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[MasterSheen]

But DK is above LM...

 

[SeanR1221]

They must be satisfied with the sales, or something. I don't think there strategy makes sense, but famousmortimer has said they're satisfied with software sales.

I think they should have a price drop, drop the price of the memory cards (or keep the price the same and make a 64gb Vita) and really play up the remote play features.

I don't think the vita will ever have 3ds numbers but if they can find that niche (seriously, every ps4 game will have remote play, that's awesome) then they could be ok.

 

[DaBoss]

But DK is above LM...

It counts the Wii SKU too.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

3 times of average? So you are saying 3DS owners bough 3 games on average?
I don't believe this, do you have a source?

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/hard_soft/index.html

 

[GulAtiCa]

It counts the Wii SKU too.

That is very odd..

 

[Nirolak]

But DK is above LM...

Does Luigi's Mansion have a bundle?

Those aren't counted in the regular order ranking.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Vita < 16k
Vita + PSP < 20k
DKCR3D < 3DS HW

Goodness gracious.

 

[creamsugar]

2ch guy again this month, good.
Wii U is lower actually. PS3 is better, round issue.

 

[iammeiam]

OK, wait, I still don't understand the Japanese numbers. Nintendo's PR said:

Nintendo 3DS also had two of the top three best-selling software SKUs for the month, with Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D at No. 2 and Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon at No. 3.

DKCR3D as a single SKU outsold Luigi, per Nintendo. So... uh... what? Are they confused by NPD too?

 

[mujun]

That's my outlook, yes. 3DS will benefit from Animal Crossing, PS3 should benefit from The Last of Us... and 360 has... well... ummmm...

Ride to Hell!!!

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

Because it doesn't matter. Sony will just ride this thing out until retailers stop ordering them.

But why would they let it die? I'm sure the Vita has a high enough profit margin for them to be able to drop the price.

 

[Officerrob]

I think they should have a price drop, drop the price of the memory cards (or keep the price the same and make a 64gb Vita) and really play up the remote play features.

I don't think the vita will ever have 3ds numbers but if they can find that niche (seriously, every ps4 game will have remote play, that's awesome) then they could be ok.

Entry level for that niche is over $700 (PS4+Vita+game), that's going to be an extremely small niche

 

[Mileena]

Vita < 16k

bububu indie games, sure thing Sony

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Vita < 16k
Vita + PSP < 20k
DKCR3D < 3DS HW

Goddamn...

 

[jvm]

So are we going with this?

Nintendo 3DS = 114K
Xbox 360 = 114K
PS3 = 84K
Wii U = 36K
Wii = 36K
NDS = 34K
PSV = 15K
PSP = 4K

Did I mess anything up?

 

[jett]

What the hell. What is Sony thinking? Why don't they just drop the price?

Because there's no market interest in the Vita, and they'd rather not lose money on the things. The thing is dead.

 

[dallow_bg]

Poor Vita, doesn't deserve it, but I'm not surprised.

 

[DaBoss]

2ch guy again this month, good.
Wii U is lower actually. PS3 is better, round issue.

Wait, you didn't say anything about the Vita...........................

Is it actually below 10K?

RE:R and Fuse numbers please.

So are we going with this?

Nintendo 3DS = 114K
Xbox 360 = 114K
PS3 = 84K
Wii U = 36K
Wii = 36K
NDS = 34K
PSV = 15K
PSP = 4K

Did I mess anything up?

creamsugar said that Wii U is lower and PS3 is higher, so it isn't clear as to how much.

 

[MasterSheen]

It counts the Wii SKU too.

I forgot that they are including the Wii SKU. So about 5k sold two and a half years after release? Really good legs.

 

[H_Prestige]

But why would they let it die? I'm sure the Vita has a high enough profit margin for them to be able to drop the price.

It wouldn't increase sales. They would literally be throwing money away. The system's toast. The writing is on the wall and Sony can see it.

 

[Tobor]

Really? At most of the retailers I visit in NYC, it has at least one set of shelves to itself. Maybe it's different in other parts of the country, or at retailers like Wal-Mart that don't exist here.

At Best Buy and Target it's the bare minimum. You can't have any less space and still exist.

It's a failure as a retail platform, but there are other avenues. I'd argue Sony might as well keep it around. Retailers could cut the games out entirely and Sony could just convert it to an all indie digital(which is happening anyway). They can also push the PS4 remote play angle.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

2ch guy again this month, good.
Wii U is lower actually. PS3 is better, round issue.

And Fuse...?

creamy pls :BibleThump

 

[Busaiku]

How are the Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D and Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon numbers accurate?
Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D placed higher in the individual SKUs.

 

[GulAtiCa]

So are we going with this?

Nintendo 3DS = 114K
Xbox 360 = 114K
PS3 = 84K
Wii U = 36K
Wii = 36K
NDS = 34K
PSV = 15K
PSP = 4K

Did I mess anything up?

