Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 reviews and benchmarks

Sir Abacus said:
Raw power? Stock 980 Ti is 5.63 TFLOPS, 1080 is 9 TFLOPS. That's a tad more than 50% extra power. 8.4 TFLOPS for a 1500MHz 980 Ti, 11.7 for a 2100MHz 1080, that's 40% more power at max OC. Depending on how hard you push your cards you're looking at anywhere between 40-60% extra power.

Oh wait my bad it's 8.2 not 9. So yeah, 45%.
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In real world performance the 1080 is maybe 20% faster than the 980 Ti. An overclocked 980 Ti matches a stock 1080 pretty well while an overclocked 1080 would pull away from the OC 980 Ti roughly 20%.
 
kromeo said:
Why's that bad? My 980ti goes above that and my old 290x used to hit 94C
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Because nvidia cards start to throttle down above 81°C and you probably increased the Power and Temp limit (often linked together) in your overclocking tool or you installed a costum bios. And this will prevent your card from throttling down but going above 80°C is still not recommended and it will damage your card over time. And it runs now for a year and you never had problems you say? Great. Keep on doing it.

And don't even start bringing in old 290 cards... that was the reason /besides loud cooling solutions) to not buy one back in the days.
 
Sir Abacus said:
Raw power? Stock 980 Ti is 5.63 TFLOPS, 1080 is 9 TFLOPS. That's a tad more than 50% extra power. 8.4 TFLOPS for a 1500MHz 980 Ti, 11.7 for a 2100MHz 1080, that's 40% more power at max OC. Depending on how hard you push your cards you're looking at anywhere between 40-60% extra power.

Oh wait my bad it's 8.2 not 9. So yeah, 45%.
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Isn't the Fury X like 8.5 TFlops? When you said "power" I thought you were referring to real-world performance.
 
laxu said:
In real world performance the 1080 is maybe 20% faster than the 980 Ti. An overclocked 980 Ti matches a stock 1080 pretty well while an overclocked 1080 would pull away from the OC 980 Ti roughly 20%.
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Yep, here's a good comparison of all cards overclocked.

GTX 1080 2050Mhz
GTX 980Ti 1455Mhz

Fallout 4
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GTA V
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The Division
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The Witcher 3
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http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nvidia_geforcegtx_1080_overclocking/
 
ISee said:
Because nvidia cards start to throttle down above 81°C and you probably increased the Power and Temp limit (often linked together) in your overclocking tool or you installed a costum bios. And this will prevent your card from throttling down but going above 80°C is still not recommended and it will damage your card over time. And it runs now for a year and you never had problems you say? Great. Keep on doing it.

And don't even start bringing in old 290 cards... that was the reason /besides loud cooling solutions) to not buy one back in the days.
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I've never changed any settings, its an msi 6G so maybe that's just how it's set up? It hits about 84 under load
 
ISee said:
Because nvidia cards start to throttle down above 81°C and you probably increased the Power and Temp limit (often linked together) in your overclocking tool or you installed a costum bios. And this will prevent your card from throttling down but going above 80°C is still not recommended and it will damage your card over time. And it runs now for a year and you never had problems you say? Great. Keep on doing it.

And don't even start bringing in old 290 cards... that was the reason /besides loud cooling solutions) to not buy one back in the days.
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I really hate Nvidias ultra conservative throttling that was implemented with the 6xx series. A card should not start to choke back once it hits ~70c, I believe that an initial small throttle should kick in at 85c and 91c should start a more serious throttle. I used a GTX 570 overclocked to 975Mhz for months playing Battlefield 3 and regularly hit 91-93c for extended periods of time with no problems at all. That is on the high end and not reecommended, but cards should be built to be safe to use at 90c and below, imo.
 
kromeo said:
I've never changed any settings, its an msi 6G so maybe that's just how it's set up? It hits about 84 under load
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Never looked at the Ti model, but what I remember from 970/980 reviews the msi card shouldn't hit temperatures that high at all. Something is wrong here and your card is definitely down clocking (you don't get the full performance), did you install anything that could've changed your cooling/fan profile (MSI afterburner or another GPU tool)?

