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[A Human Becoming]

Assuming 3DS = 245K
PSV = 32.4K
NDS = 89.3K
PSP = 6K

That would be a record low for Vita. I hope creamsugar can confirm the 245k.

 

[RukusProvider]

Lord Creameth,

Would you please share GoW/GoW numbers? We have Sugar to offer!

 

[TheUnknownForce]

GameCube: 111,236 in March 2002 (5 week reporting period), or 22,247 per week.

So 65,000 for the Wii U in March 2013 (5 week reporting period), or 13,000 per week, is pretty horrible.

Well, note the lineups between the two to see why sales were the way they were.

GameCube:
Luigi's Mansion
Wave Race: Blue Storm
Pikmin
Super Smash Brothers Melee
Rouge Squadron II
Super Monkey Ball
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
Promising third-party support

Wii U:
New Super Mario Bros U
Nintendo Land
Sing Party
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge
LEGO City Undercover
ZombiU
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
Need for Speed Most Wanted U
No third-party support

I'm not defending the Wii U's horrible "launch window" here, but it is pretty obvious that there was at least some hype going on with GameCube within the core gamer audience and not sheer abandonment of support like Wii U.

 

[Delusibeta]

Now, 6,480/week in America, that's definitely a dead console.

 

[Nirolak]

Thanks, although bad for Vita I was somehow expecting under 20k.

Given that 3DS number might be a bit high, the Vita could in fact be lower.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

This is just some silly math, but that works out to about 37 Wii U's sold per state, per day.

 

[Jamix012]

Are we sure that the Wii U isn't the one around ~88k and the Wii isn't the ~66k one?

 

[RukusProvider]

Thanks, although bad for Vita I was somehow expecting under 20k.

Admit it, you just want another forecast revision like the rest of us!

 

[CrunchyB]

Yikes

So much for the "in the same time period it sold more than 360!" shit that was going on a couple months ago. Those people sure have shut up.

Ever since the January drop off it was clear that the 360 would overtake it.

It's not going to be get better until some good games come out either, so not until fall at the very earliest. And the Wind Waker upgrade alone isn't going to cut it either.

 

[Amir0x]

Okay so this one is worth 30 picarats.

i seriously laughed so fucking hard that i bit my tongue lol

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Are we sure that the Wii U isn't the one around ~88k and the Wii isn't the ~66k one?

creamsugar posted the order.

 

[Miles X]

Given that 3DS number might be a bit high, the Vita could in fact be lower.

Yeah, regardless it'll be below 20k in time the way Sony are going ...

Are we sure that the Wii U isn't the one around ~88k and the Wii isn't the ~66k one?

I think not given his 360 > u 200k comment

 

[dragonflys545]

If Vita means Life and it's dead, what does WiiU mean?

Ambulance - Wii U Wii U Wii U

 

[Nirolak]

Are we sure that the Wii U isn't the one around ~88k and the Wii isn't the ~66k one?

Creamsugar gave an ordering chart afterwards:

psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<3ds<360
360+u>ps3+wii

 

[SniperHunter]

can we get some.numbers for god of war plzz

 

[FLAguy954]

It's going to be a hard, HARD summer for the Wii U.

It can only go 'up' from there

 

[TheNatural]

Yeah but it did so I don't know why the fact it's no longer changes that...

The point that people kept saying it over and over again as some sort of indicative future sales surge. It was always blatantly obvious the differences between the two launches.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Are we sure that the Wii U isn't the one around ~88k and the Wii isn't the ~66k one?

Yes we're quite sure

 

[AniHawk]

If that drop holds up next week it's gonna fall to 9k a week x 4, 36k for April?

that's pretty optimistic. april is a considerably slower month than march. 28k might be more reasonable.

 

[SolarPowered]

fortunately there will be less game releases in the future, so maybe sales can soar back up to the high 60ks once again.

Rayman may have to be delayed again.

 

[Gonzo The Great]

Just because Nintendo does what they always do when it comes to product design, doesn't mean whatsoever that they're "arrogant".

The NES launched at 200 dollars and was more powerful than the competition at the time.
The SNES launched at 200 dollars and was more powerful than the competition at the time.
The N64 launched at 200 dollars and was more powerful than the competition at the time.
The GCN launched at 200 dollars and was more powerful than the competition at the time.
The Wii launched at 250 dollars and was weaker than the competition, although much cheaper.
The Wii U launched at 350 dollars and is just as powerful as the competition, yet more expensive.

Combine this with a poor launch lineup, name/brand confusion, and nearly zero advertising, Nintendo is arrogant for expecting it to sell more than 20,000 units. And I say this as a lifelong Nintendo fan who primarily plays Nintendo games.

 

[Scum]

So we're looking at the Wii U going down from 66K despite this being a 5 week month with game releases.

I wonder if those 80k Wii owners thought they will be playing NFSMWU and MH3U...

 

[Jamix012]

Creamsugar gave an ordering chart afterwards:

Ok, thanks. That's a disaster.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Creamsugar gave an ordering chart afterwards:

Also since Wii greater than NDS, presumably 3DS isn't 245K?

Durante, could you do the handheld chart and see if you get different numbers than I do that conform to the ordering?

 

[bananas]

They call it the Wii U because when you see it you do a U-turn and walk away.


Okay, that was terrible.

It's the new "turn 360 degrees and walk away", except it actually makes sense.

 

[Poimandres]

And the children WiiP

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

This is just some silly math, but that works out to about 37 Wii U's sold per state, per day.

Now do the per county numbers.

Now, 6,480/week in America, that's definitely a dead console.

What does Sony even do with the Vita at this point? Wait for Killzone before they drop the price? I've never seen a platform with so little buzz.

