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NVIDIA to release GeForce Titan
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That's actually not a bad idea.
Single card is preferable to SLI. 2x SLI is preferable to 4x. Lots of reasons the Titan is more desirable than the 690. Power consumption might be one of them, but I don't believe there are any numbers available yet.
Excactly. Here are some prices on the very same store in DKK for 690s. They look pretty much identical to me.
Now that I think of it, wouldn't European based stores most likely start opening up for orders / listing the cards earlier - Considering those times are basically towards closing hours? Can't remember how the other cards were handled.
Well shit.Now this is a professional slide;
If titan is like two pandas on the performance scale, this is definitely the best value in gaming.
Terbinator
Member
Most stores here (UK) will usually actively advertise the cards as being instock around 1-2PM GMT.
Yeah, this happened last year - stayed up late - no sale. Woke up early - sale. Prepare to F5. What are we F5'ing for? Is this really just called "Titan" - no 780 or any other designation??
EDIT: nevermind, read up on it - 780 later this year.MesserWolf
Member
what a waste of money ..... plain and simple
Back on board since the 2.5 Panda leak. Exciting times, folks!
Opinions, how do they work?
Opinions, how do they work?
Dreams-Visions
Member
Everything is a waste of money. What makes a titan a waste of money but any other gpu not? The best price/performance gpu is also a waste of money if looked at through a particular lens.
MesserWolf
Member
the thing is that people will be unable, in real life and outside "benchmark/fps competitions", to notice the difference with a card that cost half of that.
Honestly I cannot think of one single scenario where it is a good idea to invest that kind of money for this card.....
You apparently know sod all about computers and your eMachine suits you well.
MesserWolf
Member
Cards that cost half of that will provide ~70-75% of the performance. This could be the difference between 30 and 22 FPS. I'd wager most people would notice that.
I guess you haven't heard of multi-display setups, or maybe downsampling? Plenty of people in the PC screenshot thread who downsamples from 3200x1800 and other similar resolutions (I can "only" go to 2720x1530 with my 6950) and at that resolution you need all the power you can get.
Understandable if you're stuck in 1080p ghetto.
Yes, my mom decided to get one because 'they were cheap and suited her needs' - 2 weeks later the PSU popped in a plume of smoke and sparkles. Told her not to bother with the RMA and I'd build her a machine from spare parts I had lying around.
Warned her against that rubbish brand, eMachines are really the lowest of the low ...
MesserWolf
Member
Durante, I could agree if that would be the case, the thing is that I doubt there is game, now or in the near future, that a 680 gtx struggle to bring to 30 fps, or even up to 60 fps at a reasonable resolution of let's say 1920*1200 or even 2560 x 1440 if you wish. I believe that with the current and gen of games that extra computational power will be most likely wasted, you will not be able to appreciate it or the real-life gain will be really marginal, far from making this a worthwhile investment.
If you go from 100 fps to 170fps (or from 60 to 100).... nothing change for you really.
GHG
Member
I'm just being cynical
. If this thing provides a significant performance leap over what I have now then I will want it but not be able to afford it 
.To people saying there is no use for this card...:
Stay in the world that you are living in. Don't open your horizons, it starts expensive then its a slippery slope from there!
So everyone is running 1920x1200 at 30FPS? You are aware that some people downsample, have higher native resolutions, expect a minimum of 60FPS and actually want to add a nice dash of anti-aliasing. My 680 SLI is struggling to keep up in some games at 2560x1600 with a nice bit of AA and everything cranked up.
You don't buy a god damn $1000 GPU to power a 1080p monitor in games running 2xMSAA and you are willing to settle for 30FPS.
The target audience for this card probably plays at 2560x1600, and laughs at the idea of doing so without "proper" AA. If you try to do that in a modern game with a decent PC port (ie. with added features) no current single-GPU card is equal to the task.
Personally, the only reason I'm not getting a Titan (or even a 680) is that I can't justify the expense. But that's different from saying it's useless, and will be different for people with other priorities or more disposable income.
MesserWolf
Member
I guess that with a multi monitor setup you could see the difference... but come on it is such a niche of people, moreover you could argue that a multimonitor setup just for gaming is already a waste of money itself.... but lets not go there...
