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[Trigonometrize.]

Watch Dogs sells best on new gen. All the idiots saying the opposite were dead f'ing wrong. So happy about this. When will people/publishers learn that install bases aren't worth shit.

 

[Vinc]

This is disastrous. Wow. That's a colossal market contraction.

You're not looking at the whole picture, people just bought consoles faster this time around. We can't declare this quite yet, current consoles are still tracking ahead of 360 and PS3.

 

[Suzushiiro]

This is disastrous. Wow. That's a colossal market contraction.

Except LTD sales for PS4 are still higher than any other console in history at this point.

 

[malboroking]

Yep. Exactly why that data is pretty meaningless.

Not to mention it ignores the huge supply both consoles sold during the holidays, which both the 360 and PS2 did not have during its first year.

 

[Dragonborn]

Yeah I'm more interested in the whole industry. A lot of analysts were saying before X1 and PS4 came out that consoles sales would be more than last generation. I really don't think the console market is going to come close to that number this generation. i think a lot of people left, are fine with mobile games and don't plan on coming back.

They'll recover as time goes on. I think the PS4 can hit 80 million for sure. X1 can definitely do at least 35 million. It's not going to be 160 million combine but they'll do well. Most of the contraction will be from the wii

 

[gotstrangepowers]

Why is no one acknowledging that MK8 & Watch Dogs came out at the end of the month? June will be huge for WiiU...

 

[Crimson_Gold]

I think may 2007 would be a better comparison

PS3] 81,604
[360] 154,932

And that is without the massive worldwide launches. I think people should simmer down a bit on the industry is dead talk. There is definitely a shift going on, but it is far from dead just yet.

Why is no one acknowledging that MK8 & Watch Dogs came out at the end of the month? June will be huge for WiiU...

That has been said several times. There is a chance this could happen, but it has been brought up that this same argument has been used many times in the past to no avail. There is no guarantee June will be massive for the Wii U due to the release of MK8. We will find out in July.

 

[damisa]

Do you have PS3 numbers?

PS3:
April: 82K
May: 82K

Wii:
April: 360K
May: 338K

 

[hawk2025]

200k > PS4 > 170k
PSV ~= 56k
100k > XBO > 60k
Wii U ~= 60k
~60K > 360 > 50k
50k > PS3 > Wii

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Mario Kart 8 ~= 375k, 6.6% from bundles

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Watch Dogs Sales Breakdown

PS4 ~ 46%
XB1 ~ 29%
360 ~ 14%
PS3 ~ 11%

Total > 1.25M

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Minecraft PS3 89k

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Wolfenstein New Order

PS4 ~ 41%
XB1 ~ 38%
360 ~ 13%
PS3 ~ 8%

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BL2 Vita Standalone ~27k

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Just one correction:

The math actually caps the Xbox One number at 90k, else the PS4 would exceed 200k.

 

[creamsugar]

 

[Plinko]

Posting data for 2 consoles that had zero competition in the console space and trying to compare it to a system that does is asinine.

Is it exact? No. But you can still look at the industry as a whole at the time (handhelds+consoles) and get a decent picture of where things are heading.

 

[eddfromtheriver]

Wonder why Nintendo pointed out 3DS at #2 and nothing about WiiU? If it was #3 you think they'd shout it from the rooftops..

Hmmm... good point.

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

Honestly I can only see it maybe getting to 75 million.

honestly im just saying that to counter a previous posters claim that it wont. no one can see into the future of these consoles so its silly to say it will or wont reach a certain install base.

 

[Busaiku]

And that is without the massive worldwide launches. I think people should simmer down a bit on the industry is dead talk. There is definitely a shift going on, but it is far from dead just yet.

That's 360 in its 2nd year and Wii isn't even being included.

 

[Papercuts]

PS3:
April: 82K
May: 82K

Wii:
April: 360K
May: 338K

Good lord, the wii was insane.

 

[StoopKid]

They both are very front loaded though

How do you know this ?

 

[Chezzymann]

This industry is fucked.

The console section is declining, but the industry as a whole isn't, its just changing.

 

[jayu26]

Software or Hardware? I'm guessing Hardware.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Except LTD sales for PS4 are still higher than any other console in history at this point.

The PS4 is just one console.

 

[Etnos]

Well MK8 is pretty great, so good news: videogame justice.

 

[kswiston]

First April: 127K

First May: 131K

Do you have the year messed up, because I'm pretty sure PS3 did like 80k in those months of 2007.

EDIT: nevermind. Actual numbers posted.

 

[hawk2025]

Is it exact? No. But you can still look at the industry as a whole at the time (handhelds+consoles) and get a decent picture of where things are heading.

His point is precisely that: To look at the industry as a whole and get a decent picture you need to sum up the numbers, not look at just the market leaders, since we are under different competition regimes.

 

[Orthogonal]

Polygon? WTF

 

[HTupolev]

Wow.

