Why is that? Is MSIAB just not up to support yet?
Regular Precision was just a RivaTuner reskin which is what MSIAB is.
Nvidia Kepler - Geforce GTX680 Thread - Now with reviews
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Regular Precision was just a RivaTuner reskin which is what MSIAB is.
Hawk269
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I am getting confused with all your posts Boob...so you actually HAVE a 680 now? I thought in one of your posts that you "will be" getting one soon..but I did not think you already have one. If so, post your impressions. You are well know to tweak the shit out of games at stuff, so very interested in what you can do with a 680.
Hawk269
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I use both, I just like precision x a bit better right now. When I had my original 580's I used Afterburner exclusive, then when the 580 Classy's came out, AB did not support that card for voltages.
Precision X just seems to be really nice and it is a big departure from what eVGA usually puts out. It is just preference because I generally am a AB user since I started back up with PC gaming.
People who clearly don't have much in-depth knowledge of technology themselves not shutting up about a slightly mistaken prediction by one poster can be annoying. Particularly if said prediction (a 294mm² mid-range chip being priced like a 294mm² mid-range chip) was entirely reasonable.
Hawk269
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The problem is my standards keep getting higher and higher, and I want more.
My problem as well. I was talking with a co-worker and telling him about my thoughts on going for a 3960x CPU to tag along with my 2x680's. He is not a computer guy, but at the end of the conversation and me explaining stuff to him, he basically said "so you are going to invest another 2k on an new computer because you have not been able to max out Witcher 2 in Ubermode at rock solid 60fps????". I actually sat there stunned at the comment, thought about and realized...shit that is what it is. I own a game that I cannot max out with in-game settings.
Granted, I know there are mods out there for other games that can also push these said games farther and farther, for me I tend to stick with whatever the game comes with or officially supported mods like the HD texture add-on for Crysis 2 or Skyrim. I think the fact that there is a little fuction option in Witcher 2 called Ubersampling and when I turn it on I can't get 60fps is bugging the shit out of me.
I know I sound like a fucking lunatic for saying that, but it is surreal that his comment about spending almost 2k is centerered around the ability to achieve 60fps on one f'n option in one f'n game!!!!
Of course I am trying to convince myself that "oh no, it is not just Witcher 2, there wil be other games in the future that will require more and more"...my co-workers response "you fucking upgrade GPU's almost as much you change your boxers...so if something else comes along, you will end up upgrading anyways"...we both laughed at that one!
Please, anyone with half a brain and who follows the GPU industry occasionally could have made that prediction (just like Charlie D). The problem here is that spouting things as fact when clearly they are guesses, should be made clear.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Nah, I was quoting dr_bser. He literally said 'i have the card so why not listen to me' without posting any proof, just 'theory' that it'd require more CPU overhead.
I will have a 680 very soon. I'll let you know what I think. And when I get the chance to, I'll see if I can SLI them and compare them vs the 2.56 GB GTX 570's.
Yeah, true. All dr_rus does is take shit from the rumor mill, extrapolate it, then posts it as if he has insider knowledge and it's 'fact.' That's why his GK104 schtick was so laughable: that exact same "$299-399 GK104 rumor" was going around by then.
Yup, he hasnt posted a thing/info to date prior to it being in the public domain.
Herpes Reasons
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whoa.
did i ever mention you're my favorite poster and always enjoy your posts?
Only if its EVGA (AFAIK they are the only ones with a step program) and only if its within 90 days of the purchase, I'm going to say no you can't
scorpscarx
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Slightly ot post but was wondering if anyone knows of a good cooler for my stock, launch, xfx 6970?
I haven't checked guru3d or anywhere yet but I'm running an OC'd Phenom II x6 and I think even at 3.5GHz I would be bottle-necked quite heavily if I was to get a 680.
I think I'd rather just make the 6970 cooler and quieter for a year and see how that works out for me.
I haven't checked guru3d or anywhere yet but I'm running an OC'd Phenom II x6 and I think even at 3.5GHz I would be bottle-necked quite heavily if I was to get a 680.
I think I'd rather just make the 6970 cooler and quieter for a year and see how that works out for me.
Ya it's EVGA, and thanks I didn't though so either lol.
The Palit 680 is looking pretty good. I think I'm going to pick it up if it comes out soon.
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CJ-Technology has EVGA cards in stock at $545, with free shipping. Store looks crappy, but people on the EVGA forums have been saying it's legit.
EVGA store had them for about 3 minutes yesterday.
Hydro Coppers will be available sometime this week, maybe today or tomorrow, if you're waiting for those.
Alternatively, you can use nowinstock.net to track the card, but I don't think it tracks the egg.
EVGA store had them for about 3 minutes yesterday.
Hydro Coppers will be available sometime this week, maybe today or tomorrow, if you're waiting for those.
Alternatively, you can use nowinstock.net to track the card, but I don't think it tracks the egg.
Yes, because two cards are better by nature.
Sweet. Well, the guru3d site didn't actually list any sources of it's own which was why I didn't bother but here.
Every single day I check about 7 different sites for a possibility of pre-ordering any 4GB card with a proper cooler, which is most likely going to be Galaxy / KFA2 first. Then I stumble across sudden influxes of Stock, saw 10 Zotac go up and 4 hours later they were gone, was so tempted to pick up two right then and there but I'd just hate myself. Tons of demand for this bad boy, even in my small country.
TPU is TechPowerUp -> http://www.techpowerup.com/163238/Second-Wave-of-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-600-Products-Due-For-May.html
Which leads here -> http://www.3dcenter.org/news/die-nvidia-planungen-fuer-die-naechste-zeit
which leads to a leaked roadmap from a forum post
Ah, awesome. Didn't read hard enough to spot the TechPowerUp reference. Thanks. Hopefully going to be building a new computer in May, so that will time out nicely.
