Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 reviews and benchmarks

mario_O said:
The benchmarks I've seen with cards overclocked, where there's barely a difference between 980ti OC and 1080 stock, were not running the 980ti at 1500Mhz. It was 1400, something that many 980ti owners can easily achieve. And I'm sure at 1300 the difference will still be small.
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Which ones? Hard to keep track of all of the benchmark/reviews. Would be interested in seeing which you're talking about.
 
Zefah said:
Which ones? Hard to keep track of all of the benchmark/reviews. Would be interested in seeing which you're talking about.
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See the video I posted a couple of posts ago.

Compiles a bunch of benches. Also other interesting info, such as throttling to stock clocks after 20 minutes.
 
AJLma said:
An 200ish mhz overclock on a 980 Ti should boost to about 1400-1450. To my knowledge most are stable to around 1400 boost.

It's the Titan X at 1500 that's rare.
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A 1500 air boosting ti is still pretty rare. A titan x requires an aftermarket cooler to be bolted on or water cooled to have a stable boost that high, so a lot more rare.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Yeah, same boat here lol. I think used 970s will probably be going for $125-150 once the 10x series rolls out.
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That would basically signify a collapse of the entire low-mid range GPU market. That's what a 750ti goes for, never mind the much more expensive 950 and 960, all at a fraction of the performance of a 970. AMD and Nvidia would literally be selling 0 new cards in those lower tiers under such a scenario. AMD's Polaris cards (with exceptional price:perf) are probably the only things that could tank it that low

K' Dash said:
notworthit%
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Going to be funny if the third party cards/coolers can sustain 2100+ clocks full time, after the FE reviews have skewed public opinion so negative/lukewarm. That would mean aside from looking like a scummy as hell price gauging scam, the FE would also be directly responsible for misrepresenting performance (unfavorably) convincing a lot of would-be Nvidia customers to keep what they have or wait for alternatives.
 
ZOONAMI said:
I'd go a bit lower than 1450 as a standard boost oc. And if you aren't pushing power and voltage sliders your boost clock likely isn't all that stable for sustained sessions at load. The temp and power throttling isn't new. The reference 980 ti had the same problem. Doesn't mean performance is terrible or anything. Just that a bios modded aftermarket 980 ti is going to sustain higher boost clocks much better. The 980 ti g1 overclock . net bios modding forum is a pretty good source of info. Also for g1 970 and 980 models. The zoson thread on the evgas is also a good one.

The problem is just put under a microscope because Nvidia is attempting to charge $699 for a ~300mm reference card while simultaneously stating it has superior cooling and build quality which is a load of garbage, and then the added confusion of saying the msrp is $599, without detailing what a $599 card will look like (an even worse blower cooler and build quality from aibs, as seen in the galax clown example).

People in this thread are repeatedly making the assumption that all the aftermarket cards will be $599, which is silly. If an aftermarket card has a better pcb and cooling, why would it be cheaper? Shady nvidia marketing is clearly working.

Once everyone has sold their old card thinking they can get a new card at $379 or $599, and then realize they can't, they'll just grudgingly shell out $450+ or $699+. It's an extremely deceptive way to drive new card purchases and increase margins.
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It'll be interesting to see what the market actually does with the 900 and 700 series. Been holding off for a while, and can't quite decide if I would want to make the jump to 1080 or take a smaller jump to a 980. But am quite wary of the 970's.
 
Reallink said:
Going to be funny if the third party cards/coolers can sustain 2100+ clocks full time, after the FE reviews have skewed public opinion so negative/lukewarm. That would mean aside from looking like a scummy as hell price gauging scam, the FE would also be directly responsible for misrepresenting performance (unfavorably) convincing a lot of would-be Nvidia customers to keep what they have or wait for alternatives.
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I think you're just interpreting a forum posting narrative in this way. The FE cards will sell out, and people will be having a difficult time sourcing the cards. It's just a cool forum thing to be outraged by the FE card.

Sure, the $100 sucks, but aside from that it's the same as every other NV card. And the $100 thing is just NV soaking up some of the extra money that retailers and scalpers typically enjoyed.

