James Sawyer Ford
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So does this mean PS4 sold ~1.6 million? Wow. What a monstrous month for Sony. Doesn't that match the best November PS2 had?
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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So does this mean PS4 sold ~1.6 million? Wow. What a monstrous month for Sony. Doesn't that match the best November PS2 had?
Great month for the industry. Looks like the supposed NPD poster was quite wrong in his "analysis." Both consoles seeing healthy increases. Surprised to see CoD still leading sales on xbox, usually the Sony marketing deals have been quite effective. Kind of a marketing switcheroo to see Fallout lead on Sony as well. I would have thought bethesda games had a much stronger association with xbox.
Lets hope next month countinues the stronger trend in growth next month.
Legit surprised to see a Wii title leading in the top 10, its probably been years since that has happened?
Sad the TR didn't chart. It's my GOTY so far. Hopefully it gets some legs. It should have released in september or next year, much like Alan Wake it was really hurt by bad timing.
Lets hope next month countinues the stronger trend in growth next month.
Legit surprised to see a Wii title leading in the top 10, its probably been years since that has happened?
Sad the TR didn't chart. It's my GOTY so far. Hopefully it gets some legs. It should have released in september or next year, much like Alan Wake it was really hurt by bad timing.
You keep saying it's the "adult" thing to do. It's not, it's petty and childish. When something you used to like goes in a different direction the adult thing to do is spend your energy on things you do like, not relish in misfortune.
Steverulez
Member
Mainline Halos take 3 years, 343 have said that. Halo Wars 2 by Creative Assembly is coming out next year, though.
Led_Zeppelin
Member
We all have games that represent that for us and the paths or "evolutions" we don't want a series following or taking. And you are right Hitman Absolution was one of those type of games, DmC was another (dear lord I hated DmC and I am glad it under performed and is dead, I think I will open a beer just for celebrating that DmC is still dead) and I can see how Tomb Raider 2013 could be like that for a lot of fans of the franchise.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
I will chastise the fuck out of anyone who wants stuff to fail because they don't like it.
It's the most childish way of expressing your opinion. I have a hard time even grasping the point behind it because it's so unbelievably poor presentation.
Out of all the fanboy shit on NeoGAF, it's shit like these posts that is the worst.
It's closer to 1.5m vs 1.3m. Gap slightly above 200k according to all the different sources put together.
shinobi602
Member
Yea, you're certainly entitled to have that view, as ridiculous as it is. You want something to fail because *you* don't like it. That's not being an adult. It's being a child. I think the "adult" thing to do is accept that things change, some not to your liking. Most adults come to terms.
Fortunately the game's quality has been extremely well received both by critics and the majority of players, apparent from feedback here, on social media and elsewhere. Almost guaranteed Square recognizes that fact and less than stellar sales equates to their decisions from exclusivity and release timing rather than the game's quality.
I'm wondering if we'll get another statement about worldwide sell-in when it hits 35 or 40 million, and also how soon that might occur.
RichiRamjag
Member
So I'm never able to outright dislike a product? I hate the Joel Schumacher batman films, I don't care who worked on them. They were terrible movies and insulting. If someone else likes it, then fine, I wouldn't try to convince them otherwise.
Oh get the hell out of here. If a product doesn't cut it, then it deserves to fail. That's voting with your wallet. I'm not sure where the fanboy nonsense is coming from. I own all three consoles and a PC.
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Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not bothered or sad that the game sold terribly, after all they made terrible business decisions. But he's pretty much chastising other people's tastes, and he honestly can't expect not to be called out on it.
Everyone gets a trophy!
gundamkyoukai
Member
I really do think PS audience like there TPS types games even counting The Order lol .
outunderthestars
Banned
I think we have found the ceiling for the core Nintendo fanbase.
Does anyone still think they are going to wait until 2017 to launch the NX?
Do we have any estimate for the current gap in NA with the inclusion of these numbers?
Gotta be holiday 2016, unless they wanna wait for more games to have at launch.
Gotta be holiday 2016, unless they wanna wait for more games to have at launch.
7DollarHagane
Banned
If they really want halo 5 to be a competitive game they can't do yearly or even bi-yearly releases.
5 years is nothing in a competitive sense. They should keep improving the game that exists and try to keep it selling to new xbox one buyers.
Primethius
Banned
That seems a bit low, though I confess, I don't know how worldwide sales typically operate in November/December.
PS4 has been typically doing 1 million per month so far. Now, it's done about 1.5 million in NA alone. I feel like the WW number is closer to 3-3.5 million for the month.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
i think teh handheld will launch next year, console, not so sure
Sure you do!
Anyway, some weird software numbers but hardware is looking ok. Not WiiU of course. That shit is slightly depressing.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Holy shit just read the last few pages. I certainly do not miss your over dramatic industry analysis. We get it, you don't like the direction of the new Tomb Raider. That's how this industry is, it's a bunch of imitators attempting to capitalize on other franchises riches. This clearly didn't work out for them. Guess what? You also won't get a broken ass tank controlled classic Tomb Raider set in the prehistorical jungle with acrobatic mini-games in Ask Jeeves break room, so stop whining about it.
Seriously. Get over it.
who are you even lashing out against? nobody is acting that way to your posts
Slightly above 1m.
