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[tuna_love]

How come when people thought I was way off with my xbox wins by 400k to 500k prediction my posts got called out. But now that it turns out to have been pretty accurate nobody points it out?

It was drunk luck

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Cboat was banned? Was that figure accurate with the 10~k difference?

 

[BeatResetsTheWorld]

I would love for Xbone and PS4 to basically be dead even in the US for most of this generation...imagine the quality of games and system features that would produce...

The exact same? I mean, the vast majority of games are multiplatform between them and I doubt being dead even will bring out the "best" in either company as much as being behind would

 

[HariKari]

Its so sad some people are more interested in seeing companies suffer than good games do well.

Suffer? That's taking the humanization a little far. All people want is for them to learn from past mistakes, nothing more.

 

[Neuromancer]

when they seen their competitor lower their price, and offered games for free. They should had matched it, or even lowered theirs further, but instead they kept the same price. I don't think I need to repeat myself on the quality of exclusives....Didn't they learn a lesson with the PS3, with the higher price? I call that arrogance.

The difference is Sony is still trying to make money with their system, not lose it.

 

[enzo_gt]

Super Mario killer 3 - 4 ~ 99k, 3 ~ 34k

RPG of the month < 600k
PS4 ~ 43%
XBO ~ 32%
360 ~ 16%
PS3 ~ 9%

Yikes. LBP3 is one of the best platformers I've played but it was sent to die, and then had so many issues at launch

 

[NateDrake]

Cboat was banned? Was that figure accurate with the 10~k difference?

Not even close.

 

[sense]

Outside of ND, Sony exclusives are under performing recently, especially on the PS4.

Both DC and LBP 3 bombed hard.

infamous and killzone didn't

 

[Ty4on]

How the hell did you catch that?

A bajillion people reading right now so someone has to get lucky

Your post was the most recent for me when I quoted it.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Man, I can't believe cboat did that. He seemed like such a good guy, too.

I really think he was talking about LTD 700k to a million is the gap. Trying to help figure out month sales with that.

He didn't fix his post or anythint so.. Who knows pretty crazy to make that up if so.

 

[IAmRandom31]

Let's not forget NPD only counts retail sales, not digital downloads.

Ah yes, so add another 25-30% to the totals.

That seems to be the common number. 20-25-30% or so depending on the region and game

 

[bananafactory]

Source?

We don't have official sales numbers but the leaderboards in the game have around 650k people registered. Safe to assume it sold close to a half million, at least.

 

[theprodigy]

How come when people thought I was way off with my xbox wins by 400k to 500k prediction my posts got called out. But now that it turns out to have been pretty accurate nobody points it out?

now you know to get drunk before making your NPD predictions

 

[SwiftDeath]

LBP seems to have bombed. Not sure what they expected releasing it on that date with little fanfare.

Not sure how to feel about Dragon Age numbers. Probably low?

 

[Papercuts]

Cboat was banned? Was that figure accurate with the 10~k difference?

He was only off by about 390K.

 

[vpance]

I would love for Xbone and PS4 to basically be dead even in the US for most of this generation...imagine the quality of games and system features that would produce...

Can it possibly get better than Unity and Destiny?

 

[Awntawn]

Ah yes, so add another 25-30% to the totals.

That seems to be the common number. 20-25-30% or so depending on the region and game

Where do we get this number?

 

[Vestal]

What's with all the CBOAT bashing? Someone please xplain?

Look at his sole post in this thread.


Look at PIE

Look at extrapolated numbers from Pie + WiiU numbers.


= BAN

 

[kyser73]

1240k and 840k actually.

that's because it's 1240k and 840k

Thanks, missed them in the insanity of the thread.

 

[allan-bh]

Not sure how to feel about Dragon Age numbers. Probably low?

I don't think so.

 

[inbit]

edit: nvm, beaten

 

[vin-buc]

I wonder how Sony will respond (will they respond?). I could see a price drop to $350 after the holidays and a 1TB SKU for $399. Although I think that a game included is more appealing than a bigger hard drive.

Respond to what? Its status quo at Sony. They have a great product and its selling well - no fire sales necessary. Should they see something after January - I would expect something at around the launch of The Order. If that. They still haven't played their price drop card so they have the advantage.