I have always been curious about the way these dual cards work. I was under the impression that a 590 was slower than 2 580's in SLI. Is that true?
I have always been wary about SLI because I keep hearing about all this microstuttering stuff and it has sort of scared me away from any kind of dual GPU setup. But wouldn't a 690/7990 have the same issues? I assume they just have some kind of internal SLI/Xfire thing going on within the card itself.
Dual core single cards are usually clocked lower and tend to be a bit slower than an actual SLI setup with the same cards, yes. Crossfire setups really suffer from Microstutter as AMD really haven't cracked the nut yet. Nvidia has come a long way, they even employ technology on the cards themselves to iron out SLI kinks.
If it wasn't clear I meant two GPU's are better.
Stuffing two on a card usually is less performance and you have to deal with a lot more heat.
SapientWolf
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In my experience, microstutter is only a problem if you can't push more frames than your monitor's refresh rate. I can tell the difference between 59fps and 60fps but I can't tell the difference between 60fps on one card and 60fps with Crossfire.
I can, AMD has done a piss poor job with Crossfire and too many games suffer from not only microstuttering but about a hundred other crossfire related problems. Some games seem to do better than others, sure but overall microstuttering can be a massive issue on crossfire setups in my experience.
Can help I think.
I didn't use xFire a great deal with my two cards over a lot of titles, but I did run into in on the Hard Reset demo. I was pushing 90+FPS and I felt it pretty bad.
Disabled and super smooth, maybe it was just that game though.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
What complicates this is that some games hitch and show other perceptible performance issues on certain AMD setups whether they're Crossfired or not. Saints Row: The Third is nearly unplayable on my machine.
People will probably have better luck with SLI, especially at framerates over 60.
nextgeneration
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Not that anyone plays this game, but Alien Shooter 2 Reloaded has similar problems on my previous 6970's. What's strange, though, is that when I enabled crossfire, frame rates were smooth, but graphic corruption would appear in certain spots. Once I disabled crossfire, gameplay became a stuttery mess. Once I upgraded to a gtx 680, all those issues went away, and frame rates are as smooth as butter and no graphic corruption appears now.
Krappadizzle
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Ordered a EVGA GTX 680 superclock+ off of newegg a few hours ago. I was shocked to see them in stock as EVERYTIME I've checked they are OOS but got lucky. Can someone tell me what the backplate on the superclock is handy for? Is it just for looks or does it help?
Hawk269
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It is mainly for looks, but some claim it does help a wee bit with temps, we are talking 1-2c. For me, I have used backplates on almost all my eVGA cards and it makes them look nicer..they are easier to handle being that you are not touching he back of the PCB and personally, I have through testing seen a small decrease in heat.
Your card may come with the high flow bracket as well, if it does that usually shaves 2-3c off of heat.
Krappadizzle
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Thanks Hawk! I was curious to know about keeping a dedicated physX card. I think I may have room in my case. I have 2 460's I'm SLI and was thinking of keeping 1 as a dedicated physX "processor" does anyone think that would make a difference for games that are physX intensive? Or would the fact that 680 is a much beefier card negate the card altogether?
Edit: I guess I should also ask would my 750w psu be enough too? I don't think it should be a problem but was wondering.
Edit: I guess I should also ask would my 750w psu be enough too? I don't think it should be a problem but was wondering.
specialguy
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680's still not in stock on newegg, 13 days after launch, where is the outrage over a paper launch? Nvidia sure seems to get treated differently than AMD...
This is getting ridiculous. I dont recall 7970 availability being anywhere near this bad.
Oh wait there is the Galaxy one right now get it while it's hot ladies>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162095
This is getting ridiculous. I dont recall 7970 availability being anywhere near this bad.
Oh wait there is the Galaxy one right now get it while it's hot ladies>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162095
Because we all knew that pushing out their mid-range kepler card months ahead of schedule as the GTX 680 as a response to the 7970 wouldn't leave much time to create a decent stockpile of cards?
Krappadizzle
Member
I bought an eVGA 680 from newegg today. Just gotta be lucky. They were sold out within minutes.
Hawk269
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I was on Newegg about 10-15 min's ago and they had the Galaxy 680 in stock...Perhaps they are selling alot better than anyone anticipated? Perhaps demand is much higher than the AMD GPU's were? Or even more demand if people sold their AMD GPU's and got 680's?
Lastly, if all else fails you can blame Sk3th...he has 4 of them!
chixdiggit
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Bought. Thanks. I always get screwed over by New Egg shipping though. I predict my card will arrive mid April in no less than 3 pieces.
This makes zero sense.
Because this isn't a paper launch as many people have these cards and you can get them. Whereas the 7970 was a paper launch and was still hard to get when it was made available to the public.
Your definition of paper launch is quite interesting, many = 300 people in UK.
The availability of the 680 is worse, easily worse than 7970 in the first two weeks of its availability.
I'm going to guess that you are going to reason with "high demand" next.
joeygreco1985
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Oh man. Newegg.ca has the EVGA GTX 680 in stock. I added one to my cart but just couldn't pull the trigger right now. Maybe in a few months I'll have some spare cash 
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Pretty much this.
Can we get back to discussing the pros and cons of the line of video cards.
zyxwvu4321
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So I may have snagged one of these today. How much would my CPU hold it back? I have an i7 920 running at 3.36 GHz.
Sure. It's faster, more efficient, has better driver compatibility and more software features than its nearest competitor, while being cheaper. I don't know why it isn't widely available!
Not in any significant manner, as long as you want to play with good IQ.