is that the DS is still selling.

It's not that surprising. What else are you going to play Pokemon on?

 

[Durante]

I got this, using the powers of pie-chart reconstruction:

Wii U	67
Wii	91
PS3	212
X360	261

(Of course, the labeling is unsure)

 

[Des0lar]

So ... is anyone scraping data off those pie charts? Maybe draw some vectors and measure the angles between 'em.

Edit: looks like shinra already did

Purple = 261K
Green = 209.5K
Red = 86.7K
Blue = 63.7K

.

 

[Santiako]

Vita and Wii U are the modern day gba and ps3 lol

 

[Soriku]

Really? Then what's with all of these "PS4 is going to destroy the Wii U' posts I see here often? Software sells hardware, and although the Wii U may be floundering right now, I don't expect the competition to do much better. Times have changed, and so has the economy. Price matters, and I thought Nintendo of all companies would be the first to acknowledge this. Instead, they designed their new system around a controller that costs 150 dollars to replace. What in the fuck were they thinking?

I think they probably expected Mario to do better, but if they really believe they'd have good sustained sales with ports and minor games, that'd be a major disconnect with the industry.

I'm pretty confident PS4 and 720 (if always online is false) will do well, especially in the long run. They'll have major third party support (though there'll be cross gen stuff) and they're a bigger upgrade than the Wii U. Plus IMO there's a certain stigma behind Nintendo consoles than PS/Xbox. We just need to see price.

 

[Aaron Strife]

the wii sold about as much as the wii u. wow.

All those gamers ponying up for Pandora's Tower

 

[BlackJace]

It's not that surprising. What else are you going to play Pokemon on?

Your 3DS/XL?

 

[Y2Kev]

That's 12.7k a week for wii u...is that better or worse than last month?

 

[slabrock]

No one wants to buy a handheld at the price of 250+. Evidence: 3DS and Vita

250 wouldn't even be so bad for the Vita if it wasn't for the memory card pricing