People CLAMOR for Knack on PS+ they way Argentina CLAMORED for EVITA
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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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People CLAMOR for Knack on PS+ they way Argentina CLAMORED for EVITA
AmaterasuOni
Banned
Are you confirming Knack 2 for 2017? NEWS!
opticalmace
Member
*Knackle
ethomaz
Banned
You can't deny Knack has the best first party PS4 exclusive launch in Japan and it legs was bigger than Mario in UK (dat Knack Mario gif)
lol
They would have to keep it permanent or face a collapse.
DeadOnions
Member
Halo just isn't that popular anymore. Putting Halo Wars 2 for holiday 2016 was a mistake and I imagine it'll be pushed to early 2017.
At this point MS must realize that Halo needs a rest right?
At this point MS must realize that Halo needs a rest right?
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Pretty much assures Halo 6 will launch day and date on XB1/PC. I'm also expecting them to bring Halo 5 to Win10 in the first half of 2016...there's no way they are happy with these numbers despite their PR spins...its a shame too because their game is pretty great, I'd love PC people to get their hands on it
My bad, it passed 1 million, but still. With barely over 1 million, 4 million seem too much.
ethomaz
Banned
It is a bit slow for PC, no?
I guess it can work anyway.
You don't actually believe people wanted Knack with the PS4 release in Japan, do you? It was bundled with like every piece of hardware. At the most, you can say that Knack demand is unknown for that reason. There's nothing to indicate that it was popular, though. Just look at PS4 sales in general after launch.
We scared him away.
DeadOnions
Member
Pretty much. It also proves that exclusives don't sell consoles in any meaningful way anymore. Locking their first party games to console is clearly pointless.
fallen_dawn
Member
A good rule of thumb whenever people talk about Knack is to assume that they are being facetious (unless it's in relation to PS+, in that case, I can't tell who is being serious).
Now I want Knack to be on PS+ just so I can play it myself and see how good (LOL) it really is.
The Black Friday deals are the same from what I seen.
What if they bundle:
- Knack 2 to PS in Japan
- Halo 6 to XB in US
Who will win?
Who has better attach rate?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Yes because Fallout 4 is flopping...
There is still room for open world games. Just not the generic checklist bullshit. Right now it looks like Sucker Punch, Sony Bend and Guerilla Games are making open world games. Bloodborne could also be considered open world(an expertly designed one too).
I got a copy with my JP PS4 purchase and the Japanese voice over is HILARIOUS. Would recommend. I heard the English version and it just pales in comparison. Clearly this is the cause for the games success here
;-) for real though it's pretty funny
No. All Xbox One bundles will be at $50 off, in PS4 case is just Uncharted bundle. Plus some deals are better for Xbox One, Walmart for example will give $30 gift card.
But I believe PS4 will win november anyway.
I was thinking temp just to attempt galvanise sales right now while they probably are considering releasing a model thats cheaper to make - is that too early in the cycle to be considered?
Perhaps Im being a bit myopic in that while these holiday exclusives haven't really shifted XOs that maybe next years will. Something has to...
ps3ud0 8)
ethomaz
Banned
Hummmm... I don't know what to tell you
wapplew
Member
Fallout bundle should do good for Xbox?
"People are sick of open worlds" is like "superhero fatigue" over in movie GAF whenever a single film performs under expectations. Let's just ignore the fact that GTA V pretty much doubled the already absurd totals of past GTAs in the last 2 years. Or the fact that Fallout 4 just launched to numbers that are pretty close to what you'd expect from Call of Duty.
The Assassin's Creed franchise has pushed out 8 major games and 3-4 spinoffs in the past 7 years. Last year's game was also a mess. I think that has more to do with the decline than it being open world.
yukianderson
Member
Don't stop believing and keep living the dream...
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Yes they are $50 cheaper, but that just brings their best bundles down to $349. Battlefront bundle at $349 is still probably the most attractive bundle at that price point. Not sure how much casual consumers will care about the extra hard drive space.
it doesn't need a rest, Halo needs to get rid of 343i like yesterday, it has done so much harm to the IP it's not even funny.
basically No Bungie -> "Thanks but no thanks"
No, all the best selling exclusives last gen released in the holidays (Halo, GT5, and UC3), the other exclusives that released at a different time didn't sell anywhere near as well. Keep in mind that those games went against CoD and Battlefield in their prime.
This whole "competition from third parties" thing has absolutely no evidence, the evidence we have actually suggests otherwise.
Mister Megative
Banned
Eh. I gotta disagree respectfully on HW sales (still love ya buddy!). 304k is excellent for an October, and I just can't picture a scenario where an 81% YoY is disappointing, especially considering the Halo bundle was a $499 (!) console in the month before Black Friday. Far as PS4 sales go, again, 275k is completely within the norm for October. A 50 dollar price drop is fine, but why spend 350 on the Nathan Drake bundle when you can wait a month and get the Star Wars bundle? Even without THAT, I didn't expect it to have much impact a month before systems are available for 299 with additional games.
So yeah, I just.....I dunno, I don't see the issue. Like, at all.
