jim2point0
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Are they throttling due to the power cap or temps? I haven't read too much on that, but at least the power cap can be removed (probably).
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 reviews and benchmarks
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icecold1983
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i was just thinking the nvidia effects. if you include 4xssaa at 4k id say we might get there in 10 years
Both. Computerbase or PCGH (forgot which one) had a nice chart.
Gamers Nexus definitely ran into power cap with their water-cooled card.
GermanGAF: EVGA Germany is "giving away" 5 secured pre-order spots for the Founders Edition on their forum.
http://de.evga.com/forums/100-KaufZ...v-für-Forums-Mitglieder-m2440254.aspx#2440254
http://de.evga.com/forums/100-KaufZ...v-für-Forums-Mitglieder-m2440254.aspx#2440254
Reference designs have been at 10.5 for a while. Going at least back to the 780 iirc.
lol fuck them, will go with another vendor this time, shit like this makes me sick. at least give them the cards for free or cheaper.
Backfoggen
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Lmfao, can't wait to fight for my spot to get a dang reference card.
Damn. They're just doing a small promotion for their fans.
To be fair, they recently launched the forum and I guess it's an attempt by the responsible guy to draw more people there. They also have another (actual) giveaway going on there. I don't really care, it's 5 cards, not 100.
Obviously I'd prefer your free/cheaper suggestion lol
Chiggs
Gold Member
Good grief. This is what it's come to?
Preorders up at Fry's. Secured an EVGA one and kind of regretting it, gonna cancel if we get any news about non-ref cards.
http://www.frys.com/search?search_type=regular&sqxts=1&cat=&query_string=GTX+1080
http://www.frys.com/search?search_type=regular&sqxts=1&cat=&query_string=GTX+1080
We will this week
FE is most likely the worst value card on the market
metareferential
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I don't get this rush towards FE cards.
Even from someone building a new rig. Just wait a couple months.
Even from someone building a new rig. Just wait a couple months.
The audience for this card don't have the patience to wait a couple of months and don't care about the value. It's the new shiny. There are a ton of people in this threat who will upgrade from a 980ti to a 1080fe, which is a puzzling decision from an economic standpoint but makes sense when you include the hype.
Surely if you can acknowledge that people will hit Ebay to pay hundreds of dollars in premium over MSRP, you can wrap your head around some people who don't fancy overclocking buying an FE card at retail.
It's always this way with new things, whether they're video cards, Amiibo, or some LE game that comes with an art book.
Not everyone values the same qualities in a video card, and not everyone values money in the same way.
It's always this way with new things, whether they're video cards, Amiibo, or some LE game that comes with an art book.
Not everyone values the same qualities in a video card, and not everyone values money in the same way.
I just really dislike pre-order culture, maybe phrased it a bit harsh. :lol
It just all comes together, to pre-order/reserve an overpriced/marked-up reference card, just sucks all the excitement out of me.
Sir Abacus
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Yay for 1080Ti leaks!
Going for 1080Ti if true.
Going for 1080Ti if true.
Yay for 1080Ti leaks!
Going for 1080Ti if true.
Wouldn't call that a leak, I believe I saw someone say it's from a thread where people guessed the specs on the chiphell forums or something.
Unknown Soldier
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Yay for 1080Ti leaks!
Going for 1080Ti if true.
Source was ChipHell. At least wccftech posts actual rumors. ChipHell literally makes stuff up. 100% fake.
Gen.Grievous
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the first few webshops over here have the 1080 up for preorder. Prices range between 760 and 1045 euros.
These are speculations not a leak.Yay for 1080Ti leaks!
Going for 1080Ti if true.
Apoleptica
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Speculation or not those numbers seem very reasonable and I wouldn't be surprised if the actual specs were very similar.
Demigod Mac
Member
There's a new "Optimal Power" setting under power management mode. Any idea what it is? (it's not a renamed Adaptive)
if this is accurate, how does the 1060 compare to the 970?
i just want something that will fit in my GPU slot :/
anexanhume
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Yeah, they're clearly speculations. They're showing cards that will most certainly have HMB2 memory but bandwidth numbers calculated from a 384-bit interface.
Hawk269
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Come the 27th, Ebay is going to be having these listed close to $2k. I saw some that are pre-order nearing $1500 the other day. It is going to be nuts.
I am doing a wait and see, but really looking forward to Gaf hands on impressions of the card and how it performs for normal users.
I am doing a wait and see, but really looking forward to Gaf hands on impressions of the card and how it performs for normal users.
Mister Wolf
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Im buying a 1080 come May 27th. We can do this the easy way or the hard way Nvidia....the choice is yours.