Edit: Not trying to single YOU out when saying "you"... It's quite obviously a broad opinion.
 
Weevilone said:
Sure, the $100 sucks, but aside from that it's the same as every other NV card. And the $100 thing is just NV soaking up some of the extra money that retailers and scalpers typically enjoyed.
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I think it's more the combination of the price hike and the poorly designed cooling solution that has people annoyed. For a card to be hobbled at stock speeds is ridiculous.
 
AJLma said:
An 200ish mhz overclock on a 980 Ti should boost to about 1400-1450. To my knowledge most are stable to around 1400 boost.

It's the Titan X at 1500 that's rare.
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Yeah, I think most end up around 1400 or so. To reach 1500 you usually have to set a custom fan profile and even voltmod the BIOS. 980 Ti does not routinely hit 1500 or even boost close to that.

There's also the issue of OCing the memory since you can't voltmod that. 8000 is an extremely rare memory OC.

In general the people comparing a 1500/8000 980 Ti to a stock 1080 are being completely disingenuous if not straight up having an axe to grind agenda. No one compares an OC card to a stock one to prove a point one way or the other.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
In general the people comparing a 1500/8000 980 Ti to a stock 1080 are being completely disingenuous if not straight up having an axe to grind agenda. No one compares an OC card to a stock one to prove a point one way or the other.
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I guess it depends on how well the 1080 ends up overclocking though. If people can buy a ti and overclock it to close to 1080 speeds, it is an attractive proposition still. Hell, even if the 1080 is 10-20fps faster, it still is worth looking at considering it's price:performance ratio.

As a 980ti owner myself, I would have upgraded if the price had been more reasonable, but knowing I can up the OC more and get close, means I can just save the money for the next iteration of my card. I see no problem with people pointing this out. It's not bitterness that there is a faster card out there (there is!) more putting the relative performance gains into perspective.
 
Reallink said:
Going to be funny if the third party cards/coolers can sustain 2100+ clocks full time, after the FE reviews have skewed public opinion so negative/lukewarm. That would mean aside from looking like a scummy as hell price gauging scam, the FE would also be directly responsible for misrepresenting performance (unfavorably) convincing a lot of would-be Nvidia customers to keep what they have or wait for alternatives.
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I fully expect third party coolers to be significantly better than the FE. Why wouldn't they be? They'll probably tweak their existing mature coolers and be ready to go fairly quickly. I'm more curious how high they'll go. Is 2100 the highest we'll see?
 
holygeesus said:
I think it's more the combination of the price hike and the poorly designed cooling solution that has people annoyed. For a card to be hobbled at stock speeds is ridiculous.
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That was the point. The "poorly designed cooling solution" hasn't changed. It's the $100 that's changed.
 
Caayn said:
Do you now understand why we were only shown a USD price.

I hope to god that NV falls flat on its face with these prices outside the US. But I expect that these cards will still sell like hotcakes outside the US.
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The craze in germany is also surprisingly strong. People behave like getting a 1080 now is a must do, the previous maxwell/kepler generation is entirely obsolete and waiting for better prices and/or 3d party designs is not even an option.
There isn't even a 'crysis like' overhyped and very graphic intense 'must buy' game out yet and most people don't even seem to own VR hardware. And I understand that there are many early adopters and enthusiasts here (and that's okay), but the amount of hype for the FE is still strange.
 
Sigh. Looks like I'll be upgrading from my 980 Ti to SLi watercooled 1080s.

Now to play the waiting game for the cards to be up on nVidia.com.
 
ISee said:
The craze in germany is also surprisingly strong. People behave like getting a 1080 now is a must do, the previous maxwell/kepler generation is entirely obsolete and waiting for better prices and/or 3d party designs is not even an option.
There isn't even a 'crysis like' overhyped and very graphic intense 'must buy' game out yet and most people don't even seem to own VR hardware. And I understand that there are many early adopters and enthusiasts here (and that's okay), but the amount of hype for the FE is still strange.
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I'm 100% getting a VR set in the next 8 months but I need a better card first - currently on a GTX 960.

