AdventureRacing
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I think this is a bad sign for Nintendo but its hard to know what this announcement means without more information. It certainly seems like we're going to be waiting quite a while before we get any actual information.
NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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serenewarfare
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I've seen quite a few people speculating that the March date won't stick, but that would be completely unprecedented. I can't remember the last console that was delayed in every region for 6+ months after a release window was announced. I don't think it has ever happened actually.
Milly Osworth
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They are going to reveal their thing in 2016 they will release 2 months into 2017? ORLY!
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No because NX won't be out this holiday. We have nearly a year to wait
Frank Jaeger
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Give me a cheaper N3DS for summer and I'm fine!
Very curious and kinda scared with the "new concept"!
Very curious and kinda scared with the "new concept"!
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Just in time for Metroid Prime NX.
I want to believe
I think that's actually going to happen. Reggie is going to rip off his shirt in 2017 and show us his ultimate form.
In truth, you can tell they likely moved a lot of Wii U projects to the NX by this weird move they pulled. NX, whatever you are, you might be Nintendo's greatest gamble.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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Lol. Get out of here with this. The mainstream aren't going to be buying a new console in March. Parents arent going to buy a new console in March. The core gaming audience will be busy with VR. That leaves the Nintendo fans who will still buy day one, though I imagine those will be dwindling with how bad Nintendo is burning their fan base with wii u this year.
They need everyone to buy this console at a time when they have money to spend, that is not in March.
Kageshinzo
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Because everyone betting on 2017 saw the March release date coming, right?
At least those that do made an educated guess based on historical fact that Nintendo's consoles have never been released on a four-year gap. But nah, Team 2016 people are saying that Nintendo HAS to do it because of the Wii U flop.
Heck, if I'm an adventurous bettor, I would even posit that March 2017 would be handheld version, and console would be in Fall 2017. To be fair, my initial guess was 2016 for handheld.
KratosEnergyDrink
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E3 is not the platform anymore to reveal new hardware. A special Nintendo event will get probably more media attention.
NX is 2017 is not a bad thing. My only concern is the software drought for Wii U will go on for almost a year. But that will be forgotten anyway when the new system launches.
NX is 2017 is not a bad thing. My only concern is the software drought for Wii U will go on for almost a year. But that will be forgotten anyway when the new system launches.
Silent_Ocarina
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Hasn't he been right so far? That's the impression I always gone when lurking NeoGAF.
SinCityAssassin
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The key thing is that they are not using E3 as their venue to reveal this product, but probably their own event. Possibly even their OWN trade show Space World.
I don't know about you, but we're noticing them just fine. One way or another.
pharmboy044
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People will buy a new Nintendo console whenever it comes out but I'm very surprised that they will be missing Black Friday/Christmas rush of this year. Maybe they know they can't produce that many units this year and just pushed to next year to avoid shortages like the Wii?
who am I kidding
Im gonna say they will, especially a worldwide launch.
Not only that they need to inspire retailer confidence because at the moment, in terms of dedicated retail floorspace, Nintendo has bugger all and have done for years.
And 'digital is the future' doesn't answer this.
Not sure if sarcastic or not, but that's the worst part of it for me. They'll just ditch a console if it doesn't sell as well as they'd like. Not a good image for me.
Well there are consumers there on the showfloor, but that would mean they would reveal it two months later; I don't think that's going to happen. Would be a huge fuck you towards E3.
It's the, 'with a brand new concept' part that concerns me.
Just give us a great controller and some great games. We don't need new concepts of how to do gaming. We just need new great Nintendo games.
Motion control was ok, the second screen was ok ... neither really caught on outside their console. I hope they don't mess this up.
I glanced right over that 'brand new concept' bit. Gimmicky console confirmed I guess.
If the launch lineup is great and marketing is intact they will sell decently. No more armchair arguing. Jeez GAF is intolerable sometimes.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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Nikkei stated today that the NX will have its own event this year that details date, specs and price. There's little reason to doubt Nikkei as they've been accurate about Nintendo related stuff numerous times.