Ah just to be clear.... everybody is entitle to spend money as they please, obviously!. I wasted a lot of money in stupid purchases, I just do not pretend it was a good investment or intelligent.
Finally downsampling. Interesting stuff, no question, but when it reach certain levels, crazy high resolutions, it becomes a bit ridiculous again.... you waste a huge quantity of computational power for a somewhat marginal (above certain thresholds) visual gain. You reach the point where you are actually actively trying to find a way to make the game not run smoothly on insanely powerful hardware.
and with this I think I exposed completely my point of view. I don't want to insist further.
You say it's niche. What do you call a ( rumored ) 1000 dollar card that is only being made in extremely few numbers - A mainstream offering? Thing will be sold out within a day. You can hit the roof with a single monitor, you don't need multiple monitors to max out a GPU or even an SLI setup.
As for downsample, it's a perfectly valid form of increasing the IQ. Not every game has perfect AA options and downsampling also provides ultra-crisp IQ that few AA methods can offer. A downsampled game can be way beyond a 'marginal difference', anyone who downsamples often knows that.
This product is very much a welcome addition, people who know how to use it will be able to max it no problem.
And I say again, I'm able to work my 2 x 680s extremely hard on my single 30" monitor - Some games I can't even max out or add that much AA before they punish me. I could use the extra power no problem.
Terbinator
Member
But that small market would still need a powerful GPU for that setup, wouldn't they?
The Titan GPU is not for the mainstream anyway, that too is for a very niche market.
Dreams-Visions
Member
So perhaps gaming in general is an unintelligent, poor investment. Do you feel dumb every time you pick up that next $60 title knowing you could wait 3 months and by it for 1/3 or 1/2 off? Even then, it's still a waste?
Most hobbies can be considered a waste. They're not life essentials. The bottom line is how much enjoyment you can extract from the experience. As such, I'll find ways to enjoy the $300,000 car, the $1,000 headphones, and this $1,000 card when I order it on Monday. And hopefully the depreciating assets you buy bring you some sense of enjoyment or pleasure too. If they do, they weren't a waste or unintelligent (unless you couldn't afford them). Or, no less intelligent than anything anyone ever buys purely for its entertainment value to them.
Horse Armour
Member
Also, next year when people are upgrading their GTX 680s to GTX 780s you'll still be able to look down upon them from the top of the heap. This thing isn't being beat until Maxwell comes out and that's coming late 2014 at the earliest.
MesserWolf
Member
I did not want to imply that Titan is for mainstrem.... it is obviously marketed to power users, a niche indeed.
What I meant is that multi screen setup for gaming are a niche in the niche ..... which is why I did not consider them in my original statement of the scenarios.
I would say they are really an irrelevant number of people (especially because I believe that such setup gives you more problems than satisfactions) , but I admit that I do not have any data to sustain such "hunch".
What I meant is that multi screen setup for gaming are a niche in the niche ..... which is why I did not consider them in my original statement of the scenarios.
I would say they are really an irrelevant number of people (especially because I believe that such setup gives you more problems than satisfactions) , but I admit that I do not have any data to sustain such "hunch".
It's been like that for what feels like ages now.
edit : I'm sorry let me rephrase that, it's been like that since 2007.
Image quality is a carrot on a stick for high end PC gaming. You can never quite get there . Even with a 1080P display, my 680 could benefit from more horsepower for increased AA and downsampling. Downsampling shouldn't be underestimated. Quite a few games look and run better DSed from 1800P>1080P than at native res with in-game AA maxed out. Inject your own for additional cleanliness and you're on a slippery slope to an SLI Titan rig.
. Even with a 1080P display, my 680 could benefit from more horsepower for increased AA and downsampling. Downsampling shouldn't be underestimated. Quite a few games look and run better DSed from 1800P>1080P than at native res with in-game AA maxed out. Inject your own for additional cleanliness and you're on a slippery slope to an SLI Titan rig.Hopefully when the next gen consoles launch they'll bust out from these imaginary walls they're forced behind.
Edit: And my lowly 660 I'm only just buying this week am cry.