Far as SW goes, none of us really know what the physical/digital split is, but it's growing larger. For context; I know ten people who bought Halo 5. Not one of them bought it on disc. It's a very small vertical slice, but that's the direction it's headed. Hell, Fallout 4 is my first physical purchase in over a year. I'm almost exclusively digital. I also think we're looking at damaged brand syndrome for Halo and AC.....MCC and Unity were terrible ambassadors for their respective series.
Sunset Samurai
Member
Bungie aren't what they used to be after Reach MP and playing Destiny. I'll take 343I over them any day
Nah, third time seemed to be the charm. A lot of people are saying it's the best MP of the series. Now they just need to work on a richer campaign and never fuck up again.
The large majority of sales from Uncharted 3 and GT5 came after the holidays. Both of those games were sitting at about 1M in the US as of December. Neither did anything close to ruling the holidays.
EDIT: Hell, Oct-Dec 2011 had Batman Arkham City, Battlefield 3, Modern Warfare 3, Skyrim, and Assassins Creed Revelations. Uncharted 3 wasn't even a top 5 game that holiday.
Mikey Jr.
Member
I wish these npd threads updated the first post better.
Give 2 sections.
Section 1
-official numbers. These are 100% fact.
Section 2
-what gaf was able to extrapolate, get from insiders, etc. State that these should be taken with a grain of salt. Put it behind spoiler tags.
Instead, someone has to scour 5000 replies to get numbers.
Give 2 sections.
Section 1
-official numbers. These are 100% fact.
Section 2
-what gaf was able to extrapolate, get from insiders, etc. State that these should be taken with a grain of salt. Put it behind spoiler tags.
Instead, someone has to scour 5000 replies to get numbers.
Halo 5 is better than Bungie's last attempt at a Halo. Hell, it is better than Bungie's last 3 Halo games (ODST, 3, Reach).
ethomaz
Banned
GT5?
It did 5.5m WW in December launch... so near 50% of it sales come in the first holiday month.
https://www.gtplanet.net/5-5-million-copies-of-gt5-sold-series-tops-60-million/
I don't even know how you are putting GT5 in this thread.
yukianderson
Member
A price parity and Sony was smart to do a 349 dollars battlefield bundle is like they saw this coming and was prepared. Sony has really been a master strategist against MS this whole generation. MS has been on offense and not doing anything else but counter Sony. The tables have truly turn from last gen. They even don't have Halo to help them turn the tide anymore. I don't know what MS is going to do in the first half of next year with all the exclusives games coming to ps4.
This is a US thread, no?
ethomaz
Banned
And? Your comment about GT5 continue to be out of subject... US account for only 20% of GT sales.
It did 500k in NPD December.
it will do ok, but its just a normal bundle, if was a limited edition than it would have done incredible. Rabid fallout fans would have purchased.
yukianderson
Member
That Halo number. I don't anyone expected anything like this. Will Halo chart next month?
The 81% increase was due to MS announcing their November price cut half way through October last year. Had it been more in line with other slow months during the year the increase would've been far less (<25%) which is pretty small given the boosts Halo has provided to HW sales.
I think most everyone thought the HW sakes would be significantly higher in October. Now that said these sales could very well have migrated to November but that doesn't change the fact that they are significantly lower than most were expecting. The GAF predictions are proof of that.
I do not think it is any sort of indication of "consoles are dead" or "OMG sales were front loaded" but merely an outlier to be proven as much by the sales this holiday.
Just my 2 cents anyway.
Here we go, you're using NPD numbers for games that get the vast majority of their sales outside NA, both UC3 and GT shipped more than 5 million in their first month, and we know those shipments sold through because they got additional shipments later.
mdtauk
Member
That's great, thanks for the help!
my idea is that the MCC MP debacle may have had consequences and we are seeing them now.
Halo 5 may be a great game but it's clear something is making (former) fans not buy it.
what is it? my bet is lack of confidence in the product.
series fatigue? come on, we have yearly Call of duty games speaking against that.
down 2 orth
Member
Oh shit, Halo's getting Knack-smacked like Mario was in the PAL threads.
This thread keeps on giving.
This thread keeps on giving.
1. I was referring to how Halo 5 (game) would do. I said in many posts that I didn't know how console sales would go. Xbox 360 did a little bit over 500K when Halo 3 released -- a month that wasn't November or December. I wasn't expecting the Xbox One to reach 500K in October due to that.
2. Halo 5 released before the Holiday season. Uncharted 4 is releasing early next year. Therefore the game should help sell a good number of PS4s in November and December. I have no doubt that the game will do well (that was never my original point). I just think that the game's release may not cause a huge boost in PS4 sales if the system does really well this Holiday season.
Definitely expected a "hypocrite!"-post like yours in reply to what I said; Was prepared to give a better explanation so thanks.
yeah nooooo i am pretty sure you were talking about how the game would get people to get xbox ones in a lot of posts. 360 owners, ps4 owners, halo fans etc... not only did the game disappoint(way less then what you would have expected since you did say it won't perform like previous entries)) but also the amount of hardware it moved. i guess you could say halo won them the month and pushed hardware but that would be a weak argument looking at actual numbers imo
does it look like you were talking about halo(the game) or halo (the system seller) in these posts?
You even compared the effect halo 5 would have to mgs4 !!!