Psydonk
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When has the media ever cared about Nintendo Direct?
E3 is the largest industry media event in the world. Every mainstream media outlet from CNN to BBC is at it.
Missing E3 shows something has gone very wrong with the NX.
HeavyMetalLover91
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I've supported Nintendo for their stupid ass decisions for so many years because I knew 9/10 times there'd be some kind of sense to it. I mean there's some unforgivable ones like E3'08, '12 and '15, but equally I fully agreed with them going all digital when they made that decision back in '13. And I'm not just talking E3 either.
That Circle Pad Pro monstrosity was ridiculous but at least I can see why they released (and then came out with the waste of time that is the New 3DS.)
But I'm done with this shit now. So if I'm a Nintendo-only fan, they're asking me to watch E3 for a game that's not only 9 months away at that point, but also coming out on a brand new platform? I'm so angry right now I can't quite articulate all my problems with this but needless to say had I not invested so much digital content into the Wii U, I'd be packing it up and selling it. (And guess what Nintendo, it's called a proper account system with cloud saves, how you've managed to make a new account system which is still a waste of time s laughable).
And I'm not here to say Nintendo are doomed, because they're not, but they have lost a loyal customer. Stop treating you fans like shit, cus they're the ones that have carried you through this pathetic excuse of a system life cycle.
That Circle Pad Pro monstrosity was ridiculous but at least I can see why they released (and then came out with the waste of time that is the New 3DS.)
But I'm done with this shit now. So if I'm a Nintendo-only fan, they're asking me to watch E3 for a game that's not only 9 months away at that point, but also coming out on a brand new platform? I'm so angry right now I can't quite articulate all my problems with this but needless to say had I not invested so much digital content into the Wii U, I'd be packing it up and selling it. (And guess what Nintendo, it's called a proper account system with cloud saves, how you've managed to make a new account system which is still a waste of time s laughable).
And I'm not here to say Nintendo are doomed, because they're not, but they have lost a loyal customer. Stop treating you fans like shit, cus they're the ones that have carried you through this pathetic excuse of a system life cycle.
geordiemp
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I still believe it will be a strong hand held that you dock into a home station (SCD) to play on a TV. That technically is 2 bits of hardware and not a hybrid, but close.
2017 would allow 14 nm fabrication to be more mainstream for the power per watt and price they would need.
The handheld would be able to play all console, handheld and mobile games is my guess and thats the catch. It makes the most sense,
Nintendo have 60 million hand held players and are going big on mobile, that is N's main market it seems, and if they can cover those bases and keep the 10 million console players with an SCD add on for TV play. This would play to the strengths of the type of games N makes.
I also guess Zelda will have a mobile app where you can progress some things in the game...
See, that's a good reason. We saw with the WiiU that launching on a holiday means jack shit if there's no reason to buy the console. Line up a few good reasons to buy it, and have a better launch instead.
Well that's delusional. Holidays have always been Nintendo's strongest sales period by far. There's no dancing around the fact that having a successful launch in your strongest period is best possible thing to hope for.
Kageshinzo
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I'm guessing you were too young to remember this?
It was supposed to launch Fall '95.
Prisoner KSC2-303
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To be honest, I got past assuming Nintendo wouldn't do something completely unprecedented when they released a handheld console without a charger. Everything else seems sane in comparison.
the_milkybar_kid
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I remember getting my N64 in the spring. Good time! Anyway I don't mind if it's pushed back, there's plenty to be getting on with this year and if it's delayed to make it better, so be it. They don't want another Wii U situation on their hands.
I think it's quite telling in pushing Zelda back that the Wii U version will be the port of the NX, rather than the other way round. Makes sense to me.
I can imagine they'll have a good strong launch line up. My one wish is that it either launches with, or is backwards compatible to play Mario Maker. If it does, I'm all over it.
I think it's quite telling in pushing Zelda back that the Wii U version will be the port of the NX, rather than the other way round. Makes sense to me.