 

[Ty4on]

What is this competition I hear people talk about for the PS4? The two consoles that sold a fraction of its sales?

Sub 200k isn't that bad, but disappointing when one of the most hyped next gen titles is launched.

Edit: Dear Pixel peepers, I look forward to seeing your work tomorrow
Good night!

 

[Louis Cyphre]

The console section is declining, but the industry as a whole isn't, its just changing.

The PC will never die.........

 

[Vinc]

To me this just means consoles sell faster, people have been conditioned to upgrading their hardware faster than before. I think we'll see a new generation of systems every four years now, even if it means cross-gen compatibility and smaller upgrades.

 

[Finalizer]

someone get kuchera on the phone

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Even if you add ps4 + x1 numbers sales are still low.

They also did not jump out the gate like X1 and PS4 did so it took longer for people to get one .

 

[Pennywise]

miDnIghtEr20C ‏@miDnIghtEr20C 11s

I always do because I talk pro Xbox! You say something for Xbox or against PS.. you are doomed! I love it




The salt is still strong.


I'm really curious, how these numbers look like next year.
There are so many people waiting to buy a new console, either because of the lack of exlusives or good titles in general.

 

[coldone]

200k > PS4 > 100k > XBO > Wii U > 360 > 50k > PS3 > Wii

Here is my fuzzy math based on these details.
- Total: 186M
- PS4 > 360 + Xbone + WiiU
- WiiU: 61K
- Vita: 56K
- 360 > 50K

 

[Orthogonal]

Software or Hardware? I'm guessing Hardware.

Someone get out your protractors and do some pixel counting. That's gotta be hardware.

 

[Welfare]

What Polygon article did this come from?

 

[Mass Effect]

i'm confused though, is there something wrong with what he's saying? seems like a lot of people aren't even addressing his post and just saying LOLSALT

Well, for one, Midnightrider is a known... hmm... "proponent" of a certain hardware manufacturer.

Not to mention that it's pretty obvious that his post is total damage control. Why else would you even say "B-but Microsoft WON two years of NPD numbers!" when it doesn't even relate to the topic in the way he brought it up. It would be like someone saying "call me back when Microsoft wins 7 years of NPD numbers! (referring to the PS2)" during the 360's dominant years.

The console section is declining, but the industry as a whole isn't, its just changing.

Tablets and smartphones for everybody!

 

[Busaiku]

 

[jayu26]

If this is Hardware, then PS3 might be sub 20k...

Edit: may be not

 

[damisa]

Good lord, the wii was insane.

That was with heavy supply constraints, the next year:
April: 714K
May: 675K

 

[crimzonflame]

The PS4 is just one console.

Its the only console we need.

 

[Glorified G]

Is this the new Mario Kart graph?

 

[Plinko]

Except LTD sales for PS4 are still higher than any other console in history at this point.

But the other two major consoles are selling much, much worse than their precious iterations.

 

[TheXbox]

Is GAF usually this fatalistic about NPD numbers? I don't ever pay attention to these sorts of things, but wow. May was a dead-ass month for new releases until the end, no surprise that everything underperformed. Maybe we should hold off on this doomsday shit until the year is over.

 

[Tripon]

RIP in peace video games.

Guess we're back declaring the video game industry is dead.

 

[vagabondarts]

Hopefully strong Borderlands 2 sales mean we get the rest of the DLC as well

 

[zeromcd73]

That was with heavy supply constraints, the next year:
April: 714K
May: 675K

Mother of God...

 

[Aquamarine]

Do you have the year messed up, because I'm pretty sure PS3 did like 80k in those months of 2007.

Oh you're right, sorry about that.


PS3 April 2007 - 82K

PS3 May 2007 - 82K

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

But the other two major consoles are selling much, much worse than their precious iterations.

Due to their love of shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[Lynn616]

Well, PS4 and XBO are ahead of PS3 and 360, respectively, launch aligned. So not really.

I think that has a lot to do with the long console cycle. I think both will see a severe drop off in sales from here.

 

[cafemomo]

so has the x1 finally overtaken wii u

 

[Crimson_Gold]

That's 360 in its 2nd year and Wii isn't even being included.

The Wii is a phenomenon unto itself, but you are right to include it. 360 had finally been able to get its shipments together around fall of 06 if I recall correctly.

I mention the massive launches of the PS4 and X1 because it shifted the purchasing timetable dramatically. Many people that typically would be unable to purchase a console until now have been able to get them pretty much since launch. That's why doing a launch alignment analysis instead of an individual month analysis would give you a better picture of what is going on.

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

Too many "RIP game industry" posts and not enough actual analysis going on, without actually trying to understand the differences. I don't get it.

agreed. its actually become hyperbole at its worst now.

same thing with "last gen is deader than dead" type posts. yes, we get it, more people are moving on from last gen consoles, stop reminding us.