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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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Megatron
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Actually the npd predictions thread looked to be about 50-50, at least from what I saw.
Stilton Disco
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Aw, just woke up, and it's a shame CBOAT got banned. Curse their meddling heart! A tiny sales gap was far more entertaining.
Well, a 300k-400k lead for the XO is very impressive though, I must admit. I'd figured on 200k at the most myself. Kind of weird why they brought up the UK as well then mind.
Still with such high sales I do wonder how big a loss they made. If $400 is roughly breaking even, and they were going for $70 dollars less than that, 1.2m sales would have lost them around $84m, and that's before adding on the cost of those free pack in games they'd need to have paid the publishers for, and all the tie in marketing, and the loss of revenue from free Gold subscriptions and Live vouchers.
Obviously they can't go on making such a huge loss, the Shareholders would be apoplectic, so I'm very curious to see where they go with this now. Price rise in January like they said, and just hoping that doesn't kill their sales momentum, or something else?
Well, a 300k-400k lead for the XO is very impressive though, I must admit. I'd figured on 200k at the most myself. Kind of weird why they brought up the UK as well then mind.
Still with such high sales I do wonder how big a loss they made. If $400 is roughly breaking even, and they were going for $70 dollars less than that, 1.2m sales would have lost them around $84m, and that's before adding on the cost of those free pack in games they'd need to have paid the publishers for, and all the tie in marketing, and the loss of revenue from free Gold subscriptions and Live vouchers.
Obviously they can't go on making such a huge loss, the Shareholders would be apoplectic, so I'm very curious to see where they go with this now. Price rise in January like they said, and just hoping that doesn't kill their sales momentum, or something else?
ProvenDeadly
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A. I am pretty confident outside of the gaming circle, no one even knows this thing exists
B. I'm pretty sure people people don't know exactly what it is
People know what an xbox and a playstation are. No matter what generation it is in, they are known brands. When Nintendo launched the Wii U, nobody knew what the hell it was.
theSlacker
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Yeah knew that, thought people had gone beyond that though since the claim in the first post was that Xbone outsold ps4 in both US and UK. Thanks for clarifying it though.
Use something like imagej
Wow nice that Xbone is back! But I'm still very sad and disappointed to see that Smash Wii U didn't do anything for Wii U
How much did Vita sell this month?
What's a Vita?
i kid, I've actually seen some vita adverts lately which supprised me.
Daffy Duck
Member
How odd that CBOAT would claim what he did.
Pleased for MS though, very good numbers for November. December is going to be an interesting one for sure.
Pleased for MS though, very good numbers for November. December is going to be an interesting one for sure.
ProvenDeadly
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I keep seeing people say that Xbox lost money, do we know what a kinect-less xbox costs MS, and how much they sell it to retail for?
Riky
$MSFT
Pretty suprised with that gap, really thought PS4 woukd still win. 360 owners have had a good version of Destiny and nice ports of Titanfall and Forza Horizon 2 so probably haven't felt the need to upgrade as fast as PS3 owners this year. Really thought Wii U would have done better, has it even matched Dreamcast?
Nope, I think the average prediction was around 100k more for the Xbox One. But yeah this surpassed people's expectations.
It's not that, it's the bundled games, the console was going for about $200 by the time you remove the packed in value of the offered bunduru.
Retail Kinect v2 is $150.
Of course...they will be performing seppuku in cherry blossom season this coming year.
Lmao what the hell is this and what is it from?
Rhazer Fusion
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Imho, Nintendo isn't even trying compared to the competitors. The bundle awareness wasn't remotely near as aggressive, price is still too expensive. Microsoft and Sony commercials all over the place. Black Friday bundle deals everywhere. I mean the price for the Wii U is close to an Xbox One. Practically zero marketing and advertising. Where was the Bayonetta 2 commercial? No Wii U commercials either. I think I saw a Smash Bros commercial once, I think. I guess they are concentrating more on profit, breaking even instead of garnering marketshare.
