I was in the same boat but decided I'll get the 1070 since I'll be gaming at 1440p. if anything I can lower some settings to maintain 60fps and save myself $200+ in the process.
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 reviews and benchmarks
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I was in the same boat but decided I'll get the 1070 since I'll be gaming at 1440p. if anything I can lower some settings to maintain 60fps and save myself $200+ in the process.
Comparing a non reference overclocked 980 TI to a reference 1080 though. General consensus from most review sites I have seen is that the 1080 ref vs 980ti ref is around 25-30% faster. Whether that would make someone upgrade is up to them.
Yeah, saw some benchmarks that put the 1070 roughly on par with a 980 Ti so it seems like a great value proposition. Do I have the discipline to wait however?
That's my target resolution also. Maybe I'll just do that since I plan on picking up a Gsync monitor and toss the extra savings that way.
digitalrelic
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I wouldn't call 1380mhz "highly clocked". That's the absolute bare minimum OC you'd ever get out of a 3rd party 980 Ti. 1500mhz is "highly clocked".
That was because 970 and 980Ti were positioned way out of Nvidia's perf/price curve to bury 290 and Fury X respectively.
This time around AMD is not even competing in the same segment. You can see Nvidia created clearer separation between 1070 and 1080 (based on core count, correct me if wrong!). Not to mention the rumor that 1080Ti might be a cut-down GP102.
icecold1983
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except they werent charging 700 or more for the 980
holygeesus
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It doesn't if you turn the fan up to 80% and increase the target power limit to 120% You just get ridiculous temperatures.
dgrdsv
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Clock drop is not "throttle", that's boost adjusting to load. When a card throttles it goes way lower than its base clock.
I didnt get to watch the whole video, but didnt that AdoredTV review say that the 1080 throttles at stock speeds?
EDIT: Watched the whole thing, seems like its just the boost clock
finalflame
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By default the card prioritizes lower fan speeds /power levels over boost. Manually setting the power/fan curves seems to solve the issue.
That's missing the point. I'm talking about the performance of the new small die vs. the old large die cards. It's never been a good upgrade at any price, never will be.
dgrdsv
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It's sticking to its overclocked speeds which is the base clock you're setting. The boost does mess up the overclocking quite a bit as it is changing the clocks based on load, temperature and voltage supply now as well so to get that running stable you have to make sure that all these are fine - especially the cooling and power supply obviously. So there's nothing strange that the reference card can't hold the higher limit of boost range as it lacks in both cooling and power.
It will be interesting to see how AIB cards will fare.
michaelius
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Those are factory speeds - you will get 10% or so on top of them in both cases with manual overclocking
What's up with the minimum frame rate on the SLI? I'm wondering if it's one of those situations where the benchmark records from the very beginning where there's a hitch as it starts up, causing a momentary low FPS, and it's not representative of the actual lowest framerate in the test.
Too bad so few games support SLI, otherwise I'd be all on this
finalflame
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Just got Amazon to give me a refund on my 980 Ti. 1080 here I come.
michaelius
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Framerate drops are caused usually by lack of gpu power or by lack of cpu power.
If that drop is caused by cpu bottleneck then SLI won't help at all.
Self_Destructive
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2 of those will probably be my next cards.
Tacklemacain
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that card doesnt look 100$ cheaper then the FE.
dgrdsv
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It's an OC card though so it'll probably be $630-650.
Even without OC'ing, it sounds like the FE can't maintain its boost clock, so you're still paying more for an inferior card at the end of the day.
Downsides is that your card will be thermally throttling, so a lot of those benchmarks you're seeing won't reflect your score.
That's pretty common. Especially since you can't actually purchase the 1080 yet. And even when you can the price of the Titan X is only going to drop slowly.
dgrdsv
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No, it won't. You should look up what "throttling" means when related to NV videocards. And the scores in benchmarks are from the same cards which shows the same clocking behavior so they will in fact reflect his score.
I don't think we're going to see that until the TI. Even then you'll probably only see 8+6 until they release their Highest end cards.
I'm biting at 8+8+6... Maybe. Those usually don't show up until months later. 8+6 might be enough. I hope these cards are efficient enough for 8+6 to only be as high as they need to go.
Scores of tests done in real world scenarios, ie. inside a case will reflect actual results. A lot of benchmarks floating around are done on test benches.
Wait.
I'll be waiting for EVGA's FTW at the very least (custom board with 2 power connectors is a must) before retiring my custom-cooled Titan X. If yours is a decent overclocker you might want to hold on to it for now.
That being said, if you're concerned with selling it for as much as possible, you should probably do it now.
DOT DASH DOT
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I'm a bit confused about all this comparing OC'd 980ti's vs stock 1080, it's just ridiculous, the 1080 can OC too you know! And from what I've seen its 20-30% better than a Titan X in the majority of benches......so what's the issue here? Isn't that a respectable increase for a card that's meant to be replacing the 980?
Because you cant actually get a stable OC. It will quickly throttle to base clocks. It cant even keep a stable boost.
DOT DASH DOT
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Got a link or links handy? I'm gonna buy one tomorrow, if this is not the case, not really heard about this in reviews.
billmcdougal
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I have been trying to keep up but theres a lot.
What's the problem with the current pin situation?
properly not going to happen as that would be overkill, maybe on an LN2 card.
8+6 is realistic
Jay explains it in a nice and understandable way.. you can make it hold a stable clock and oc, but it requires you to alter the fan speed to 80-100%(something that will make the card noisy)
wait until other cards are released with custom coolers, unless you really really need a blower cooler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXUo1S55ZUM
MikeE21286
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So Microcenter tomorrow then looks like the only physical store that will have stock? At least in the US....
Are people going to be lining up really? Like a normal person I have a job, so that's not an option for me lol. I wanna play with it until AIB cards are announced.
Are people going to be lining up really? Like a normal person I have a job, so that's not an option for me lol. I wanna play with it until AIB cards are announced.