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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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CosmicQueso
Member
Right. That would be ridiculous. Also said nothing about a cpu or gpu change.
Who cares what it's called? Okay so "slim"... It's the same concept. And lose the ps+, fine. It's ancillary.
i think it's the psx. it was a media device that played ps2 games (so, a ps2 with extra features):
Well I asked him and he said he's not talking about the PSX. Which was essentially a PS2 with a hard drive and some extra SW stuff anyway, nothing really significant.
Well, you quoting me and then referencing the n3ds suggested you thought that was a possibility. In any case, it looks like we're in agreement.
I see PSVR and PS 4K Blu-ray skus as very likely, and a boosted clock sku as fairly unlikely though.
CosmicQueso
Member
Fair enough, cool.
i was wondering if there was some confusion over the playstation x which was abbreviated as psx, and the original playstation, which also was referred to as the psx.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
I'm late to this conversation, but has it been confirmed that PSVR will usher in a PS4 hardware revision or something?
No, but it has been confirmed that it will come with a separate box to improve performance specifically for PSVR titles.
tensuke
Member
No, it comes with a box you plug into the PS4 that does some image processing and interpolation, no actual game/graphics processing. No new ps4 hw needed.
Right, this is more accurate than what I just said.
Do you actually not understand it or do you just want to mock me?
Because I can explain what I meant if it's the former.
Imru al-Qays
Banned
So your argument is that there'll be a PS4 slim at some point? Well no shit.
No, at least one person is insisting that there was a PS2+ that wasn't the PSX.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Thanks. I guess that explains why they're pushing 120fps. Still though, will this box be enough to make up for the PS4's hardware deficits?
CosmicQueso
Member
Imru’ al-Qays;188971586 said:
Right? I never claimed it was some revolutionary idea lol.
I guess the part about throwing into the new form factor the guts of the add on box needed for VR threw people off or something.
thekiddfran
Member
Bad month for Microsoft. Sony selling more consoles, Halo 5 not even in the top 5 and Tomb Raider not charting
gundamkyoukai
Member
The added power is what throw me off because adding some more flops not going to make a big difference to how things look VR.
anothertech
Member
LoL I remember when people argued HD tvs were a gimmick haha,
slavesnyder
Member
Can we first wait and see how it actually looks?
So far I only many impressions that were positive. Were they all liars or just blind?
Even these days you have people arguing that they can't notice the difference between 720p and 1080p.
Plague Doctor
Member
They were. 4k Ultra HD is where it's at.
Seriously, I just got Ultra and I will never go back to anything less. It looks better than Actual Reality TM.
Praise MAU
I'm confused.
As someone who tried it at PSX, the games fall into the category of looking good enough. Most really just need anti-aliasing. I would compare the graphical quality to last gen games.
I agree with cosmic. My prediction is
If you only have ps4 then you need ps vr and an additional box that gives the ps4 the additional power to run it which will be sold separately
If you have a ps4 plus or ps4 premium edition you only need ps vr as the additional power will be built in.
This helps in many ways because if there are people not interested in ps vr then they can buy the premium ps4 to run the current games at higher resolution and frame rate, 4K movie playback support etc... with price being 399 to 449. The budget version will be sold for 299 for people that do no care to play these games at max resolution or frame rate.
Times have changed. People are used to being "screwed" over every year or every other year aka iPhone 5 to iPhone 6, iPad Air to iPad Air 2. Games and apps will work on both but the new one will just run them better. I bought an iPad Air 2 on Black Friday knowing full well next year there will be a new and a little more powerful iPad Air 3.
Ever since the Sony guy hinted they are looking at a "premium" ps4 I feel it is going to happen next year. Their phone lineup is Xperia z5 budget, Xperia z5 and a z5 premium if I am not mistaken so I definitely see it happen with ps4 as well. I don't see why it would hurt them. Games will still play on your regular ps4 as well and they will continue to be sold.
If you only have ps4 then you need ps vr and an additional box that gives the ps4 the additional power to run it which will be sold separately
If you have a ps4 plus or ps4 premium edition you only need ps vr as the additional power will be built in.
This helps in many ways because if there are people not interested in ps vr then they can buy the premium ps4 to run the current games at higher resolution and frame rate, 4K movie playback support etc... with price being 399 to 449. The budget version will be sold for 299 for people that do no care to play these games at max resolution or frame rate.
