Lactose_Intolerant
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they need to find something that actually uses all the ram to show off the card.
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NVIDIA to release GeForce Titan
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Man, if this really is $1000, then I'm out, unquestionably. Just gonna get a 680 Classified.
Only a couple more days until I know my fate!
Only a couple more days until I know my fate!
Dreams-Visions
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Nah, quad-SLI is horrible. I had a 2nd 690 for about a week - sold it. Practically a paperweight. You want the most performance per GPU - Titan is it. Value is up to you.
shungokusatsu
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Wait a minute, this is priced the same as the GTX 690 yet the GTX 690 is still faster? Am I missing something here?
Dreams-Visions
Member
single gpu vs dual gpu.
I'm not sure how you're getting 60fps in Metro maxed on a 680 SLI setup - Guru3D benches say differently. Do you have DoF turned off?
If we compare these numbers with Nvidia's graph the Titan is almost matching a 680 SLI setup here
GHG
Member
Microstutter, frame latency, SLI profiles, Noise, Heat, Fried eggs, something something something...
shungokusatsu
Member
Right, I'm just not seeing why someone would opt for the single GPU aside from wanting to use HDMI.
Good points but I still think pricing this the same as the 690 is odd.
I'm not sure how you're getting 60fps in Metro maxed on a 680 SLI setup - Guru3D benches say differently. Do you have DoF turned off?
If we compare these numbers with Nvidia's graph the Titan is almost matching a 680 SLI setup here
He probably disabled the DoF and is using AAA instead of MSAA.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Many would say the advantages make up for the lost performance, as well as the potential for doing a Titan SLI setup down the road.
GHG
Member
I was actually being sarcastic!
I'm an SLI user and have none of those problems and can't see what all the fuss is about with this card when you take into account the price to be honest.
And then have all those 'problems' again having spent 2k... Quite ironic actually.
Since we are talking about the 690GTX you can throw noise and heat out the window. The card is very quiet and I've yet to see it hit 80c in anything but a benchmark. I've never actually tweaked the automatic fan profile either. With stock settings the card is only audible after hitting 75c or so. I have some pretty quiet case fans too.
Waiting for decent profiles does suck though. So does microstuttering that often can't be fixed unless you disable a GPU (I've only experience this in very few tittles and lucky for me I could still hold 60 FPS with one GPU).
Yeah, fair enough point. But my issue still is, for $945 my 680 SLI has better performance than a Single Titan. The price is my issue.
Dreams-Visions
Member
It's nice to have the option, however. This gives you options. Having an SLI setup that can barely outperform it gives you no (good) room for future growth.
you've already invested your money in a setup that you're apparently happen with. this isn't a product for you. It's for those of us who haven't upgraded to something that powerful already. we get to enjoy similar performance at half the power draw, with fewer disadvantages, and the option to expand later.
I don't see any reason why someone with a 680sli setup should even be here at this point. You're good to go, unless you're looking for a reason to sell the 2 cards you only recently bought...which is just silly.
I'm not sure how you're getting 60fps in Metro maxed on a 680 SLI setup - Guru3D benches say differently. Do you have DoF turned off?
If we compare these numbers with Nvidia's graph the Titan is almost matching a 680 SLI setup here
My apologies, guess I need to stop looking at these charts as - 100% universal numbers, and actually look at the settings being used on them. That's beyond obvious, I know.
So, are you guys saying a single Titan out performs a 680 SLI?
True enough. I'll just butt out of this thread now. Nothing more to really say. I was actually considering getting one at $899. But $1,000 is just too much, given what I've already invested.
680 SLI out performs a 690 and a single Titan doesn't beat a 690.
How the hell is it for 4k gaming when it struggles at 2560x1600 to maintain 60FPS in a newly released game? What a silly comment.
There's no hardware even close to being '4k gaming' capable at this point.
Dreams-Visions
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I bet it's gonna run TF2 @ 4k like a boss.
Buy a used 690. Peeps will be dumping them like mad.
zephervack
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Cant wait for more benchmarks, but what has been shown so far isnt really making me want to get the money together to buy it.
I was planning on starting to sell a lot of stuff that dont see so much use anymore to try to afford this thing, but im not going through all that effort just to have like 20-30% advantage over a 680.
I was planning on starting to sell a lot of stuff that dont see so much use anymore to try to afford this thing, but im not going through all that effort just to have like 20-30% advantage over a 680.
GHG
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This argument makes no sense for several reasons:
- These cards are meant to be limited in their supply. The option for you to SLI a year or 2 down the line is blocked.
- By the time you look to upgrade again there will again be a better single card solution on the market (7xxx or 8xxx series).