Nice numbers for PS4 and Xbox One. I thought Xbox One would pull further ahead with those bundles and pricing, but still good nonetheless. I don't think it's going back up to $399 after this now.
Also, where is Dragon Age? I thought it sold reasonably well. If it really sold less than expected, this is why you should release all of your AAA games at the same time game companies!!!!!!! Not everyone can buy 5-10 games in the same week or month.
Nice numbers for PS4 and Xbox One. I thought Xbox One would pull further ahead with those bundles and pricing, but still good nonetheless. I don't think it's going back up to $399 after this now.
Also, where is Dragon Age? I thought it sold reasonably well. If it really sold less than expected, this is why you should release all of your AAA games at the same time game companies!!!!!!! Not everyone can buy 5-10 games in the same week or month.
Didn't think public perception of the 2 consoles was this close. So basically Ps4 -GtaV+TLOU (around 90$ together?) = 310$, Xbox one -AC:U+ Black flag (around 70$ together?) = 260$
So basically a 50$ value difference allowed xb1 to come out well on top, so if xb1 keeps the 349 price tag for a regular bundle compared to 400 for ps4 for a regular bundle, it should do very well in december and going into the new year. Unless Sony cuts the price of course which I don't expect to happen before e3 2015
So basically a 50$ value difference allowed xb1 to come out well on top, so if xb1 keeps the 349 price tag for a regular bundle compared to 400 for ps4 for a regular bundle, it should do very well in december and going into the new year. Unless Sony cuts the price of course which I don't expect to happen before e3 2015
joecanada
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So their aren't free games included?
Definitely.
Wait...you expect a slim version of the PS4 to be announced at E3?
Nah. Just because they lost one month in one continent due to Microsoft being desperate doesn't mean anything. They still have worldwide which is much bigger.
What's really more important is that they made more profitability while Microsoft's been losing some due to the $350 price tag along with constant deals, etc.
freenudemacusers
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i expect no less than at least one consecutive minute of executives bowing to investors
Maybe. I am not an insider or something. Just analyzing the trend. But I see a definite price deduction though.
Rhazer Fusion
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Nightengale
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GTAV/TLoU bundle only sold 340k.
Wasn't there a $349 unity bundle with 2 extra games on top though?
The trend that PS4 is outselling everywhere but two markets around the world for a single month?
speculawyer
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Holy shit. 109 pages?
Xmas NPD is serious bidniz.
Xmas NPD is serious bidniz.
theprodigy
Member
to be fair, if cboat hadn't thrown the thread for a loop for the first 40 pages it wouldn't be as long
freenudemacusers
Member
just think, we might outpace the wii u by tomorrow!
MaulerX
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I'm surprised no one has added bish's avatar face to the butts. The kid inside obviously being cboat.
Emedan
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Wait what? Because MS won one month? That's not a trend.. Unless these price cuts for XBO sticks you can be sure the PS4 will outsell the XBO every coming months, that's what the trend points at
Holiday season matters the most. If this trend continues with Xbone selling at a sweet price with games and shit, the gap in NA will be much closer. If I was in the position of Sony, I would follow a similar strategy.
lolosgolos
Banned
PS4 is strong but they will have to give some incentive if MS holds the 350 price point.
vicissitudes
Banned
No it's just one month. That's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. However, if they lose December as well (which is a real possibility now) then there's at least a chance they'll consider going third-party.
Omegabalmung9
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I can see that kind of price in 2016-2017 but not for 2015. I'm betting on a $349 price announced at E3.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
*sigh*
But what about the world where Sony is at something like a 2:1 lead?
Slash prices and say fuck it to profit?
joecanada
Member
It was never overlooked, it's been common throughout generations that cheap consoles will sell. All PS4 has to do is match price to go back to dominating
$349 with an exclusive game bundle seems about right.
Good thing you're not Sony.
Is Sony really in a dire situation like this?
The Artisan
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what is that pie supposed to mean
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