rokkerkory
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Why would cboat even troll like that?
Arrogance got to him finally
Arrogance got to him finally
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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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vpance
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Conceivably Sony could win NPD by 50k for the first 10 months next year and the gap will be back to what it was in Oct. Seems like a reasonable scenario. Then the crazy ass deals come out of the woodwork again for Nov 2015.
It's not that simple worldwide. Not all countries agree on what are "better games" and "value".
Cboat is not a unknown, he has just lost his way.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Seriously, it's not like the 360 just stopped outselling the PS3 in North America when the new consoles arrived. Both will probably cap out around 90 million.
ProvenDeadly
Member
I'm pretty sure this is every thread. One of these "sources" posts some cryptic message or graph and it doesn't get explained/varieties until 40 pages later.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
more like incredible how far back the price was dropped with free games added in for the X1 to win a month lol.
RyanPierre
Member
I wonder how long it will take all that stock to clear. I saw earlier today that the Day 1
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shinra-bansho
Member
Not really in recent years.
On a per week basis December has been lower than November for the 360 and PS3 since 2011.
Greatest thread I've been a part of
Syphon Filter
Member
Yea mainly because of the headstart remember. from 2008 and on PS3 was selling more WW.
For me is pretty obvious that Xbox One sales was because $329/349 price tag and 2 free games.
It's not because Assassin's Creed, it's the idea of a cheap console with free games. If they are CoD Ghosts and Advanced Warfare, sales will be at least the same (Probably bigger because CoD has more appeal).
It usually doesn't take very long for graphs to be interpreted.
Hawk269
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But the COD bundle cost more than the AC bundle, so that part of your analogy is incorrect.
There was the standalone Xbox One without Kinect for the same price as the AC bundle. Anyone in their right mind would buy the AC Bundle over the one without any games at the same price. That is the main reason why it was sold so well over the other versions of the Xbox One.
How far did you get before you posted?
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Deleted member 59090
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220k is last year. Not that it's much better this time.
What trouble though? At $399 - thus higher profit margins - they sold a really high amount too, no slouch. Microsoft went a different approach, and gained significant ground (gap is now 750k-800k) but with diminished profit margins. They definitely had a strategy that worked out fantastic, because they made real ground and I believe that momentum will lead them to at least 250k victory in December. Next year gets interesting.
The reality is PS4's worldwide lead is unassailable, so it's really just a fascinating race to see how close things are going to get in US and UK, the only territories XBO has any viable chance of making up any real ground. Still never enough for worldwide, but enough to hit at least 45-50 million by gen's end. Successful enough, no doubt.
These numbers have made the game very interesting in the US now. The long term strategy is what fascinates me, because what can be seen as a victory today might go wrong tomorrow. Remember, Sony's 2015 lineup is formidable and they definitely have the first six months locked down from that perspective. Will they connect one of the big games next year with a high profile price cut, amplifying the effects on both software and hardware? PS4's maintained their price for a longer period of time, leading to pent up demand, could have just as explosive a return over its competition during that time. Making back up the gap MS made in November/December.
There's a host of possible scenarios. If MS stays at $349.99 - and how could they not? - they have to sell a bit more each month to make up for the profit margin decrease. So much depends on if Sony wants to stubbornly cling to $399.99 until Holidays, or if they see MS creeping up on them close enough they might spring it by July. Who knows. So many different scenarios means so many possible avenues for one or the other to gain ground.
Of course MS has Halo 5, although one wonders if the recent Halo: MCC stuff will dampen initial explosion of sales somewhat as people wait for hands-on observation that everything works the way it should.
Would probably me a bit hard. Assuming that they are planning right now, they have a 14-15 days to make a bundle, release it and market it for it to have the biggest push(Christmas and Day after gift card sales). They would probably be better off selling it as is and not have to worry about marketing and price cut.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
It's really crazy how much we've been agreeing over the past year.
I think this is a very logical amount.
Brofist
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Far enough to read that the original post was full of shit. Felt good posting though.
Diprosalic
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nice month for XB1, this must've cost them a fortune.
