i don't think e3 matters a whole lot in the context of the broader market regarding immediate sales. if it did, it may get swallowed up in mario kart 8 hype.
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NPD Sales Results for May 2014 [Up1: Wii U Hardware]
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i don't think e3 matters a whole lot in the context of the broader market regarding immediate sales. if it did, it may get swallowed up in mario kart 8 hype.
James Sawyer Ford
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Not a fair comparison given the supply/demand differential between 360 vs PS4.
2007 is a more apt comparison.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Is 617k not amazing for game in the US on a handheld that dying ?
Unless i reading the number wrong .
Don't let anyone show you Tearaway numbers, then. Vita owners are worse.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Yeah, that's like 200% attach rate, Vita owners liked it so much that they bought it twice!
Thunder Monkey
Banned
maabus1999
Member
Again since we have multiple cross gen titles showing 80% next gen adoption rates, it shows the current market (of those who buy games) is nearly saturated. Dont expect much hardware growth here on out. I don't care what console fans want who to win or want to lose, the overall market is showing major warning signs.
I'll probably add to those DKC numbers next week at Target's Buy two get one free deal for Wii U games.
ethomaz
Banned
Second Son.
And going forward, it doesn't help that there was very little announced for the system at E3.
I wonder if Nintendo will jump to a successor next year...
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I know is easy compare anything to the Vita to make it look nice/not that bad, but we should stop doing that.
AcademicSaucer
Member
And to think that nintendo had to publish that game is the west, the same with fantasy life, i just cant with some japanese third parties
gundamkyoukai
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Now i get lol .
Nightengale
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Yoda
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I don't think another sub 100k month would be the end of the world for Xbox. Remember how long the PS3 turnaround ended up taking; granted the PS3 had far more systemic problems than giving your fanbase the finger as they launched the console. If the trend continues I assume as long as the Xbox division isn't dipping into the corporate bank account to stay afloat the higher-ups won't change their strategy regarding the division as it pertains to this generation.
I do think Microsoft wants to compete with the lower level entry boxes somehow, and the consoles no longer can do that given their price. They will need to announce something similar to Playstation TV/Amazon Fire/Chromecast/etc... within the next year.
Orthogonal
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Compared to historical numbers, it's not that bad. This Holiday they should do well and we likely see the first real hardware price drops in 2015 from MS, Sony or both which will spur the real tidal wave of adoption.
Level 5 doesn't have a Western publishing arm.
....Yeah, Square-Enix has no excuse at all.
astrogamer
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DKCTF did about 20k in May
Lightning Returns did about 40k more since Feb
PVZ did 287k since Feb
FFX PS3 did 58k since March
South Park did about 67k since March
Titanfall did 29k on XB1 and about 60k on 360 in May (my numbers may be a bit off since this doesn't add up to the main chart)
Dark Souls did 71k since march
Second Son did about 35k in May
MGS did 79k sales since march
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I can't still get over the fact that BD did like 50k more than LR....
is just nuts...
is just nuts...
Justice_Bolt
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I don't think 75k for Xbox one can be called 'ok'.
SwiftDeath
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Eh they're not particularly bad or good I would say. I think it's probably very good for the series but apparently infamous has always been a mid-level series sales-wise. I doubt the budget was too big relative to other AAA games
Kacho
Gold Member
Yeah, Xbox One and Wii U hardware numbers will be a show. Good or bad.
evilromero
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I'm curious if a fully 3D Metroid sequel from Retro would have sold better.
Nightengale
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It did slightly less than double of Infamous 2's first month in NPD.
by giving nintendo bravely default, square enix was able to focus on a worse-performing game in an established series available to an audience four times the size.
Relaxed Muscle
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Yes they have....
Thunder Monkey
Banned
No next year will be a more apt comparison to 2007.
Being on the market for the same amount of time and all. At the rate we're going at least one (leaning on One myself) will be behind their predecessor in a LTD stance by then. PS4 likely won't be too much higher than 360 LTD in America if this rate is consistent as well. I doubt it falls behind 360 LTD, but if this is the bar, they very well could in America by the spring of 2016.
Orthogonal
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Said in every NPD thread. The next month will always be interesting and it will.
Will the Kinectless SKU re-energize the Xbox One?
Can a full month of the MK8 bundle resurrect the Wii U?
Can PS4 hold the line?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
tropical freeze numbers make baby black Jesus cry
maabus1999
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I know people keep sayitnv that but honestly its ignoring modern consumer electronic trends and disruptors. The previous generations from 8 years ago are not that great of a comparison, mark my words.
Glorified G
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How is SS selling over 600K for one SKU in one region in two months bad? Unless CoD is the only metric used when evaluating a games sales.
I dont think so either. The market will constrict like it did for gens before but I think it will happen ALOT faster then last gen.
Well duh, but the effects of Mario Kart will be fun to follow to see what the tail off is till their holiday releases.
