neogaffer1
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So where are the xbox one sales?
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So where are the xbox one sales?
Wii U? Vita? Alive? Kicking? I said damn.
This would be counting the Wii as part of the contraction when it was really its own thing. The types of AAA games publishers are releasing wouldn't sell well on the Wii. I'm not able to word my point clearly but I'm sure you understand what I'm trying to say. I think it's better to count total sales for the "industry is contracting" comparisons as PS4 + X1 vs. PS3 + 360.
Using something similar to your prediction, let's say 100 mil for PS4 and 40 mil for X1 so 140 mil vs. 160 mil for last gen (80 mil PS3, 80 mil 360, don't have exact numbers). That's not a big deal imo. For the major third party publishers, not having that 100 mil from Wii isn't going to be a big issue considering the types of games they're developing and putting all their money into. Not having that massive Wii audience isn't going to impact Activision's $500 million investment into Destiny, for example.
Using 61K Wii U as base. In 000s.
Code:WII 13 WIU 61 PS3 37 PS4 198 360 58 XBO 79 3DS 90 PSV 58
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360 was supply constrained. PS3 launched at $599 with major issues in hardware complexity.
Superdata, a data company that works with numerous companies including Microsoft, was predicting a massive contraction and ultimately a crash before this gen even began (knowing full well the hype going into it): http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-10-03-gaming-risks-a-repeat-of-1983-crash-report
Some interesting takeaway figures there are the primary gaming platform and its change over time.
2008:
Console = 42%
PC = 37%
Mobile = 5%
2013:
Console = 30%
PC = 51%
Mobile = 13%
These NPD threads would be far more interesting if PC sales figures (which is to say digital/steam) were available. We can check it out for public companies that make it available. It paints an interesting picture to say the least. Here are Ubisofts (from https://www.ubisoftgroup.com/en-US/investor_center/earnings_sales.aspx Fiscal Year Earnings Press Release):
I doubt many here would have ever guessed that PC is currently Ubisoft's best selling platform.
For the new page.Bleh. Since everyone wants to be pedantic. Remeasured.
60.1 as base, angles add to 360 degrees. Sum of Xbox + Wii U < PS4. Vita 56K.Code:Angles Proportion 000s 7.038 0.01955 11 37.472 0.104088889 60 22.481 0.062447222 36 120.774 0.335483333 194 35.387 0.098297222 57 47.464 0.131844444 76 54.538 0.151494444 87 34.846 0.096794444 56
Excellent work.For the new page.
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Seems a little off. creamsugar said the PS4 outsold the X1, 360, and Wii U combined.
1. Wii was still a gaming console, not "it's own thing"
2. I highly doubt ps4 will get to 100m units
3. Massive 3rd party profits were made on Wii. Nearly 2/3 of its 900 million software sales were 3rd party iirc. Not a small number for anyone. It's a big issue.
I'm confused. So the PS4 sold less than last month with Watch Dogs and MLBTS bundles? Are we sure about this?
Maybe it means average world temperatures since the Xbox One launched have been higher than they were for this point in the lifespan of the Xbox and Xbox 360?
This one seems right... thanks.Bleh. Since everyone wants to be pedantic. Remeasured.
60.1 as base, angles add to 360 degrees. Sum of Xbox + Wii U < PS4. Vita 56K.Code:Angles Proportion 000s 7.038 0.01955 11 37.472 0.104088889 60 22.481 0.062447222 36 120.774 0.335483333 194 35.387 0.098297222 57 47.464 0.131844444 76 54.538 0.151494444 87 34.846 0.096794444 56
Which I find to be complete and utter bullshit.
They either had a presence on prior consoles, or the market for "core" gaming contracted with the PS3/360.
PS2 155 million
XBX 24 million
GCN 21 million
DC 10 million
Total 210 million units
PS3 84 million
360 83 million
Total 167 million units.
With Wii the total goes to 267 million units.
Either contraction already took place or Wii brought a marginal increase to the market.
Though it starts getting fuzzier the generation before that (PS1/N64/SS) brought in around 145 million players. Generation on generation increases are the expectation. PS2 generation bringing in 65 million new gamers, Wii generation bringing in around 50 million new gamers.
Separating the markets is folly, bullshit, whatever you want to call it. The problem for home consoles isn't that Wii was a fluke or fad. It's that another competitor swooped in and stole them away. This time from the traditionalist market entirely.
Bleh. Since everyone wants to be pedantic. Remeasured.