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#thingsyoucandowhenyouarefilthyrich
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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when one console is equivalent to the Dolphins of 72 and the other is like the Bills of the 80s you can call it over lol.
Nightengale
Member
Sony would realistically need another "Destiny" type of push though. Something that accelerates its lead pre-season, because realistically speaking, whatever the outcome of December NPD, PS4's lead was given significant buffer thanks to Destiny + White SKU.
Though that depends on how competitive Sony is for next holiday. Realistically speaking, they should be better prepared this time round, unless MS ups it up another notch in 2015.
It also doesn't even make sense because these price cuts and deals aren't even available WW!
My hair ain't even a bird.
I could see it being bigger if MS just sat back and waited for Nov/Dec again. PS4 has far more exclusive coming out, which they didn't have this year. I can't see them putting the price back up either, that would be crazy.
A Human Becoming
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It varies. For the Wii U last year December sales were double, for some systems they're about the same. Rarely are they less than November.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I know that Sony will not likely to lower the price any time soon. PS4 is selling well. But the bundles are overpriced imo
They really aren't.
I know I'll be arguing against myself here but still.
The race to the bottom is not a healthy thing to do. It's filled with crap upon crap. Do we really want our consoles to imitate the various mobile software stores?
Buy a PS4, pay $50 to unlock BD, pay $30 to unlock vod services etc etc?
As I can see the problem with not selling a console I'm more afraid of how cheap everyone is. If the platform holders die due to the fact that everyone is Scrooging it I'll be first to point a finger and tell everyone how stupid they were. Please no significant price cuts until the third year. No console under $300 until it's fifth year please.
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smh
Please tell me where he was arrogant? Or is being wrong because of <unknown reasons to us> arrogant?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
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SwiftDeath
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Wii U's 2015 numbers at this rate are going to be profoundly bleak. I am not looking forward to seeing those results month after month.This is going to be one slow Titanic sinking
No offense Ami but I don't know why in December of 2014 anyone could use the titantic as a metaphor for Wii U sales. They were never large to begin with and most certainly aren't going to be slow to sink to the bottom [again actually so was the titanic a submarine?]
Pity really I guess but Nintendo needs to get 3rd party support because that assuredly seems to be where the market is now. Unless of course it can create its own sustainable market segment which would be better but like that seems like a big risk.
Better than I predicted. Still YOY bleed is real.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Yeah looks more like a yellow turd.
Lol god damn.
Ol No Bones
Banned
This thread really needs the Phil Spencer effect picture.
Big drop from last year, but expected.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I meant Nintendo is the titanic itself, not the Wii U
I don't know how bad it is going to get from here. Trajectory is only down from here, you and I both know that. It is really ... 12 million max? I mean, Dreamcast levels now. This is easily Nintendo's biggest console flop at this point, unless we count Virtual Boy.
djblackice
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It is and there are plenty of GAFfers and banned GAFfers rejoicing on Twitter like they won the latest mega millions. Hopefully they don't delve into TimDog territory because that would be really fucking sad.
I actually wish I wasn't pointed towards these Twitter handles because they now make me sad as I slowly lose respect for these posters.
MaulerX
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vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I think Sony has it in the bag really. Hard not to see that when u take worldwide sales into account. Only thing is, Sony is not in a position as a company this gen to step on MS's throat. At least they know not to f around come next November when the situation may most likely look similar to this November given the games outlook for both Sony and MS Q1 - Q3 2015. Looking forward to what MS will do as far as pricing in January.
shinra-bansho
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You're not usually this forthcoming Mr H. Not that I'm complaining.
Much obliged.
Terrible number though.
Much obliged.
Terrible number though.
Sakura
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Sony losing NA to Microsoft, and Japan to Nintendo. They really need to step up their game.
But she looks like a dude.
But she looks like a dude.
A Human Becoming
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Where did you see this? You no longer have a source, correct?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
I thinks its dead everywhere outside Japan but i could be wrong.
Thanks. Seems good, what did 3DS do last November?
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