lol what :-D
guessing this is a joke
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 reviews and benchmarks
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lol what :-D
holygeesus
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What determines your boost speed out of interest? My base clock is ~1250 and my memory 1952MHz but my boost is only 1338???
I always assume max settings, because if not then a lot of videocards can do 4K if you lower your video settings enough.
Thanks for the detailed and insightful answer.
Dang.
Best go with 1070 for safety?
If 3rd party varieties are out within 2-3 months I'll happily go with one of those.
So we are betting on the graphics quality of games to stagnate because of consoles, so that one day we may enjoy 2x 4k 90hz at max settings.
icecold1983
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each card has its own curve depending on the quality of the chip. 2 seperate 980tis can boost to a different level with an identical base clock for instance. from everything ive seen higher asic quality gpus boost higher off of a given base clock since they require less voltage
holygeesus
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The same question is asked and answered on every page. If you wanted more details then it's pretty easy to find them.
Thanks.
In my experience they absolutely do (to varying levels), even on their crappy stock cooler.
Only the unlocked chips, think there are even timer limits on the normal chips.. And if we are talking reference design, then try using an Intel made motherboard.
SneakyStephan
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As we've been saying, it's literally nothing but an early adopter's tax and yes it's shameless and a new low.
It works though as people are now adopting the narrative that a decent pcb and aftermarket cooler have to cost 100 dollers over a trash tier pcb and cooler (like this reference shit, ironically)
That video just shows how bad it really is, they're pinching pennies on a SEVEN HUNDRED dollar product, just ridiculous.
This is the kind of thing you'd expect on some MX or OEM version of a low end part , not on an (according to some superfans on this forum) 'top shelf' part.
draughn101
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I got offered a couple week old EVGA 980ti FTW edition for $450. Do it??? I play at 1440p, and 4k. Will OC it further. Figure with SLI benchmarks doing well at 4k, I can add another down the line when prices drop further.....
Depends on if you can wait for the non FE 1070 to come out(And assuming partner cards actually meet the non FE msrp)
This, I picked up an EVGA 980ti SC+ BP last weekend for a bit less then that. I have no regrets, but I did it because most of my quality gaming time over the next year (at least) will be in the next 3 months. I've also been sitting on a g-sync monitor since August. I have it paired with a 3770k and have no regrets, it's a magical experience.
With that said, I doubt finding a 980ti for $450 is going to be that much of a problem going forward, so waiting to see what the market looks like whenever the 3rd party 1070/1080s get out there makes a whole lot of sense.
holygeesus
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Actually checking the boost using Afterburner I am hitting near 1500 so I suspect GPU-Z just states your minimum boost speed or something.
exmachina64
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In its default state, my 4690K maintains a turbo clock much longer than the 1080.
This is the epitome of unrealistic expectations.
icecold1983
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gpu z doesnt match what you will actually get in game. inspector however has a pretty accurate est max boost readout that you will maintain as long as you dont throttle due to power or temps
I think post Ivy Bridge, it is very much up to the motherboard manufacturers to allow it. I typically don't use budget boards so, that is the most likely explanation.
it is a good thing Nvidia did a paper launch and did not release the card when it was announced
It just becomes worse and worse the closer people look and tear it down
draughn101
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Might as well get the word out. If you can help a few people on here make the correct buying decision, then that's a good thing.
finalflame
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As someone who is interested in the 1080, I'm glad these discussions are being had in the thread. I like to be as informed as possible about my purchase and the technical specs/abilities of the card, beyond nVidia's marketing bullshit.
Why would anyone wanna stifle productive technical discussion?
draughn101
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Yea I'd much rather discuss the technical aspect, then whine about the marketing, etc.
finalflame
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If that was a jab at me, then I'm not complaining about their marketing, but rather making a point that NO company would be forthcoming about the shortcomings of a product before release. The onus is on the reviewers, experts, and buyers to scrutinize the card and figure out what it can and cannot do.
All you're gonna get from nVidia are pretty nondescript graphs and "THIS IS THE BEST GTX CARD YET", which while true, leaves a lot in the dark for those of us hoping to upgrade from cards like the 980 Ti.
draughn101
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I was in complete agreement with you. You may be paranoid, but your take is on point.
well its not really productive, it wont change the reference/founders card.
1) it's $100 to expensive (and much more in europe), its all about supply and demand. Already here people should stay away from it.
2) it can´t sustain overclock on its default fan/voltage curve (but can if you change it)
3) it has a sub par power delivery, everyone should know just by looking at that lonely 8pin power connector.