Sony is out to have a healthy business and be profitable.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

LBP seems to have bombed. Not sure what they expected releasing it on that date with little fanfare.

Not sure how to feel about Dragon Age numbers. Probably low?

On par with Origins launch and better then Dragon Age II launch.

I'd say it's pretty good after how much DAII sullied the series' reputation and good will.

 

[Amir0x]

LBP seems to have bombed. Not sure what they expected releasing it on that date with little fanfare.

Not sure how to feel about Dragon Age numbers. Probably low?

I think The Order is going to bomb too with the way Sony is handling the PR for the game.

Sony sure makes some bizarre choices in terms of their software, as brilliant as they can otherwise sometimes be

 

[IAmRandom31]

Where do we get this number?

What data we have seen over the past months from digital sales it is generally in the 20's% range

There are numerous press releases about it, sure they could be dug up

 

[Madness]

I really think he was talking about LTD 700k to a million is the gap. Trying to help figure out month sales with that.

He didn't fix his post or anythint so.. Who knows pretty crazy to make that up if so.

Please. What guy comes in in first page, writes that and then leaves and then the next like 30 pages are basically reactions to his post. He knew exactly what he was doing. Look at all the reaching being done to try and say oh no, it was a typo.

 

[foltzie1]

Reminds me of this:

A long debunked story with little to no truth or sense even on its face?

http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp

 

[Rembrandt]

We don't have official sales numbers but the leaderboards in the game have around 650k people registered. Safe to assume it sold close to a half million, at least.

If one person has PS+, can't every account on that system play online, too? That could inflate numbers.

 

[BeatResetsTheWorld]

For all the talk of software decline, why aren't people taking DD into more consideration? Perhaps the migration is bigger than we think, especially for games available on PC.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the platform with likely the least popular digital distribution platform in Nintendo is the one that is topping the software retail charts despite the lower userbase.

Based on what? In all likelihood, digital sales on the Wii U/3DS are comparable to those on the PS4/XBO in terms of how far off they are from retail sales. Nintendo has constantly been stressing that digital is making up a bigger chunk of software sales and the online connectivity rate for the Wii U is something like 80+%

 

[ArkkAngel007]

They should get a decent bump from PSX.

I don't think there's enough attention to an event like that to make much, if any, difference.

I expect XBO to probably top NPD again December, but then begin to slip back through January and back behind no later than March.

Then again, if the trend ends up fanning out with everyone buying what everyone is buying, there could be a good tail end to this uptrend for the XBO. But I'd expect that would be the only case, as there isn't much for the XBO to bank on in early 2015. I think the main marketing platform for the system will be Evolve which, while I enjoy it, doesn't have the wide appeal to rest the momentum of a system upon.

Then again, I'd say the same for Bloodborne, which is fantastic to the core and will sell well for a FromSoft title. As a massive drive for console adoption...eh.

Edit: Same with The Order. Could be the Gears of War (visually) that would attract a lot of attention, but the game has no momentum behind it with how it's being handled. And from a core perspective, the gameplay is still a bit of a question even after the fantastic B-roll footage.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Do you think this trend will continue in December? Sony better have some good deals.

I think it'll be closer in December but Sony really does need to do some special bundle and maybe a trade-in program of their own to cap as much of MS's momentum as they can. I still find it hilarious you can trade in a PS3 for credit towards an XBO. Without knowing any better you'd think it'd be illegal.

In fact I think a trade-in offer would do better than dropping the price, that's probably been a silent tool in MS's corner for too long.

 

[bananafactory]

Yikes. LBP3 is one of the best platformers I've played but it was sent to die, and then had so many issues at launch

When you consider it's only on 2 platforms, it's not as bad of a view.

If DA sold 600k and that was 43% PS4 and 9% PS3, that means DA sold 312 000 on Playstation platforms.

LBP sold 134k, which is just under half (42%) of Dragon Age's sales. Considering how much more popular Dragon Age is at the moment, that's actually about the best you could hope for.

It was simply a very crowded month with too many games, some of them had to struggle.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

He was only off by about 390K.

Lol

 

[AmaterasuOni]

Both DC and LBP 3 bombed hard.

And yet DC was one of the best selling games digitally and it still has that PS+ digital discount. It didn't bomb at all.

