DeepEnigma
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PSX was a little more than that.
All you have to do is look at the back of one to know it was a little more than that
I believe it had DVR capabilities before DVR was a mainstream thing.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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I believe it had DVR capabilities before DVR was a mainstream thing.
935k with 30% digital is ~1210k. 358k with 20% digital i got around 70k, So, it's 420 k. And someone bought Halo 5 limited edition for Black Friday? Somebody gave 450$ for Halo 5 bundle? That bundle was out of top 100 on Amazon monthly chart for Nov.
Probably because its nothing more than google glass really.
AR is cool in its own way(non gaming wise), but a totally different animal than VR which could be amazing for anything.
Primethius
Banned
Didn't we get UC numbers (or bundle numbers) last month? I can't seem to find them.
Aye. XB1 will have a good 2016, but between the high profile indies, the 1st party AAA exclus, and the big titles from Japan (all that on top of many eagerly awaited 3rd party titles) will mean a plethora of riches almost every single month on PS4.
Even if a few titles get delayed (TLG and Horizon worry me, not sure about the status of WilD), 2016 is likely to be a banner year for PS4 (in no order, not comprehensive for console exclus alone: Shadow of the Beast, Rime, The Witness, Abzu, The Tomorrow Children, Bound, Horizon, Uncharted 4, Dreams, NiOh, Persona5, Star Ocean5, No Man's Sky, Drawn to Death, Gran Turismo Sport, MLB 16, Street Fighter V, King of Fighter XIV, Gravity Daze 1& 2... ) perhaps even better than what 2009 was to PS3 imo.
theprodigy
Member
935k/1300k=71.92% physical, or 28.08% digital
you're not doing the digital calculation right, it's the percentage of total sales not percentage of retail sales
Katana_Strikes
Member
My goodness looking at Terry's chart reality just set in. WiiU sales in this peak selling month are as good as what a normal month for the PS4 is.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Mhm, agreed.
We'll have to see about X1 but PS4 will have to be up in the pre-season. Uncharted 4 will be a big hardware mover and all those Japan games (with the reduced PS4 price) will help keep it up through the year.
I just wonder how the holidays will be handled to be on par or surpass this year. Assuming the rest of preseason in next year is up though, the PS4 may just need to be on par with numbers this holiday in order to be up overall.
But where is that info for 1300k in October? Any link?
Zhuge posted that it did 1.3 mill physical and digital compared to halo 3 3.3 mill.
The 1.3 probably isn't an exact number but probably rounded up
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I am curious what the actual CoD split was including bundles. I am not surprised that it sold better on Xbox One given how much that brand has been associated with that console for so long.
Nevertheless, it seems like MS losing the 30 day DLC window didn't hurt them.
Nevertheless, it seems like MS losing the 30 day DLC window didn't hurt them.
That deal enabled Sony to sell 200k ish more consoles in November with the bundle, so I don't know about that.
Rounded down.
935k physical, which includes 93k bundles.
Digital is around half of physical bundles not included.
842k standalone physical
421k digital
93k bundles
1.356M total for October
No problem. I think we've covered it.
Honestly the Ps4 has already won this generation and if MS was smart they need to spend the rest of this gen rebuilding their public perception and trying to gain some momentum heading into the next gen.
The XB1 reminds me very much of the PS3 in terms of both having a poor launch filled with a negative perception. The PS3 with $599 price point plus few games during first year and XB1 with DRM fiasco, Kinect, and an underpowered console. After the poor launch though Sony was able to bounce back by releasing a Slim PS3, price drops, and releasing great exclusive games that by the end of the gen they had removed most of the negative perception and had momentum leading up to the Ps4 reveal/launch.
They wont catch the Ps4 this gen so it is time to start looking forward. I think MS needs to employ a similar strategy that Sony used around 2009 that IMO shifted the PS3 perception.
1. They should release a slim XB1 accompanied by a price drop to $269 by Summer 2016.
2. Introduce many more new IPs at E3 or maybe even earlier at event throughout the year
3. Possibly revive older IPs or release remasters of popular OG Xbox or 360 games (Crimson Skies sequel? KOTOR sequel? Jade Empire? etc)
If they can do these things I think they can start to rebuild their public perception and finish in a respectable 2nd place with some momentum as they go into the next gen.
It can't be exact at all. He isn't an insider, so he doesn't have access to MS digital sales data, which only MS would have. Unless there is specific PR, it is unlikely anyone can claim to know the exact digital % of sales this gen for anyone.
We don't need an exact number with the physical NPD we can derive a reasonable figure. That will essentially give us a idea of how well it performed in relation to past games in the series.
You don't think they would have sold more consoles if they had CoD bundles like they used to?
Dash_Riprock
Member
I don't think we'll be seeing the full ramifications of the CoD DLC loss for at least another year.
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
Next-gen war updated: PS4 almost doubled last November; Price drop success! Xbone flat. WiiU stable.
LTD:
PS4 10.8m [ten million barrier broken]
XBO 9.7m
WiiU 4.6m
Gosh, when you look at that graph the WiiU sales look tragic, even if not compared to the PS4/X1... Under 100k for the first eight months out of the launch period. There's no wonder that support for the system has dried up and Nintendo is pushing forward with the NX so quickly.
I think Queso mentioned 67:33 physical to digital for October. So I guess he got the digital number somehow
although Raist makes me think the digital was higher
Sony handily outsells Microsoft in their only close territory when they have Uncharted Collection and Microsoft has every single core exclusive franchise they possess (Forza 6, Halo 5: Guardians, Gears of War, Rise of the Lady Warrior) available and your conclusion is that Microsoft wasn't hurt by the Call of Duty partnership?