4) it is almost already certain that it has the worst and noisiest cooler of all 1080 cards that will ever be produced (maybe with the exception of the galax... that thing looks horrible, but on their own page they have changed the pictures to the reference cooler)
we basically already knew all of this 10 days ago
my best advice is to not buy the reference/founders card, and wait for the actual cards to come out...
just like i wouldn't buy a motherboard made by Intel
Arent there only reference Titan X's available?
dgrdsv
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There's nothing in the dark. Reference to reference is a good representation of what you'll see between OC vs OC as well. If you want an OC 1080 or is running an OC 980Ti the reference 1080 is obviously not for you. I'd argue that 1080 in general is a bad upgrade for 980Ti owners but hey it's not my money (I myself might jump to 1080 if only out of curiosity).
holygeesus
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The 980ti is a good overclocker though. There are no guarantees that either the 1070 or 1080 will be until we see the power situations of after market cards.
People put aftermarket air cooling or more commonly water cool them.
So isnt that comparison extremely misleading then? Might as well put a custom air/water cooling solution on the FE and then compare them if they're gonna do that.
Caayn
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EVGA sells a Titan X with a hybrid cooler.
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Deleted member 22576
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We're preorders from nvidia supposed to go up today?
draughn101
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980tis dropped a bit further today on Amazon. Some of them have a $30 rebate as well.
Stumpokapow
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I'm thinking about a 1070. I'm currently on a 770 and I don't plan on moving beyond 1080p in the next 5 years so I suspect a 1070 should perform extremely well at least that long.
Chiggs
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Bargain-minded gamers should take note. Similar deals for the 390x too.
I'm definitely projecting here, but I'll offer up my opinion on the matter: can you possibly hold out until HBM2 cards are released? The folks that are dropping serious cash on these cards might be better served waiting 6-8 months, because HBM2 cards are going to be monstrous in terms of performance and allow for more compact designs.
That said, if you want something to last you for 5 years...why not the 1080?
Crimsonsky
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Even on Amazon they aren't in the 400-500 range and that's all you should pay for hem as the 1070 is a faster card. Anything over 379 in fact is probably not a good decision. Low 400's is probably fine, but it's a tough call.
1. HMB2 is going to be huge (Which is why I'm waiting myself) but we have no idea what the prices might be, and for such a new feature that's highly sought out, it might be really expensive. Demand could highly exceed supply.
2. For 5 years, I can definitely see the 1070 lasting. Especially if you're ok with dialing down a few settings in a couple of years and not having AA maxed.
Unknown Soldier
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Apparently Newegg put them up already? I wasn't going to buy a reference card anyways.
A 1070 should kill 1080p for a long time. That said, even at 1080p there's supersampling and downsampling to consider.
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Deleted member 22576
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I don't know how I got it in my head that nvidia was selling them through their own website. Blech I need one of these asap.
In other words, it's exactly what it should be based on the currency conversion?
finalflame
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+1. I always find it hilarious when Canadians majorly overreact, as if they don't know what the exchange rate is.
Y'all need to simmer down.
I swear someone here said they'd be selling them on nvidia.com today.... What a disaster of a "launch"
opticalmace
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I thought that was the 27th.
+1. I always find it hilarious when Canadians majorly overreact, as if they don't know what the exchange rate is.
Y'all need to simmer down.
This makes me sad
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Deleted member 22576
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I know I've read in more than one place nvidia.com would be selling them, and I signed up for the email blast from nvidia to alert me when they'd be available.
And then somebody here a couple days ago said they'd be going up on nvidia.com for preorder on the 25th (today.)
I really dont want to get caught with my pants down and have them go on sale when I'm at work and can't place my order.
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 XTREME GAMING pictured
http://videocardz.com/60298/exclusive-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-xtreme-gaming-pictured
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC ACX 3.0 pictured?
http://videocardz.com/60297/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-sc-acx-3-0-pictured
http://videocardz.com/60298/exclusive-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-xtreme-gaming-pictured
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC ACX 3.0 pictured?
http://videocardz.com/60297/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-sc-acx-3-0-pictured
Shifty Capone1
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I wonder what pricepoint those are going to come in at. I hope it isn't $750, but I have a feeling they will be at $749. Why wouldn't they sell it higher than the $699 nVidia wants? Those things are selling and they are 'inferior.'
Unknown Soldier
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Man, Videocardz has all the leaks now. wccftech getting played