There's no way I'm buying a new card and a VR set in the one go. I'd like a Vive, so buying both at once would be like £1,100 in total ($2,000, maybe more).

So I'm going to split the purchase – get a 1080 close to release, enjoy nice-looking games for a few months, then go in on a Vive when I've had a few more paychecks (hopefully once they've met their order backlog, too).

I imagine a lot of people eyeing up VR will be doing the same. It's not the case that I need a 1080 right now. But in order to be VR-ready in the next year I'm going to stagger the two steps - get a new GPU now, then get the VR set later. The added bonus is that I'll enjoy GTX 1080 performance on all the games which currently run fine-not-great on my 960.

Sothis Krieg said:
Matrox Mystique !

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Fucking brilliant
 
With the ridiculous price of the 1080 in Australia ($1199-1299) I'm estimating they will charge $800 for the 1070. I payed $520 for the gigabyte G1 970 on release, these mark ups are insane. The 1080ti will likely be $1500... Things are getting absurd.
 
SomTervo said:
I'm 100% getting a VR set in the next 8 months but I need a better card first - currently on a GTX 960.

There's no way I'm buying a new card and a VR set in the one go. I'd like a Vive, so buying both at once would be like £1,100 in total ($2,000, maybe more).

So I'm going to split the purchase – get a 1080 close to release, enjoy nice-looking games for a few months, then go in on a Vive when I've had a few more paychecks (hopefully once they've met their order backlog, too).

I imagine a lot of people eyeing up VR will be doing the same. It's not the case that I need a 1080 right now. But in order to be VR-ready in the next year I'm going to stagger the two steps - get a new GPU now, then get the VR set later. The added bonus is that I'll enjoy GTX 1080 performance on all the games which currently run fine-not-great on my 960.



Fucking brilliant
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Look I'm not complaining about people buying or wanting a 1080. If somebody wants a 1080 for whatever reason that's fine. I'm complaining about people buying the founders editions instead of waiting for better 3d party designs. I really dislike nvidia FE strategy, they make it sound like it's a special offer when in truth it's a card with many problems like power limitations and heat dissipation. But all you hear from people when mentioning this is:"oh I don't care about overcloking anyway.".
Then you should at least worry about your card throttling down and not being able to maintain its boost clock speed . Especially because nvidia seems to charge a premium for their 'special design'.

Tl;dr:
Get the 1080, but get a 3d party design with way better cooling and the ability to draw more power.
 
Sutton Dagger said:
With the ridiculous price of the 1080 in Australia ($1199-1299) I'm estimating they will charge $800 for the 1070. I payed $520 for the gigabyte G1 970 on release, these mark ups are insane. The 1080ti will likely be $1500... Things are getting absurd.
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FUCK that.

Hopefully thats just Founders Edition bullshit and the final partner cards aren't anywhere near as insane. If both decide to screw us over, I think I'll just stay red team and wait for Vega.

After the issues I had with Doom, I was totally ready to swap over to this new series of Nvidia cards, but there's no way I'm supporting a company that does that kind of price hike just because they think we'll sit here and take it.
 
mrklaw said:
I fully expect third party coolers to be significantly better than the FE. Why wouldn't they be? They'll probably tweak their existing mature coolers and be ready to go fairly quickly. I'm more curious how high they'll go. Is 2100 the highest we'll see?
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I think that depends more on the power supply than anything, cooling shouldn't be an issue given the TDPs
 
ISee said:
The craze in germany is also surprisingly strong. People behave like getting a 1080 now is a must do, the previous maxwell/kepler generation is entirely obsolete and waiting for better prices and/or 3d party designs is not even an option.
There isn't even a 'crysis like' overhyped and very graphic intense 'must buy' game out yet and most people don't even seem to own VR hardware. And I understand that there are many early adopters and enthusiasts here (and that's okay), but the amount of hype for the FE is still strange.
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Really? The majority of posts and reactions I've seen was definitely reserved along the lines of "nice card, but way too expensive for what it offers".
Barely seen any "i need this now!!!" comments.

