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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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This is probably what they're talking about. Nadella obviously hasn't caved to their demands, and may never. But the push is there, and real.
-edit- I really need to add a link...http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...osofts-new-ceo-to-kill-xbox-bing-and-surface/
There's more information out there, but I doubt they'll come up with the votes to make it happen. Unless Gates got on board, which doesn't seem likely.
Bitch Pudding
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Perfect, that makes agreeing on that fact easier, doesn't it?
.(I did not say you did)
Yes, only the corporation's management accounting knows all numbers.
Welfare
Member
Ah, thank you
Lovely.
Bitch Pudding
Member
MS said that the 50 US$ price cut is just temporary, right?
Now that we know the November results: Who thinks that they will really go back to the 399 price tag?! Would't that kill any momentum the One just gained within an instant?
Now that we know the November results: Who thinks that they will really go back to the 399 price tag?! Would't that kill any momentum the One just gained within an instant?
Aquamarine
Member
The LTD difference dropped 31% in one month. It's indeed very encouraging for Microsoft if they can manage another significant win in December.
Doesn't make sense go back for $399. People will not buy and wait for another price drop.
I think they will keep $349, but without bundle, just the console.
That is where it should be given consumer perception and all.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Fucking EA!!
Thanks for clarifying. I really wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt there. It's a shame though.
The Xbox 360 had similar $50 breaks for at least two holiday seasons, and the prices went back up in January each time. The 360 was in an entirely different situation, however.
Psycho_Mantis
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It still remains to be seen if the XB1 can even catch up to the PS4 in its strongest territories: US and UK. Let alone bridge the ever growing gap in EU and other areas.
gundamkyoukai
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We have to see how things go but i won't say it works .
From a profit stand point they losing out and if they get out sell whole year and then get back lets say half they still behind.
Then there going to come a point in time when consoles prices so low it not going to matter as much .
Dragonborn
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Halo 5 bundle for $299 would kill in NA.
Michael F. Assbender
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LTTP: MS appears to have won November quite handily. Who would've guessed.
Besides just about everyone.
Steverulez
Member
Not cboat apparently!
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Touché.
CrispyGoomba
Member
Any idea where Kinect Sports Rivals ranked?
Microsoft web store glitch...
If the average discount was $110 and they sold 1.2m that's $132,000,000. Assuming the average price was around $400 that's 330k units "given away" or lost sales revenue.
Worth it for the new revenue stream?
A few games, accessories and word of mouth can do wonders. The sales show how taking an up front loss to counter price sensitivity can help sales.
Of course, part of the sales could be Playstation owners now jumping in too. They already had their machine and were waiting for the green machine to be an attractive price.
*Numbers don't factor margins or negotiated deals, etc.
They saw the spike in sales and green lit another sequel! Jk.
Worth it for the new revenue stream?
A few games, accessories and word of mouth can do wonders. The sales show how taking an up front loss to counter price sensitivity can help sales.
Of course, part of the sales could be Playstation owners now jumping in too. They already had their machine and were waiting for the green machine to be an attractive price.
*Numbers don't factor margins or negotiated deals, etc.
They saw the spike in sales and green lit another sequel! Jk.
It still bothers me how Microsoft bunches all of their major releases into the holidays and leaves the rest of the year lacking. It makes business sense, but I wish they would spread out their releases so we could look forward to new things year round. During the shopping season I'm normally looking for deals on games that I passed on earlier, rather than new $59.99 stuff.
I am glad Microsoft did well and by a large margin since, assuming they stick with the new price of $350, that means that Sony will eventually lower the price of the PS4 so that XB1 does not get too far ahead in the US. All and all, Microsoft's win this month is good for consumers.
Sales parity is not competition, but the second-place company offering better deals for consumers than the first-place company is and being awarded with vast amounts of purchases by consumers because of it is absolutely competition.
Sales parity is not competition, but the second-place company offering better deals for consumers than the first-place company is and being awarded with vast amounts of purchases by consumers because of it is absolutely competition.
So the 20 year old sold see em kay?
Going by that fissure slowing down that is.
We talked about this issue a little earlier.
I wonder if it would be in bad form to have such a thread? Or if I should just make a thread with the intent of discussing how badly we're hurting our own art form while we wait for the bargain bins to appear before diving in.
People forget that nearly 50% of 360 sales came from the states(?)