Whoa where'd you get 50 for that trade in?
ConfusedGamer
Member
Wow PS4 sold approximately 1.5 million consoles in November. I didn't expect this at all.
Don't do unto others what you wouldn't want done unto you.
It's highly inefficient and even ridiculous to want something to cease existing simply because others' preferences don't align with yours.
How would you like it if something you liked had ceased to exist because everyone else was against it? You'd have to move on, right? That would be the efficient outcome, correct?
Turns out the effiecient outcome is the same in this situation. Instead of hoping it bombs just because you don't like the new direction, accept it and move on.
Primethius
Banned
A bit over a million.
Well the biggest exclusives for Sony last gen were the Last of Us and Uncharted.
Obliterator
Member
If they release it at full price next Holiday versus the monster 2016 Holiday titles I don't see how it won't bomb for a 2nd time
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Here's the thing, any game coming out within the vicinity of Battlefront, Halo, Fallout, COD, etc. was going to fail. Keeping the game exclusive on one platform and not really marketing it as aggressively as those other games also didn't help. What Square Enix or MS or whoever decided to chose November 10th as it's release date should be fired. I get fall is big for games and they wanted this to be a big game but moving it to December or even January would've been better for its chances.
If US alone was ~1.5M, worldwide had to be well over 3M in November. Isn't PAL-land pretty much confirmed to be bigger than the US for the PS4 based on the NPD and Media-Create numbers we have, plus Sony sell through announcements?
RichiRamjag
Member
Don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping for joy, or praising the heavens. I felt like they made some bad choices in regards to exclusivity, launch date, and marketing. It's only natural that there are repercussions from the consumers and I'm not ashamed to be glad to see the market working as intended.
As I've stated before, if consumers purchase and support the product, then I'm fine with it. I'm not going to be sad if I see consumers voting with their wallets on what I consider bad practices. If I make bad decisions professionally, then I expect to be held accountable just the same. You guys can keep taking it to the extreme to try to act like folks are tap dancing over it flopping all you like, but this isn't the case.
It will launch 1 year latter and in the Holiday period again. Do you really think the game has a chance of doing well? Because I certainly dont.
PC may be its only chance.
Pretty much this. It comes off the same way console warriors do. "This thing I don't like needs to die and I don't care that others might like it!"
Don't support it yourself, move on, and go enjoy something you do like.
I'm not going to re-quote the ten or so people that responded to my posts with precisely that attitude because they couldn't stomach hearing someone be mean about TR because it was "reviewed well" and because it's "mean" to be happy something you think is shit bombs. You'll just have to read the conversation again and put the words together.
I don't have a problem with criticism. Hell, I love reading reviews and critiques of games, music, movies, etc. that tear the content of the media apart. I just think gleefully swearing about how much a game or movie sucks when it sells poorly is a bit childish. It's not a very meaningful way of critiquing the art form. You can do what you want, and I even see where you're coming from here, though, so I don't have a problem with it or have my feelings hurt.
Though, to counteract your point, I don't think the Eidos marketing team is going to see these Tomb Raider sales and think "well, I guess we need to go back to what made the old games great," because really, when was the last time a classic Tomb Raider-style game sold well anyways? Though I could be wrong, who knows, we are getting a Psyconauts 2 so anything could happen.
Also for the record I've never played a Tomb Raider game in my life, originals or reboot, so I don't have a dog in this race either way.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Can see them hitting 35 million easy by they end of the year .
They were at 30.2 million before Nov .
Yep or maybe we wrong and it's just ND games lol .
DriftingSpirit
Member
I think it surpasses the best November of PS2.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I think we have the found the ceiling for the ultra-core Nintendo fan who is willing to pay $250+ for a system without a number of key franchises.
I think the market for a less expensive console with a more robust library of Nintendo offerings is larger. How much larger, though? Perhaps not as big as Nintendo would like, but we'll find out in the coming years with NX.
And yes, NX is absolutely launching next year. There's no way Nintendo wants another holiday like the past few they've had.
I was under the impression the deal primarily involved 'offsetting' the apparently expensive task of marketing. I didn't see much of any marketing, though.
Steverulez
Member
Some people are just haters, better to leave them to it in that instance.
If consumers pay $60 for HD remasters like The Last of Us, I don't see why that would stop people from buying rise of the tomb raider just because it was out on another platform a year back. Most will probably see it as a new game (not knowing of the xbox ones exclusivity /not caring) and considering a lot of people bought the 2013 reboot: I don't think it will necessarily bomb again
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Deleted member 80556
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Oh me neither, the market worked as it should, I suppose! His repercussion is a bit over the board, in my opinion. I mean I respect that he hates the modern incarnation of some games, and that's completely acceptable, I simply don't think that this game bombing will give him what he wants, which is another classical TR game, or happened because it was not a classic TR game.
I don't think we're disagreeing, BTW! Also, I haven't even touched the game, or even liked the reboot all that much, so I'm not really saying he's being mean to whatever opinion I might have.
Square made their bed now it's time to lay in it. I have absolutely no sympathy That TR bombed.
Primethius
Banned
Eh, I disagree. Their are plenty of valid reasons for wanting a game to fail. Maybe not all of them are applicable here.
I've wanted plenty of games to fail over the years and I don't understand why it's remotely childish.