789€ is just a fucking insane price for a at best mediocre x80 card and I think a lot of potential buyers realize this.

SomTervo said:
I get you. How long does it usually take for 3rd party designs to come out?

I won't be overclocking my 1080 at all, so is cooling/power consumption still relevant?
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Yes, the reference design can't even hold its advertised boost clocks due to thermal issues.
 
ISee said:
Look I'm not complaining about people buying or wanting a 1080. If somebody wants a 1080 for whatever reason that's fine. I'm complaining about people buying the founders editions instead of waiting for better 3d party designs. I really dislike nvidia FE strategy, they make it sound like it's a special offer when in truth it's a card with many problems like power limitations and heat dissipation. But all you hear from people when mentioning this is:"oh I don't care about overcloking anyway.".
Then you should at least worry about your card throttling down and not being able to maintain its boost clock speed . Especially because nvidia seems to charge a premium for their 'special design'.

Tl;dr:
Get the 1080, but get a 3d party design with way better cooling and the ability to draw more power.
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I get you. How long does it usually take for 3rd party designs to come out?

I won't be overclocking my 1080 at all, so is cooling/power consumption still relevant?
 
Vuze said:
Really? The majority of posts and reactions I've seen was definitely reserved along the lines of "nice card, but way too expensive for what it offers".
Barely seen any "i need this now!!!" comments.

789€ is just a fucking insane price for a at best mediocre x80 card and I think a lot of potential buyers realize this.
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Really, was talking to my 'pc dealer' the other day (bought a new hard drive) and the interest is very high according to him. But maybe he is wrong. Whatever.
 
dr_rus said:
Not even close, 1380 at max, 1367 sustained. 1241 is G1's rated boost clock. 1500 is a rather high overclock which only some 980Tis are able to reach without some advanced modding. Saying that it's "standard" is just misleading, comparing that to reference 1080 on stock clocks is straight up pointless.

1080 FE should be able to hit 2GHz OC. The drops noticed are related to the new boost 3.0 thingie and the obvious deficiencies the reference has in power supply and cooling. I'm expecting some rather spectacular OC numbers from Strix/Xtreme/etc cards, probably bigger ones than which was possible with 980Ti (which isn't really surprising considering the difference in TDP). The only thing which may be limiting them is the upcoming GP102 cards which might get a lot less interesting if 1080OC will hit 2+ GHz in a factory.
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I thought you meant a 1241 base clock. Mine is 1260 and boosts to 1500
 
any guesstimates as to 1070 pricing in europe/UK? Just about to sell my MSI 970 for about £200 so wondering what the delta would be to get a 1070.
 
Vuze said:
Yes, the reference design can't even hold its advertised boost clocks due to thermal issues.
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Perhaps that's why it's called boost. Intel CPUs don't maintain their turbo on all cores if you take a completely hands off approach.

Its also been shown that the FE does this and more with some pretty simple adjustments to fan speed and such. No modding or anything necessary. Of course this might depend on the particular game, since data is still somewhat limited.
 
Weevilone said:
Perhaps that's why it's called boost. Intel CPUs don't maintain their turbo on all cores if you take a completely hands off approach.

Its also been shown that the FE does this and more with some pretty simple adjustments to fan speed and such. No modding or anything necessary. Of course this might depend on the particular game, since data is still somewhat limited.
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I would assume that people who aren't interested in overclocking do not want to tamper with fan curves either but rather want what has been advertised without any adjustments. Purely judging from the limited data we have, the FE dials back to 1600ish after merely 20mins of use. They advertised ~1770.

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My local store teased sth about "more info on the 27th" regarding 1080. Probably nothing but I'll be keeping an eye out for non-FE pre-orders anyway :o
 
RedSonja said:
Disappointed at the 1080. Can't do 4K VR. The end.
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Why would you expect the 1080 to do that? The 980Ti cant even average 50FPS @ 4K in most new games. The 1080Ti wont be able to do that and unless Nvidia's multi-projection becomes a thing I wouldnt be surprised if the 1180Ti wont be able to do it either.
 
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