Did you forget how horribly awful sales of the 360 and ps3 were in the beginning? That isn't a baseline to want to be compared to as a market leader. Did you forget that 3rd parties owned like 2/3 of Wii software sales (again iirc)?
Just dance is supposed to be an extremely large profit Center for Ubi btw. They famously financed a lot of expensive things with a lot of cheap things. If the cheap things don't sell anywhere near as much anymore...
If they do, they have done a really good job of hiding it.
pieatorium
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taking a single month out of context, is it completely irreleant to you that the ps4 sold in 2 months what the 360 took what 5months? Is It irrelevant that the 360 was sold out for several of those months? The Xbox one is also well ahead of ps3 not just because of its fantastic start and this month is only slightly behind ps3 month and thats with an early price drop announcement.
There were doom articles in january with poor numbers remember? then febuary boosted everyting again. I just don't see the sense in basing your entire point off one month.
SwiftDeath
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Updated with LTD's
Edit: See HERE for most up-to-date summary
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PS4 ~ 194k
3DS ~ 87k
XB1 ~ 76k
Wii U ~ 60k
360 ~ 57k
PSV ~ 56k
PS3 ~ 36k
Wii ~ 11k
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Mario Kart 8 ~= 375k, 6.6% from bundles
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Watch Dogs Sales Breakdown
PS4 ~ 46%
XB1 ~ 29%
360 ~ 14%
PS3 ~ 11%
Total > 1.25M
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Minecraft PS3 89k
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Wolfenstein New Order
PS4 ~ 41%
XB1 ~ 38%
360 ~ 13%
PS3 ~ 8%
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BL2 Vita Standalone ~27k
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LTD's
DKC: Tropical Freeze [WiU] 258k
Lightening Returns FF [PS3] 135k [360] 71k
PVZ: Garden Warfare [XB1] 257k [360] 150k
FF10HD [PS3] 259k
South Park SoT [360] 279k [PS3] 228k
Titanfall [XB1] 969k [360] 559k
Dark Souls 2 [360] 212k [PS3] 209k
Infamous SS [PS4] 617k
MGSV: Ground Zeroes [Total] 357k [PS4] >179k
Edit: See HERE for most up-to-date summary
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PS4 ~ 194k
3DS ~ 87k
XB1 ~ 76k
Wii U ~ 60k
360 ~ 57k
PSV ~ 56k
PS3 ~ 36k
Wii ~ 11k
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Mario Kart 8 ~= 375k, 6.6% from bundles
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Watch Dogs Sales Breakdown
PS4 ~ 46%
XB1 ~ 29%
360 ~ 14%
PS3 ~ 11%
Total > 1.25M
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Minecraft PS3 89k
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Wolfenstein New Order
PS4 ~ 41%
XB1 ~ 38%
360 ~ 13%
PS3 ~ 8%
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BL2 Vita Standalone ~27k
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LTD's
DKC: Tropical Freeze [WiU] 258k
Lightening Returns FF [PS3] 135k [360] 71k
PVZ: Garden Warfare [XB1] 257k [360] 150k
FF10HD [PS3] 259k
South Park SoT [360] 279k [PS3] 228k
Titanfall [XB1] 969k [360] 559k
Dark Souls 2 [360] 212k [PS3] 209k
Infamous SS [PS4] 617k
MGSV: Ground Zeroes [Total] 357k [PS4] >179k
Orthogonal
Member
I'm just trying to be optimistic because it's been Doom and Gloom for the industry for a long time now and this is the first positive month in several years I think so that is promising. I would hate to see the industry go through a major crash. I know some folks cherish the thought of the death of AAA gaming and a revolution in the Indie world, but I fear it. I love me some AAA and think of all the folks that would go out of work permanently, scary.
Actually I think GBA was doing these numbers even longer than a year after. I distinctly remember "GBA vs PS3".
Dragonborn
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Nope, they're actually pretty good
Anyone know about how poor Mario Golf: World Tour did? Any rough estimates? I'm a little sad it didn't do a little better considering how good the game is and how much things they put into the game compared to Mario Tennis Open and Mario Tennis Open last I check managed to sell a million.
Relaxed Muscle
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They published Guild 01 and Guild 02 games on the west.
the wii u was already up year over year for almost every month. with mario kart, it will probably have raised the baseline to a point where it doesn't dip below 40k like it did routinely last year. not that it sounds particularly impressive, but the system will probably sell a million units in the us this year. maybe even a million more from where it currently is.
Wow and Kirby hitting the top 10 
Too bad Nintendo didn't pick up Yokai Watch too but Level 5 Asked on Twitter if we wanted it and there have been trademarks filed for if.
More like those games helped spark an interest in the 3DS, I guess.
People like to play Kirby games. Acadoental evidence, but in my twitter feed, there was a bunch of baseball writers who were talking about how good Kirby Triple Deluxe was. One of them had a 3DS and the game (and he downloaded it), another seemed interested especially that it was a tradtional platformer, and another person chimed in that he only had a Nvidia Shield and knew he was doing it wrong. lol.