Lets be really clear. The UK has really shitty internet. I hate being forced to go there...but best effing beer culture though(sorry Belgians but good talk makes it better)
Going by that fissure slowing down that is.
We talked about this issue a little earlier.
I wonder if it would be in bad form to have such a thread? Or if I should just make a thread with the intent of discussing how badly we're hurting our own art form while we wait for the bargain bins to appear before diving in.
People forget that nearly 50% of 360 sales came from the states(?)
Lets be really clear. The UK has really shitty internet. I hate being forced to go there...but best effing beer culture though(sorry Belgians but good talk makes it better)
Andronicus
Banned
and that MS had a year head start or nah?
firebranded
Member
Damn, they really made some headway quick. Was probably why they waited till November so it's the biggest shot fired, plus people are more ready to flow their cash for accessories, DL games, etc.
Forget Microsoft, I wish publishers and devs would space out their heavy hitters more throughout the year.
That's why I love Rockstar. They've always released their games during May and always around my birthday!
speculawyer
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Yeah, remember all that "Consoles are dead!" talk?
Both Sony and MS are. This is as silly as saying all Sony focuses on is Uncharted, Killzone, and Gran Turismo.
"Stop making sequels of your biggest/most popular franchises guys!"
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Yeah, remember all that "Consoles are dead!" talk?
I love it. Both the Xbox One and PS4 did very well.
That as well.
Welfare
Member
Well, one is almost anyway...Yeah, remember all that "Consoles are dead!" talk?
But still, lol.
Yeah, remember all that "Consoles are dead!" talk?
See Opiate's posts earlier in the thread. Celebrating that the PS4 outsold the PS3 in its first months is like celebrating that your left hand is better than your girlfriend.
walltowall
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Aren't the biggest Xbox exclusives multiplayer focused games? Halo, Forza, Gears, etc.There is a very high probability they would buy live then.
Yeah, remember all that "Consoles are dead!" talk?
Well, the market is not PS4 and XBO only, as it was't 360 and PS3 only.
Bear in mind, selling hardware at a decent loss was the modus operandi for the previous generations. It wasn't their plan during this one, but they are pretty much at where they were at 360 launch from the perspective of selling hardware at a loss in order to build a user base and hope to make money on them down the line.
rokkerkory
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there's no way they will go back now, should be a $50 drop across the board and make it most territories
Chobel
Member
I know right, I thought it's a bad strategy but seeing the results here, holy crap! This strategy is actually good.
Thanks!
Real late to the thread and trying to catch up, but just wanting to throw my own hat into the ring for a marker.
WIU - 37.6 degree
PS4 - 129.5 degree
XB1 - 192.9 degrees
Using 242K for WIU
=>
PS4 - 833K
XB1 - 1.24m
Going back to working through thread ...
alexandros
Banned
I laughed out loud, nice!
Chobel
Member
LOL! This is good.
rokkerkory
Member
Welfare
Member
Why wouldn't you just use the Xbox number to get the rest?
Chobel
Member
Wii U number is official number (kinda) from Nintendo. Xbox number is not.
kingkaiser
Member
Yeah, remember all that "Consoles are dead!" talk?
Well, let's see
The console market as a whole is shrinking compared to last gen
PS4 and Xbox One sales are by far not enough to close the gap the Wii left
Software sales are disastrous compared to last gen (Software Revenue is down from $1.70 billion in November 2006 to just $1.06 billion in November 2014)
hodayathink
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Then what exactly was Infamous?
Apple switched because of "Thermonuclear War" from Steve Jobs. Facebook switched because Microsoft invested in them. I would think Yahoo switched because they see themselves as a direct competitor at this point, but that one I'm not sure. In other words, no one switched because they actively wanted Bing, but because they either received money to switch or actively didn't want Google.
Welfare
Member
Aqua did give us a pretty exact number for the One however.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Yeah man. That dude is cherry picking numbers instead of seeing the big picture.
That doesn't mean bing is irrelevant, it's actually a very relevant alternative to google search.
Chobel
Member
She did? I must have missed it. What was number?
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
How many holiday seasons do you think they are willing to sell a console for 70 dollars off + 2 or more games + 50 dollar gift cards at retailers?
You speak as though this was all part of some grand plan. It was an urgent necessity to keep the mind share and brand viable before it was too late in the only market they have a chance in. At the very least if they can stay relevant in the US they have some life left otherwise it would be over.
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