ZOONAMI said:
Change your fan profile dude, shit is throttling your boost clocks if it's getting that hot.
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Or do that :)

Neo_Geo said:
I really hate Nvidias ultra conservative throttling that was implemented with the 6xx series. A card should not start to choke back once it hits ~70c, I believe that an initial small throttle should kick in at 85c and 91c should start a more serious throttle. I used a GTX 570 overclocked to 975Mhz for months playing Battlefield 3 and regularly hit 91-93c for extended periods of time with no problems at all. That is on the high end and not reecommended, but cards should be built to be safe to use at 90c and below, imo.
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I had a 670 from zotac once (before going for maxwell) and I remember it always went at around 81/82°C during 'heavy' gaming seasons. It only lastet me about 1.5 years (or so) in the end. Maybe it was just bad luck but since then I'm only buying custom cards with 'good' cooling solutions (agian). Right now I'm on the Gigabyte GTX 980 G1, can't complain so far.
 
kromeo said:
I've never changed any settings, its an msi 6G so maybe that's just how it's set up? It hits about 84 under load
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I have the same card. MSI Gaming 6g. It's overclocked to 1400Mhz and it tops at 71-72º with games like Witcher 3 or Heaven benchmark. Your temp seems really high, what clock speed do you have?
 
mario_O said:
Yep, here's a good comparison of all cards overclocked.

GTX 1080 2050Mhz
GTX 980Ti 1455Mhz

Fallout 4
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[B]GTA V[/B]
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[B]The Division[/B
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[B]The Witcher 3[/B]
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[url]http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nvidia_geforcegtx_1080_overclocking/[/url][/QUOTE]

Nice, this is the most meaningful comparison yet.

Overclocked vs overclocked, as NOONE is going to buy a reference clock 980ti and the 1080 wouldn't be nearly as exciting if it didn't have the same performance potential from ocing as the 980ti (that's the main thing that puts the 980ti miles above the fury x, once you buy a non reference 980ti or oc it it just shits all over the fury x)





On the topic of the throttling:

I just remembered that the 1080 is only a 180W gpu with only 1 8 pin pcie connector there is only so much power you can feed it (225W for 8pin pcie)
How the HELL did nvidia manage to make a cooler that can't keep a max 225W gpu under 85C?
Is the cooler on this thing genuinly worse than the 980ti's reference cooler then?

edit: I'm pretty sure I remember even the reference cooler 980tis consistently being able to hit and sustain 1350mhz boost clock , which would put its power consumption at well over 300W.
So somehow they are selling a reference cooler inferior to the old 980ti one, and then have the gall to present it as a premium cooler.
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SneakyStephan said:
Nice, this is the most meaningful comparison yet.

Overclocked vs overclocked, as NOONE is going to buy a reference clock 980ti and the 1080 wouldn't be nearly as exciting if it didn't have the same performance potential from ocing as the 980ti (that's the main thing that puts the 980ti miles above the fury x, once you buy a non reference 980ti or oc it it just shits all over the fury x)





On the topic of the throttling:

I just remembered that the 1080 is only a 180W gpu with only 1 8 pin pcie connector there is only so much power you can feed it (225W for 8pin pcie)

How the HELL did nvidia manage to make a cooler that can't keep a max 225W gpu under 85C?

Is the cooler in this thing genuinly worse than the 980ti's reference cooler then?
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The founders edition is a great mystery... nobody really understands the reasoning behind it.
 
ISee said:
Never looked at the Ti model, but what I remember from 970/980 reviews the msi card shouldn't hit temperatures that high at all. Something is wrong here and your card is definitely down clocking (you don't get the full performance), did you install anything that could've changed your cooling/fan profile (MSI afterburner or another GPU tool)?
.
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I installed afterburner but its just set to auto fan profile. I'm going to have to check later when I get home, you're making me think I'm imagining those temps :(
 
 
mike6467 said:
Well, product pages just went up at a number of sites including Best Buy and Amazon. Should be interesting to see how long pre-orders stay up once they go live.

Edited for links - B&H says 9AM:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-geforce-gtx-1080-founders-edition-8gb-gddr5x-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card/5324601.p?id=bb5324601&skuId=5324601&ref=199&loc=AKGBlS8SPlM&acampID=1&siteID=AKGBlS8SPlM-rXmOGLjdwR23MbMiJzU8RQ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01FWI8ACO/?ie=UTF8&condition=all&tag=nisa-20&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1253754-REG/evga_08g_p4_6180_kr_gefrc_gtx_1080_pcie.html
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Eeeew, pny. Hell to the no. I've bought 3 pny sd cards on separate occasions thinking I must have just been unlucky, and all of them stopped working roughly a month after buying them. Thankfully amazon has good customer service. Will not buy anything from PNY ever again.
 
UK prices are a joke really, like £50 added on for nothing at all. Non-FE going to be like £575 minimum.
 
Kareha said:
All this talk about the cards hitting 82C with the fan at full power, people need to realise that a lot of review sites will be using open air test beds. These don't offer the best cooling, so these temps should be lower inside a sealed environment with plenty of air being pulled in via the front case fans.
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I'm not sure that's how it works. Test bed benchmarks won't run hotter than an enclosed case every time for sure.
 