 

[CaptainGyro]

Who needs all these so-called insiders when one groovy dude called all this way back in May '13 in a thread titled "Xbox One will be Number One in Sales"... *whistles*

what? You were talking about the original model and we all know how that turned out. Your prediction was so great that microsoft totally abandoned their plans to sell it the way it was

 

[Neuromancer]

No he has not at all.

Case in point number 1: Titanfall

A farce he should have been permed for though he was banned. Putting developers at risk for sales loss over total BS is an offense that shouldn't be tolerated anywhere.

Keep back seat modding, it's very entertaining.

The men and women at Respawn can take care of themselves. They have accounts here too.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Please. What guy comes in in first page, writes that and then leaves and then the next like 30 pages are basically reactions to his post. He knew exactly what he was doing. Look at all the reaching being done to try and say oh no, it was a typo.

Just so we are clear Im not defendimg the guy. Just seems fucking crazy. Makes zero sense really

 

[shamanick]

I wonder how Sony will respond (will they respond?). I could see a price drop to $350 after the holidays and a 1TB SKU for $399. Although I think that a game included is more appealing than a bigger hard drive.

No way they'd blow a sales driver like a price drop and/or a new SKU in fucking January. Gonna be at least until September for that. In the very worst situation (say, XB1 selling 2:1 for 3 months) it will be June at the earliest.

 

[RoboPlato]

It'll be really interesting to see where hardware sales go from here. I figured early 2015 would be a runaway for Sony since the XBO lineup is rather sparse but now I'm not sure.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Well, the numbers don't seem to match the white chart using the Wii U number from November (Difference of 150k for PS4 and Xbone 60k), but here are the LTDs I have:

Wii U 3.088 million
PS4 5.65 million
Xbone 4.898 million

 

[JNA]

I think The Order is going to bomb too with the way Sony is handling the PR for the game.

Sony sure makes some bizarre choices in terms of their software, as brilliant as they can otherwise sometimes be

They really do. And all it does in the end is make people think that all of Sony's exclusives are just "movie cinematic" games.

Then again, more of the Last of Us is always welcome.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

People wondering if Sony reacts?

Sony: looks at data for WW PS4 sales.

Closes spredsheet.

 

[allan-bh]

I expect XBO to probably top NPD again December, but then begin to slip back through January and back behind no later than March.

With this huge win december is on lock. But Q1 2015 indeed look more promissing for PS4

 

[Fortu]

 

[CrazedProfessional]

Competition is hype.
The only thing disappointing is Dragon Age but I guess the series lost a lot of good faith after DA2 and SWTOR. Bioware is pulling daggers out of its own heart in order to regain that good faith. It'd be even worse if their C&C remake wasn't cancelled. Free to Play bullshit, glad it's dead.

 

[Vestal]

Then again, I'd say the same for Bloodborne, which is fantastic to the core and will sell well for a FromSoft title. As a massive drive for console adoption...eh.

Yeah I don't buy Bloodborne as a system seller, at least not in the US. The Order needs a major PR makeover in order to win the favor of the masses in the US.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

And yet DC was one of the best selling games digitally and it still has that PS+ digital discount. It didn't bomb at all.

Orochi likes to pull stuff out of his ass.

 

[tapedeck]

The exact same? I mean, the vast majority of games are multiplatform between them and I doubt being dead even will bring out the "best" in either company as much as being behind would

Dead even was probably a poor choice of words, what I mean is Sony winning a few months then MS winning a few and back again. Basically keeping both companies continuously in catch up mode.

 

[Speevy]

I miss the days when the narrative wasn't so confusing.

 

[Off-Kilter]

when they seen their competitor lower their price, and offered games for free. They should had matched it, or even lowered theirs further, but instead they kept the same price. I don't think I need to repeat myself on the quality of exclusives....Didn't they learn a lesson with the PS3, with the higher price? I call that arrogance.

If nothing else, NPD threads always do a fine job in exposing people with very little business acumen. Arrogant Sony indeed :lol :lol

Anyway, good for Microsoft, shame about cboat, damn shame about LBP3. Game deserves a lot more love.

EDIT: Regarding Nintendo, very happy about Smash Bros. I just wish they got to move more Wii Us.