60.1 as base, angles add to 360 degrees. Sum of Xbox + Wii U < PS4. Vita 56K.Code:Angles Proportion 000s 7.038 0.01955 11 37.472 0.104088889 60 22.481 0.062447222 36 120.774 0.335483333 194 35.387 0.098297222 57 47.464 0.131844444 76 54.538 0.151494444 87 34.846 0.096794444 56
This is what I got.Bleh. Since everyone wants to be pedantic. Remeasured.
60.1 as base, angles add to 360 degrees. Sum of Xbox + Wii U < PS4. Vita 56K.Code:Angles Proportion 000s 7.038 0.01955 11 37.472 0.104088889 60 22.481 0.062447222 36 120.774 0.335483333 194 35.387 0.098297222 57 47.464 0.131844444 76 54.538 0.151494444 87 34.846 0.096794444 56
Wii U? Vita? Alive? Kicking? I said damn.
Using a protractor (might be somewhat off, my protractor is slightly messed up)--
Anyone want to double check my math? I rounded a bit.
Clockwise on 8 part pie chart
1 Wii 7° 2% [B]<12k[/B]
2 WiU 37° 10.3% [B]60k[/B]
3 PS3 22° 6.15% [B]36k[/B]
4 PS4 120° 33% [B]<193k[/B]
5 360 35° 9.8% [B]57k[/B]
6 XB1 48° 13.35% [B]78k[/B]
7 3DS 56° 15.6% [B]91k[/B]
8 PSV 35° 9.8% [B]57k[/B]
Bleh. Since everyone wants to be pedantic. Remeasured.
60.1 as base, angles add to 360 degrees. Sum of Xbox + Wii U < PS4. Vita 56K.Code:Angles Proportion 000s 7.038 0.01955 11 37.472 0.104088889 60 22.481 0.062447222 36 120.774 0.335483333 194 35.387 0.098297222 57 47.464 0.131844444 76 54.538 0.151494444 87 34.846 0.096794444 56
So Nintendo family > Xbox family?
Man, Nintendo needs a 3DS revision stat.
At most I expect each to sell another 10 million units a piece.PS2 was out for 12 years for those numbers maybe you should wait until PS3 and 360 dead before saying before add them up to make your point .
What if only one console (PS4) was over 100k last month? Would that be possible?
Holy Shit! Ps4 won!
There´s no way BL2 2 years old port to sell the system. Oh....
The funny part is that it was only 4k difference from the WiiU which had MK8 bundle.
everyone needs a revision and a price drop and cheaper software and more software.
under 200k for the top-selling platform in the us with the next best-selling platform under 100k is horrifically bad. boy do i hate being right all the time.
if we were to compare to the previous gen, 2007 may npd would be the best comparison.
May NPD 2007
Nintendo DS - 423,000
Wii - 338,000
PSP - 221,000
PlayStation 2 - 188,000
Xbox 360 - 155,000
PlayStation 3 - 82,000
May NPD 2013
Ps4 185k
3ds 85k
One 75k
Wii U 60k
PSV 50k
this new generation has got some work to do, the winning console of this year would have lost to the ps2 in 2007, different circumstances i guess but it is a little worrying
Bleh. Since everyone wants to be pedantic. Remeasured.
60.1 as base, angles add to 360 degrees. Sum of Xbox + Wii U < PS4. Vita 56K.Code:Angles Proportion 000s 7.038 0.01955 11 37.472 0.104088889 60 22.481 0.062447222 36 120.774 0.335483333 194 35.387 0.098297222 57 47.464 0.131844444 76 54.538 0.151494444 87 34.846 0.096794444 56
There´s no way BL2 2 years old port to sell the system. Oh....
The funny part is that it was only 4k difference from the WiiU which had MK8 bundle.
So you predicted Vita selling 19 times as much this month then last?
We really really hope so.Xbox One sales seem actually bad. I guess everyone is waiting for the unbundling?
Bleh. Since everyone wants to be pedantic. Remeasured.
60.1 as base, angles add to 360 degrees. Sum of Xbox + Wii U < PS4. Vita 56K.Code:Angles Proportion 000s 7.038 0.01955 11 37.472 0.104088889 60 22.481 0.062447222 36 120.774 0.335483333 194 35.387 0.098297222 57 47.464 0.131844444 76 54.538 0.151494444 87 34.846 0.096794444 56
This is what I'm expecting. Especially considering the comments Reggie made.
You expected otherwise?!
Someone should really double check my numbers, my protractor melted together with a triangle so I wasn't able to be really accurate.
At most I expect each to sell another 10 million units a piece.
That's if they stay on shelves for the next four years. Something I doubt Sony in particular does. Which would still equal a deficit of 20-25 million units.
It was a new model and released far earlier in the month than MK8. Honestly it's a pretty bad number. Vita will be back to to normal in June.