Times have changed. People are used to being "screwed" over every year or every other year aka iPhone 5 to iPhone 6, iPad Air to iPad Air 2. Games and apps will work on both but the new one will just run them better. I bought an iPad Air 2 on Black Friday knowing full well next year there will be a new and a little more powerful iPad Air 3.
Ever since the Sony guy hinted they are looking at a "premium" ps4 I feel it is going to happen next year. Their phone lineup is Xperia z5 budget, Xperia z5 and a z5 premium if I am not mistaken so I definitely see it happen with ps4 as well. I don't see why it would hurt them. Games will still play on your regular ps4 as well and they will continue to be sold.
The VR breakout box is not for additional power. It's completely and utterly ignoring every single interview on this topic where this is made clear several times over.
If you people yearn for a more high-end VR experience, then you need to buy the more high-end priced equipment.
If you people yearn for a more high-end VR experience, then you need to buy the more high-end priced equipment.
MikeE21286
Member
Gawdamn lol
gundamkyoukai
Member
What ?
slavesnyder
Member
Okay. I guess you have to sacrifice something in quality to gain the VR stuff.
VR itself will be new and exciting enough to make this deal worthy for many.
Seriously? 935k with 30% digital is....? How many, hm....? Game sold north of 350k in November and 20% digital....how many, hm? Bundles didn't do shit and you will get 1.7 mil. Simple math. 1.7 isn't close to 2 mil.
They sold more than 1.25 million consoles in one month. I agree that it wasn't 100% positive but the only home system that had a bad November all around was the Wii U.
Again, you are talking about a different industry within the tech world. Game systems don't follow the same model that cell phones do and the majority of consumers are used to having their console be relevant for 5+ years.
Easier ports/connectivity in a new model is fine. The newer model running games notably better though would cause backlash especially with how easy it is for tech comparison articles and videos to spread (social media). People with the older model will feel screwed since they thought the system would follow the same model as previous consoles (with many people putting good money into the console via game purchases due to that).
small44
Member
A console with a model every year is called a PC
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
I guess MS should just cancel Oculus Rift support on XBO then, 'cuz if PS4 can't do it XBO definitely can't do it :/
As long as no games come out that absolutely require the VR processing unit as extra juice to run whatsoever, this could work. People already buy multiple SKUs with different HDD configs. Just make sure the games are scalable between those on reg. PS4s and those on the newer model with the bit of extra processing power and there's really no room for complaints.
It's not like the 32X if you do it that way.
Chobel
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October was 1.3m. November had 358K in retail, assuming 80:20 ratio, you get 90K from digital. Add to that say 50K-100K Halo 5 LE bundle and you get 1800K-1850K for Halo 5 LTD.
XBO don't have support for Oculus Rift, the hardware simple will stream games for the device.
The xbox implementation is nothing more than a screen in virtual reality. It's not integrated into games. Probably because it indeed cannot support it.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Huh, I thought it did. Does MS have any VR solution planned? Even the Illumiroom stuff from that leaked document years ago has been radio silent.
That doesn't make sense even picturing it. Seems like a bad middle-of-the-road compromise.
They have an AR solution, which is Hololens. But is not for the Xbox One.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Alright cool, gotcha. Forgot about that, they've been silent on it for a while.
t_wilson01
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DriftingSpirit
Member
I wonder if next year Jan-Oct will be flat/lower and Nov-Dec will be even higher.Next-gen war updated: PS4 almost doubled last November; Price drop success! Xbone flat. WiiU stable.
LTD:
PS4 10.8m [ten million barrier broken]
XBO 9.7m
WiiU 4.6m
PSX was a little more than that.
All you have to do is look at the back of one to know it was a little more than that
unless xb1 is $299.99 after the holidays, i can see it doing worse. ps4 is about to take off though. it's been doing well, but 2016 will be the year it sells like a market leader has traditionally done.
microsoft's probably going to be the second to jump into the 9th gen. i think they'll do it by 2018, but there's more to it than them simply starting the gen from scratch to 'win' next time. the company's direction's moving in a certain way that the xb1 is kinda/sorta excluded from. bringing it into the fold is probably what they want. the xb1 was basically the culmination of all their plans to make a set-top box, which was the reason for breaking into the industry. it didn't work for a large number of reasons, so instead of having that one piece of hardware that kind of exists outside of the standard windows thing, they might try to bring it in.
No VR solution. Only the hololens demos they've been showing but I'm going to bet thats all vaporware and it never shows up on xbox one at all.