I can imagine they'll have a good strong launch line up. My one wish is that it either launches with, or is backwards compatible to play Mario Maker. If it does, I'm all over it.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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Sell decently to who? The same people that made the wii u a sales disaster?
You do realize that Sony and MS revealed their systems outside of E3 and invited the press to these events right?
It sounds like they fucked it up the first time. Hopefully it's working out, now that they've had enough time to essentially remake the game.
I think NX was originally planned to release at the end of 2016. Something didn't work as planned.
If NX does release in March 2017, I think it got delayed because Zelda isn't ready and they want to have a solid launch line-up with a big game as Zelda. Not uncommon for a Zelda game to keep getting delayed.
Furthermore I think NX not being at E3 is because they are so secretive and worry that the competition might take some of their ideas. Especially now that there is a strong possibility of a PS4k and maybe even a new version of Xbox One. They will wait as much as possible.
However, if NX gets another delay to the end of 2017, than I am thinking it's hardware related and not ready to be shown yet.
If NX does release in March 2017, I think it got delayed because Zelda isn't ready and they want to have a solid launch line-up with a big game as Zelda. Not uncommon for a Zelda game to keep getting delayed.
Furthermore I think NX not being at E3 is because they are so secretive and worry that the competition might take some of their ideas. Especially now that there is a strong possibility of a PS4k and maybe even a new version of Xbox One. They will wait as much as possible.
However, if NX gets another delay to the end of 2017, than I am thinking it's hardware related and not ready to be shown yet.
thecouncil
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Right. Holiday season is the only time of the year this would work. Forget birthdays and other non-December holidays. They're shit. Everyone spends their life savings in November / December. Now, how exactly am I gonna drop a couple hundred dollars in March when that's three months after December?
Also, good call with noting that everyone will be busy with VR. If Nintendo launched NX alongside those same VR devices, they wouldn't have a problem at all. That only makes sense.
BocoDragon
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I'm incredibly pessimistic about NX right now.
It's very clear that Nintendo is a declining platform holder, has been since the beginning (NES sales > SNES sales > N64 sales > Gamecube sales > Wii U sales).
They need a Wii-like anomaly/fad to play in the big leagues again... and you have to wonder if Wii was really a matter of their carefully laid plans or if it was it a lucky break.
Does this NX-like console have the gimmick or otherwise broad interest to hit in 2017? Good luck.
I'd advocate third party at this point, despite the fact that it flies in the face of their own internal dogma and the dogma of the gaming community. Them being a successful platform holder seems to be a matter of praying hard at the shrine... I see no inherent competitive advantage they have. A new gimmick won't reliably do it, and not even a steady trickle of top games is likely to do it.
It's very clear that Nintendo is a declining platform holder, has been since the beginning (NES sales > SNES sales > N64 sales > Gamecube sales > Wii U sales).
They need a Wii-like anomaly/fad to play in the big leagues again... and you have to wonder if Wii was really a matter of their carefully laid plans or if it was it a lucky break.
Does this NX-like console have the gimmick or otherwise broad interest to hit in 2017? Good luck.
I'd advocate third party at this point, despite the fact that it flies in the face of their own internal dogma and the dogma of the gaming community. Them being a successful platform holder seems to be a matter of praying hard at the shrine... I see no inherent competitive advantage they have. A new gimmick won't reliably do it, and not even a steady trickle of top games is likely to do it.
I think the issue is not having something at the e3 before launch. But with it not being out for xmas, I dont think it is a big deal. Seems like a lot of floor space for one game though.
Joelstinton14
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I guess it is plausible that they would prefer people to get hands on with it rather than just the press. They got a bit of a kicking from the press didn't they with the Wii U?
But that is just speculative talking really.
serenewarfare
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I'm guessing you were too young to remember this?
It was supposed to launch Fall '97.
Uhh.. the N64 launched in NA in September of 1996. It was pushed back from April of the same year, and it did slip my mind, but its launch is an exception and a very specific set of circumstances.
This is good news for anyone who wants to start collecting Amiibos!
Come March 2017 Ebay will be awash with extensive Amiibo collections being sold by
single men in their forties
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