Poor Vita.

 

[AniHawk]

So are we going with this?

Nintendo 3DS = 114K
Xbox 360 = 114K
PS3 = 84K
Wii U = 36K
Wii = 36K
NDS = 34K
PSV = 15K
PSP = 4K

Did I mess anything up?

creamsugar says wii u and ps3 are off at least.

wii u might be better at 32k. ps3 better at 90k? not sure what he means by round issue- like wii u is closer to 35k than 36k or the ps3 is closer to 85k than 84k. i don't know. i just don't know.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

Because there's no market interest in the Vita, and they'd rather not lose money on the things. The thing is dead.

There's no market interest because there are no games. If they wanted sales, they would get their big IPs on the system. IPs like GoW and GT.

Also, if they'd rather not lose money on the system, why did they just announce Freedom Wars? Surely, development of new Vita games would have stopped by now if they planned to drop the system.

 

[creamsugar]

RER < 60K
360 ~ 45.9%
PS33 ~ 43.5%
Wii U ~ 10.6%

 

[GitarooMan]

At Best Buy and Target it's the bare minimum. You can't have any less space and still exist.

It's a failure as a retail platform, but there are other avenues. I'd argue Sony might as well keep it around. Retailers could cut the games out entirely and Sony could just convert it to an all indie digital(which is happening anyway). They can also push the PS4 remote play angle.

What's the incentive for retailers to keep stocking the hardware though? Not a big margin on that.

 

[DaBoss]

OK, wait, I still don't understand the Japanese numbers. Nintendo's PR said:

DKCR3D as a single SKU outsold Luigi, per Nintendo. So... uh... what? Are they confused by NPD too?

Yea, you're right. I guess that person was off a bit?

I forgot that they are including the Wii SKU. So about 5k sold two and a half years after release? Really good legs.

It may have made the difference, but iammeiam just said that Nintendo said DKCR3D outsold LMM as a single SKU, so it is a bit confusing.

 

[schuelma]

RER < 60K
360 ~ 45.9%
PS33 ~ 43.5%
Wii U ~ 10.6%

My God that is just awful all around.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

RER < 60K
360 ~ 45.9%
PS33 ~ 43.5%
Wii U ~ 10.6%

End this generation, Anihawk. Use your old GotY thread powers

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

What did RER do on 3DS again?

 

[Busaiku]

RER < 60K
360 ~ 45.9%
PS33 ~ 43.5%
Wii U ~ 10.6%

Even the 3DS game sold better...

 

[Exterminieren]

There's no market interest because there are no games. If they wanted sales, they would get their big IPs on the system. IPs like GoW and GT.

What does the fact that these titles haven't been announced or hinted at tell you?

Also, if they'd rather not lose money on the system, why did they just announce Freedom Wars? Surely, development of new Vita games would have stopped by now if they planned to drop the system.

A title such as that may get some Japanese niche or similar, but that's it.

 

[Haint]

It wouldn't increase sales. They would literally be throwing money away. The system's toast. The writing is on the wall and Sony can see it.

Hopefully Vita off screen play didn't factor into their decision not to include the PS4 Eye or push for an enhanced Move. That would really be a shame if they're indeed just looking to let it die.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

RER < 60K
360 ~ 45.9%
PS33 ~ 43.5%
Wii U ~ 10.6%

Bwahahaha!!! Burn.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Quickly people, do math!

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

It wouldn't increase sales. They would literally be throwing money away. The system's toast. The writing is on the wall and Sony can see it.

But I love my Vita

 

[DiscoJer]

There's no market interest because there are no games. If they wanted sales, they would get their big IPs on the system. IPs like GoW and GT.

Heck, I don't think there was even a retail release of a game, period, for the Vita in May.

 

[Cheebo]

But I love my Vita

It's dead kiddo.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

Even the 3DS game sold better...

The 3DS game wasn't a port of a 2-year old handheld game.

 

[Exterminieren]

But I love my Vita

That's nice.

Not really relevant here. I like my Wii U, but that doesn't hide its failure in the marketplace.

 

[sangreal]

oh nm thought those were console numbers from creamsugar

 

[MasterSheen]

RER < 60K
360 ~ 45.9%
PS33 ~ 43.5%
Wii U ~ 10.6%

360 < 27.5k
PS3 < 26.1k
Wii U < 6.4k

 

[Guevara]

bububu indie games, sure thing Sony

Not that I'm defending Sony, but most of the hyped indie titles haven't released yet and won't until late summer.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

Never mind that was for RER not hardware

 

[Jaded Alyx]

The 3DS game wasn't a port of a 2-year old handheld game.

The 3DS install base was tiny in comparison.

 

[Y2Kev]

oh nm

oh no you don't! lol

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

The 3DS install base was tiny in comparison.

A large install base does not mean much when a game is competing with a thousand other games.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Generation is over, no surprise.