Caayn
Member
What? "we are giving you the chance to give us 790($885) for a stock unaltered normal product" what kind of price is that?
mercenar1e
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i question the sanity of the people that are willing to pay $700 for a reference card that cant hold an overclock.
Personally, I feel AMD is gonna drop mega bombs with Polaris but that's just my inner AMD fanboy elements that still linger deep inside my soul, i suppose, but regardless...I just feel Pascal is too much of Maxwell slapped on a smaller node and if AMD has any real IPC improvements...In my opinion will be bad for Nvidia this generation and bad ass for AMD. We'll see but my intuition is hardly ever wrong.
Apparently it's for saving power in idle. When the on-screen content doesn't change, the GPU just outputs the same frame again.
We've been there. It's the new shiny piece of hardware that people who have money to burn just buy regardless of capabilities. Some people might need the best GPU right now. Others just don't care about OC (but even then the FE sucks because it can't hold its advertised boost clock lol).
You better start saving for two Polaris cards then.. but who knows maybe they are cheap.
Unknown Soldier
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Were you not around when the 980 Ti launched? Exactly the same thing happened. Reference cards were all there was at launch, they sold out instantly and remained sold out until the customs started showing up.
2x Polaris 10 (Radeon R9 480X) might actually end up being cheaper than 1x GTX 1080.
Of course, everyone knows that multi-GPU is not good compared to a single GPU and you would do better to take the 1080.
mercenar1e
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the best GPU performance, 5-10 minutes at a time.
Nice overview about what we know about AIB partners and what they have planned for 1080 (and as such probably 1070): http://videocardz.com/60269/custom-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-cards-what-we-know
dgrdsv
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There is no gaming Pascal with HBM that we know of right now. GP102 is likely using GDDR5X and it is very likely to be faster than GP100 in gaming.
I don't understand this thirst for some memory tech. Fury has already proven that loads of bandwidth do not help when most games are optimized for console 256-bit GDDR5/DDR3 buses. This is just a waste of money for some over-hyped tech at this point, GDDR5X will do fine.
Deffo, although I'm worried about cooling.
Cooling is only really an issue if you overclock or if your in-case set up is inefficient/cluttered, right?
I won't be OC'ing my 1080.
JustCheezze
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I haven't OC'd in the "common way" on an Nvidia card since Fermi lol.
With Kepler and Maxwell, I went the other way way: remove the stupid "gpu boost" crap by bios modding. Put the clocks where my cards would OC to its max and then remove the stupid voltage limiters.
Result: no throttling because gpu boost thinks my card is "too hot", no irregular 13mhz step downs for no arbitrary reason just because the temp sensor reads it 1c too hot into the first throttling "zone".
I don't know why so many people are still so adamant in trying to beat the throttling with Afterburner/Precision/whatever OC app when they can't because the clocks are written into the vbios.
Fuck this gpu boost bullshit.
With Kepler and Maxwell, I went the other way way: remove the stupid "gpu boost" crap by bios modding. Put the clocks where my cards would OC to its max and then remove the stupid voltage limiters.
Result: no throttling because gpu boost thinks my card is "too hot", no irregular 13mhz step downs for no arbitrary reason just because the temp sensor reads it 1c too hot into the first throttling "zone".
I don't know why so many people are still so adamant in trying to beat the throttling with Afterburner/Precision/whatever OC app when they can't because the clocks are written into the vbios.
Fuck this gpu boost bullshit.
ThoseDeafMutes
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What the shitballs is this "Big Pascal not using HBM2" stuff? Since when is this a thing? I saw it in an article today with some listed specs but the article never bothered to mention that the main feature people were hyping about big pascal for the last year wasn't going to be on it anymore. It just listed 24gb GDDR5x like there was nothing out of place.
A lot of people were hoping for a shrink in high end card sizes. That's a huge reason why people wanted it. SFF is getting big.
you still need the size for cooling, its not like the fury is small if you include the radiator.. so i have no idea why people have this wish.
the only thing you gain is simplifying the board design
Tacklemacain
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If Vega is a alot more efficient then the Fury, you dont need that big of a cooler. Even the Nano runs fairly well with a very small cooler.
so does the GTX970 mini
Tacklemacain
Member
And? Just wanted to give an example.
my point was just that its all about cooling the GPU, the RAM has basically no effect(only in design complexity).. and most of the time it doesn't even have a heat sink.
Sure HBM will gain you extra memory bandwidth, i would actually like to see a graph that would take a 1080 and overclock the memory and only the memory in something like 50 mhz increments from stock, that way we should be able to estimate how the card would have performed if it had HBM memory. But i am sure the curve would gradually flatten out, in the end trending towards no gain. sure with a new chip like Vega it could make a big difference, I am just happy we didn't get another generation of vanilla GDDR5.