ZOONAMI said:
Eeeew, pny. Hell to the no. I've bought 3 pny sd cards on separate occasions thinking I must have just been unlucky, and all of them stopped working roughly a month after buying them. Thankfully amazon has good customer service. Will not buy anything from PNY ever again.
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So...these are all FE edition cards, being sold by different vendors. Is there an actual difference here or are EVGA/Asus/whoever just reselling the same box Nvidia has given them?
 
The fact that these new cards easily do 80-100+ FPS at 1080p, is their any value in those benchmarks anymore? I personally am more interested in 1440p and especially 4k.
 
SneakyStephan said:
Nice, this is the most meaningful comparison yet.

Overclocked vs overclocked, as NOONE is going to buy a reference clock 980ti and the 1080 wouldn't be nearly as exciting if it didn't have the same performance potential from ocing as the 980ti (that's the main thing that puts the 980ti miles above the fury x, once you buy a non reference 980ti or oc it it just shits all over the fury x)

On the topic of the throttling:

I just remembered that the 1080 is only a 180W gpu with only 1 8 pin pcie connector there is only so much power you can feed it (225W for 8pin pcie)
How the HELL did nvidia manage to make a cooler that can't keep a max 225W gpu under 85C?
Is the cooler on this thing genuinly worse than the 980ti's reference cooler then?

edit: I'm pretty sure I remember even the reference cooler 980tis consistently being able to hit and sustain 1350mhz boost clock , which would put its power consumption at well over 300W.
So somehow they are selling a reference cooler inferior to the old 980ti one, and then have the gall to present it as a premium cooler.
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Hey I have reference 980 ti - it was 70 euro cheaper than overclocked variants at that time :D I have it at +170/+250 - It keeps boost clocks in 1350-1400Mhz range and that's only because I'm hitting power target maximum constantly cooler could do more.

CynicalBastard said:
Me: Hmm wonder what that converts to....



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I'm so sorry :(

EDIT: Man, just sitting here thinking about the profit margins on that, NVIDIA must LOVE selling these internationally.
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And US price is 700$ no tax so with 20% UK VAT it'd be 840$.
 
opticalmace said:
Doesn't that include 20% VAT?

$900*0.8 = $720 USD, which is only $20 more than the $699 USD for the founders edition.
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Yeah I did that math just now, if it does include the 20% vat makes more sense, if not Mother of god

Quotient said:
The fact that these new cards easily do 80-100+ FPS at 1080p, is their any value in those benchmarks anymore? I personally am more interested in 1440p and especially 4k.
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Market saturation, I'm with you though I find a lot more value in 1440p and above.
 
mike6467 said:
So...these are all FE edition cards, being sold by different vendors. Is there an actual difference here or are EVGA/Asus/whoever just reselling the same box Nvidia has given them?
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This is a good question. Are all reference cooler cards actually made by Nvidia, and just sold to AIBs for reselling? Nvidia actually sells their own cards on their website and at Best Buy too.

I would go with EVGA or Nvidia directly for customer service. EVGA has better warranty options and step up program, should they provide a non-ref 1080 to step up to within 90 days. So yeah, I'd go EVGA hands down for a founders card if you're going to go the founders route, or just wait for non-ref cards and a price drop to say FUCK YOU NVIDIA FOR YOUR FAKE MSRP.
 
As someone with a 980ti I want to get a 1080, I can get almost what I paid for my 980ti back from it. Should I upgrade to what seems to be the bullshit founders edition, or wait for non reference cards?
 
I'm so excited for this to be available in Canada. I wonder what the price will be, has anyone heard? I'm preparing myself for the worst.
 
Coolade said:
http://techgage.com/article/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review-a-look-at-4k-ultra-wide-gaming/3/

Techgage is the only place that specifically did 4k and 3440x1440 for their benchmarks only. I wish more did as the 3440x1440p benchmarks are the most important to me as well.
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Meh, my 980 ti does doom 4k/60 at the high preset. 1080 is only doing 52. Even with an OC I don't know if it would catch up. Actually I'm pretty surprised by that 52 fps, they are running a beast of a test system. My Xeon 1231v3 at 3.8Ghz is quite the performer apparently.

Edit: I don't know about that Doom result. Other sites show near 60fps for a 1080 at max settings.
 
Dusktildawn48 said:
As someone with a 980ti I want to get a 1080, I can get almost what I paid for my 980ti back from it. Should I upgrade to what seems to be the bullshit founders edition, or wait for non reference cards?
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I'm considering selling my Titan X, buy a FE card and upgrade via an EVGA hybrid kit down the road.
 
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