Read the thread. First month digital sales for Halo 5: Guardians were already posted several days ago.
I'm not sure how you in one sentence can say that the split including bundles is still unknown and then proceed to declare the Xbox One version the best selling in the next sentence.
The first DLC also hasn't even released yet, so there's still time for the CoD diehards on Xbox One to get impatient and jump ship.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Definitely shaping up to be that way
I still have faith in AR since it doesn't require glasses and doesn't cut you off from the real-world in such a jarring way, but on its own it definitely won't have the same impact as VR, unless holographic displays w/ touch feedback are any more feasible at the consumer level now than they've been before. :/
Primethius
Banned
No. But we have a pretty accurate number for Halo 5 sales.
It's at 1292k. This number doesn't include hardware bundles from November, which probably isn't a large number anyways given that the hardware bundles in October didn't do much.
Even with digital, 2 million is a bit far fetched.
cartographer
Member
Hm... Zhuge said. But Zhuge said also this :
So, what is it then?
It hasn't cracked 1.5 million in NPD's numbers, which doesn't include digital.
EdReedFan20
Member
Or bundles. So for all we know, Call of Duty could've done better on PS4 and Fallout 4 could have done better on XB1. We only know how well the stand-alone retail versions of those games did. Star Wars: Battlefront has to be huge for Sony, as it lead on PS4, plus there were probably lots of digital sales, as well as PS4 Battlefront bundles. I'd be really interested to see how much it sold with all that combined.
Primethius
Banned
They do track bundles. Just not in the top 10 listing.
Welfare
Member
But Zhuge said also this :
With digital it has but without it, it has not.
1.3m was for October.
cartographer
Member
But Zhuge said also this :
That's really not contradicting anything.
He put (NPD) in his original tweet for a reason.
EdReedFan20
Member
Ah, okay.
So, that put's Halo 5 in 1.7 mil. ballpark with digital, isn't it?
Wouldn't those people have anticipated they'd jump ship and buy a PS4 during the holiday as it's the cheapest?
So Halo is 1.3m physical and has a 30% digital attach rate?
Does that mean 1.85m physical + digital?
rokkerkory
Member
Halo 5 is a borderline pretty good / great game, what hurts it was the HMCC mess and lack of split screen co-op I feel.
For October. Digital sales for November are less.
I also have a little theory about the 'mood' of the launch for Halo 5 when compared to the launch of Black Ops 3, which released shortly after.
CoD Blops 3 was in full hype mode around the time of Halos release and was receiving exceedingly positive previews. Halo 5's pre-launch hype was good, but didn't feel nearly as big or impending as CoD's buildup. People were looking at Blops 3 as a sort of redemption for the last two games being good, but not Blops good.
I dunno, maybe I'm off base, but I feel like the massive positive press for Blops 3 might of hurt Halo 5 a bit, especially with people more wary since the release of MCC.
cartographer
Member
No. Nov. digital rate likely lower, potentially by a significant amount. Nov. bundles probably negligible given low performance of the bundle in Oct.
Errr the physical have dropped as well, so the ratio could've remained constant unless someone mentioned otherwise?
Also, the game was on sale for Black Friday on the digital store, $20 or 20% off, I don't remember which. So it could've picked up quite a few purchases due to the sale.
probably. If it gets like a $20 promotional cut sometime this month, it should be able to get over 2 mill in the US by the end of the year.
No game stays on top forever Halo just has series fatigue imo. The die hards are still around the younger generation prefer Cod.
Why? I deduced the numbers from his ratios.
cartographer
Member
Could have. Most likely didn't. But could have.
Add 93k bundle from October, looking at probably ~1.7 million tops without November bundles.
I see.
First off, a model every year isn't going to work for game consoles and I highly doubt that will happen. technology is moving at a rapid pace and these companies cannot stick to traditional methods to survive. Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it won't happen. With a ton of games coming out just for new gen starting next year it is time to introduce a new model to satiate the crowd that wants the extra power and wants to own the latest hardware.
I mean just look at the elite controller or the "new" 3ds, people lapped it up. You got Nintendo even advertising the fact that monster hunter runs better on the new 3ds which obviously pissed people off but guess what I don't see what a backlash would do? People that want it will get it or they will stick to the system they have. People didn't have a problem with the elite controller when it was announced but the price raised some eyebrows and people laughed it off and I see people are slowly giving in and buying it because it is very good and they like it. That's all it comes down to - choice
If there are people out there that want to play a game like witcher or blood borne at 60 fps or without any performance issues they will pay the extra 100 or 150 bucks and get a premium version of ps4. I know there are people out there that will say "get a pc" but I am positive there is a vast majority of people out there that would prefer not to put up with pc and its complexities and would rather have a console. Why do you guys think valve is trying to get into the living room?
This hypothetical premium version will probably last the next 3 years before a ps5 would come out imo.
igordennis
Member
Cosmic has said the phys/digital ratio goes down with time as i recall it.
Beautiful Ninja
Member
That's pretty logical, at launch between preorders and price parity, that seems like the prime time to go digital. Games go on sale at retail more often and generally with deeper discounts as well. It feels like cheating picking up physical copies of Bloodborne and Until Dawn for 17 bucks at Best Buy.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Yep but it should get better on the DD side as we get more sales on consoles like this year .