 

[Amir0x]

67,000 for Wii U?
30,000 for Vita?

wrizzity-wrap it up

 

[AniHawk]

That would be a record low for Vita. I hope creamsugar can confirm the 245k.

it's going to be a record low for vita no matter what. if it's 245k for the 3ds, it's based off unit sales. if it's based off revenue, then everything will be lower.

 

[GillianSeed79]

Great numbers for Infinite. I wonder how much it sold if you added in PC digital download sales?

 

[Metallix87]

The NES launched at 200 dollars and was more powerful than the competition at the time.
The SNES launched at 200 dollars and was more powerful than the competition at the time.
The N64 launched at 200 dollars and was more powerful than the competition at the time.
The GCN launched at 200 dollars and was more powerful than the competition at the time.
The Wii launched at 250 dollars and was weaker than the competition, although much cheaper.
The Wii U launched at 350 dollars and is just as powerful as the competition, yet more expensive.

Poor logic. By your example, Wii U's competition would be PS4 and 720, and those will likely be more expensive than Wii U.

 

[A Human Becoming]

When it comes to the poor Wii U and Vita sales, do most people here thing it's more due to the marketing or the hardware not being appropriate for the market (high price of Vita, Wii U gamepad, etc.)?

 

[Zoramon089]

When it comes to the poor Wii U and Vita sales, do most people here thing it's more due to the marketing or the hardware not being appropriate for the market (high price of Vita, Wii U gamepad, etc.)?

Neither. Games.

 

[Dalthien]

Also since Wii greater than NDS, presumably 3DS isn't 245K?

Durante, could you do the handheld chart and see if you get different numbers than I do that conform to the ordering?

But Durante's Wii value is 91k, which is > your DS value of 89k.

 

[shinra-bansho]

When it comes to the poor Wii U and Vita sales, do most people here thing it's more due to the marketing or the hardware not being appropriate for the market (high price of Vita, Wii U gamepad, etc.)?

The latter, they're both products lacking a market/ failures in market validation.

 

[SolarPowered]

When it comes to the poor Wii U and Vita sales, do most people here thing it's more due to the marketing or the hardware not being appropriate for the market (high price of Vita, Wii U gamepad, etc.)?

Both things.

They're products made for a market that just isn't interested. Nintendo going with power comparable to that of 7 year old systems and Sony pushing the price too high with an OLED screen and proprietary memory.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

When it comes to the poor Wii U and Vita sales, do most people here thing it's more due to the marketing or the hardware not being appropriate for the market (high price of Vita, Wii U gamepad, etc.)?

Neither its software.

 

[RamzaIsCool]

So the WiiU did around 200k for the quarter... isn't that a new record or something?

 

[Amir0x]

When it comes to the poor Wii U and Vita sales, do most people here thing it's more due to the marketing or the hardware not being appropriate for the market (high price of Vita, Wii U gamepad, etc.)?

Vita is due to the gaming dedicated handheld market slowly dying as well as the premium compared to 3DS - no room for a second competitor at all, and with a sputtering game handheld market in NA slowly fading away drip by drip and being replaced by all-for-one products like tablets and phones, even Nintendo will be wondering what to do in a generation or two.

Wii U is just due to every bad choice. Shitty hardware that has already being rendered irrelevant for the majority of third parties; no games; its hardware gimmick is simply not compelling in a mass market setting; and the specter of PS4 and Xbox 720 around the corner which are already guaranteed to demolish the platform hardware-wise, and probably already have better third party support and there's hardly anything announced for them lol

 

[Shaanyboi]

Those WiiU sales...

 

[Scum]

When it comes to the poor Wii U and Vita sales, do most people here thing it's more due to the marketing or the hardware not being appropriate for the market (high price of Vita, Wii U gamepad, etc.)?

There's been bugger all to play on both systems, post launch. And whatever there has been has had next to no awareness at all. They are both in dire need of system sellers.

 

[C4Lukins]

Wii U/ DS/ Vita/ Wii family is not looking too shabby.

 

[AniHawk]

What does Sony even do with the Vita at this point? Wait for Killzone before they drop the price? I've never seen a platform with so little buzz.

honestly, they're just keeping it afloat until the ps4 comes out and they can position it as a fancy peripheral, i think. if that fails, then the system will just quietly be silenced in early 2015.

it's not like it hasn't had anything that has done well. it's gaining some support in japan, slowly. it just wont ever be what the psp was.

 

[slabrock]

Now do the per county numbers.



What does Sony even do with the Vita at this point? Wait for Killzone before they drop the price? I've never seen a platform with so little buzz.

Maybe they are hoping the PS4 integration will push some vitas

 

[shinra-bansho]

But Durante's Wii value is 91k, which is > your DS value of 89k.

Durante hasn't done a NDS calculation, using his method the NDS may end up greater than his Wii number.

 

[donny2112]

haha they just were like 'uh Wii U... look forward to games later!'

I think Sony's done that several times, too. Nintendo's not in good shape.

 

[UberTag]

PSV = 32.4K

[PSV] 34k

Nuts, I was so close. That's what I get for being an optimist.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

So the WiiU did around 200k for the quarter... isn't that a new record or something?

Vita did around 100k this quarter so the WiiU hasn't hit absolute rock bottom yet!

 

[Gonzo The Great]

Poor logic. By your example, Wii U's competition would be PS4 and 720, and those will likely be more expensive than Wii U.

Why talk about the future when we're analyzing March 2013 sales data? Right now the Wii U is competing with the PS3 and 360, and it's failing miserably. Yes, clearly my analysis will change once Sony and Microsoft release their next generation consoles. I was mainly proving wrong PhantomR's claim that Nintendo is "doing what they always do" when in actuality they always used to make affordability and power a top priority.

 

[MoogPaul]

I'll probably pick up lego city when it crashes to 20ish.