- Will you have ANOTHER $1000 down the line to splash on one of these? Will you be able to justify it?
I say, just get the best there is for the money you are looking to spend that delivers the performance you need. And if that means going SLI and you are prepared for the potential pitfalls then so be it.
I've never seen a PC community that is as anti SLI/CF as this one. I don't understand where it comes from because there are many of us sitting here quietly with SLI/CF setups that aren't causing any problems.
zephervack
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Its a pretty common issue, just google your favorite top end GPU and the word microstutter and you will find tons of evidence on various forums.
My experience is personal, with the 6950 series, it was unbearable, I kept thinking there was something wrong with my setup and wasted so much time to try to fix it (vsync, d3d overdrive, disabling HT on my i7, frame capping with DxTory, etc etc).
As soon as I moved to a single GPU (7970), my woes where gone even though I supposedly lost like 20fps in every game.
Okay, $1000 for this card is madness.
I'm a tinkerer and enthusiast never with an eye towards $
erformance. Part of the joy I get out of hardware is just playing with it, pushing it to its limits, benching, putting it under water, yada yada.
Asking $1000 for a high end card that would have been released any other generation at a reasonable price is a serious "Fuck you idiots, we know you'll pay for it" from NVIDIA. Not gonna do it.
I'm a tinkerer and enthusiast never with an eye towards $
erformance. Part of the joy I get out of hardware is just playing with it, pushing it to its limits, benching, putting it under water, yada yada.Asking $1000 for a high end card that would have been released any other generation at a reasonable price is a serious "Fuck you idiots, we know you'll pay for it" from NVIDIA. Not gonna do it.
unless it really does OC like a madman
It has been debunked that these are limited supply. They are exactly like 690, short first-run and then a constant production - Just a heads up
Yep saying it's a limited run will just pressure people into buying it.
NeOak
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There's your issue - AMD 6xxx was horrible in CF. I've had 580/680 in SLI and 7xxx in CF - leagues better.
GHG
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It has been debunked that these are limited supply. They are exactly like 690, short first-run and then a constant production - Just a heads up
Ok fine, every other point still stands. When I see statements like:
"I have to buy this over SLI because that way I can avoid SLI problems but then I can also SLI in the future as there is an upgrade path"
It makes my head hurt. I look at that and I'm like "U mad".
Google Nvidia 6xx Series and microstutter... Theres not much out there. Its Nvidia's secret sauce.
So 2GB 680 SLI has 2GB of total vram, Titan has 6. That's my main issue right now. Adding a second 680 will probably perform similarly or better than Titan, but Vram could be a bottleneck going into next gen in a year+, thoughts?
edit: so after the first run warms up, these will be more widely available? Brick and mortar stores like Microcenter/Fry's? They carry 690s.
edit: so after the first run warms up, these will be more widely available? Brick and mortar stores like Microcenter/Fry's? They carry 690s.
You could always go 4GB 680 SLI.
GHG
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Should have gone 4GB when you got your 680. The question you've got to ask yourself is why did you get a 2GB card if you feel that 2GB could bottleneck in a year or so?
How much would it cost you to swap your 2GB for a 4GB and then go SLI vs just getting a titan outright?
Yep, I went from 4870x2 to the 5970 to the 690 and it is leagues better. I've heard AMD have improved their drivers dramatically in recent months but at the time I felt multi-GPU was a headache more than anything. Now, if the Titan retails for £830+ I just don't see how it could be recommended over the 690 which is comparatively £750. The negatives of SLI just aren't worth the extra expense just for the purpose of having a single GPU. If you feel you really need that extra VRAM though then I can see the benefits.
Of course, if the actual non-Nvidia benchmarks show that the Titan is indeed a beast then that would change things but going by the earlier Nvidia graph that is how I would feel.
30 FPS (Titan) vs 37 FPS (680SLI). OC'ing may be able to make up for the difference, though.
Wish people could just experience the leaps for SLI for each generation, they are pretty significant because there's a lot of misconceptions being spread around based on previous generations.
Guru 3D is reporting a 30% increase with just the stock air cooler.
GHG
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30% increase in performance after an Overclock? That changes a lot. If Gigabyte come out with a super overclock version of this then...
Everybody should peer pressure him into it.
Don't say no now...
I got the 680 last week, so I could exchange but the retailer only has reference design Zotac 4GB cards. I'm new to PC gaming and only at 1080P for the time being so it wasn't a huge concern. I'll probably sell it to move to a Titan if I decide to upgrade between Titan and 7xx series, which isn't a definite yet.
I know, that's why it's frustrating!