NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)

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Wait, so the Wii U version is still 2016???

If thats the case, im not nearly as salty. I bought this god damn Wii U to play some Zelda. Ive waited long enough damnit!

Sorry, lemme clarify. That was the original plan, I think. Now it's being delayed to 2017. I think. Could be wrong though, hopefully I am.
 
Wait, so the Wii U version is still 2016???

If thats the case, im not nearly as salty. I bought this god damn Wii U to play some Zelda. Ive waited long enough damnit!

No. It is delayed until 2017 as well. They stated the Wii U version would launch along side the NX.
 
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Quick, now ask the attention seeking post what a Nintendo Direct is for contrast. ;)
 
If I'm Nintendo and I want to screw over my hardcore Zelda fans who were on the fence about WiiU I would deny the the port of the NX version of Zelda to move some more units only to announce it later. They can't be that cruel.
 

lmao

the thing about e3 is it's covered on the news, in newspapers, it's all over social media... not the case with a nintendo direct.

though if nintendo does a separate live press conference like sony and ms did with their new consoles in 2013 it should get mainstream press
 
LOL, it's the very definition of jumping to conclusions, implying that nothing changes based former gens and historical evidence, and thus implying that Nintendo, a globally operating company, won't change a damn thing from their worst home console ever, or using the launch date of a system we, and most importantly, you, don't know anything from, for a year long prediction about game support.

So you think people will be pumped to play a new version of Madden or NBA 2K in March? Seriously?

If the good support isn't there at launch then it's not going to be there years later -- especially when the competition is doing VERY well in this area of gaming. You aren't being realistic at all.

Next, you imply Nintendo doesn't have a solid (online) core gaming user base. Focusing on the (online) part. Dare to lay out Nintendo's plans and it's online-infrastructure for the new system? You can't, but it can't be good because of Wii U?

Or you know, it's not going to be on the same level as PlayStation and Xbox since those consoles have a LARGE userbase of people who play core games online and Nintendo doesn't? You really think that Nintnedo will get on the same level in the matter of 2-3 years?

Again, I'm just being realistic. I don't know really know what more I can say if you don't like my statements.

What a solid point you made here. Btw. you are aware that Nintendo sells remasters? With enough demand that they even continue doing so?

And are you aware that these remasters aren't doing anything to help boost the sales of their home console?


And finally, 3rd party games can sell, problem with Wii U was that sometimes the 3rds actively tried to make a Wii U port look like wasted money. Missing DLC, missing game/online modes, offering a better product cheaper than a port on Wii U at the same time.

FYI -- some multiplats (especially from EA) on the 360 and PS3 from 2006-2008 had many missing features. Core gamers still bought them though since these systems attracted that userbase. It doesn't matter how good a port for a Nintendo console is -- if the userbase isn't there then the game will still sell poorly.

Jumping.to.freaking.conclusions.

Not.being.realistic.and.wanting.to.live.in.a.fantasy.land.where

Nintendo.can.greatly.catch.up.in.the.home.console.space.by.

releasing.a.console.outside.of.the.Holiday.season.
 
The NX is also a departure from their previous systems architectually, and it represents a major pivot in how they not only make games but do business with other companies. It's a policy shifter. I don't blame them one bit for not wanting to showcase it prematurely.

You would be right if they showed little information, but what you said does not explain that they have said nothing at all.

The more likely explanation is that they have nothing worthy of showing or maybe its something that can be easily copied... but then whats the point?
 
If E3 would be irrelevant, Nintendo wouldn't be there. If E3 would be the only relevant place to show software and hardware, noone would show software and hardware outside of it.
 
If I'm Nintendo and I want to screw over my hardcore Zelda fans who were on the fence about WiiU I would deny the the port of the NX version of Zelda to move some more units only to announce it later. They can't be that cruel.

If people are going to wait for Zelda to come out to buy it why would they buy it early?

They would have to deny it up to the launch day...
 
Before this announcement:

"Man, E3 is going to be so HYPE!!!one11!, I can't (should be a 'not' there) wait. I am so stoked to finally see what Nintendo will bring. They better have their A-game on the World's Stage when all eyes are on the big 3!!!zero11!"

After the announcement:

"E3 is irrelevent, this was a good move by Nintendo. I mean, who watches E3 anyways... it is not like we have threads on here that move faster than the speed of light when it hits. Fuck E3, Nintendo Direct is where it is at."

Great thread so far. ;P

Not me though. Anything I've said was more towards Nintendo and how curious, exciting and interesting their future may turn out with the NX. I don't believe I've made a comment about E3 outside of a couple of possibilities of ways it might get shown off or how they may handle it.

I've kept hype and expectations in check for the most part. I also kept myself in check for any possible NX news and I should be on one of the earlier pages of this thread saying that too.

As for E3's relevancy, I've been saying it for years already and how the companies should branch out more and not overly rely on E3 to show things off, and that it shouldn't be this one big Christmas like event with catastrophic highs and self-destructive lows.

The "gotcha" stuff is getting rather annoying.

EDIT: mistake. I meant the previous thread when everyone was hyping themselves up for this briefing. I said not to expect anything as it's mostly meant for investors and not us.
 
I feel sorry for NOA and Treehouse

They probably got some email detailing the E3 plans and were like "wtf is this? How are we supposed to fill 4-5 days of E3 with this much content?"
 
lmao

the thing about e3 is it's covered on the news, in newspapers, it's all over social media... not the case with a nintendo direct.

though if nintendo does a separate live press conference like sony and ms did with their new consoles in 2013 it should get mainstream press

if Nintendo were positioning themselves to appeal to cable news networks and newspapers then they would actually be out of touch

Directs do great with social media and online new sources though, including mainstream news outlets
 
Not me though. Anything I've said was more towards Nintendo and how curious, exciting and interesting their future may turn out with the NX. I don't believe I've made a comment about E3 outside of a couple of possibilities of ways it might get shown off or how they may handle it.

I've kept hype and expectations in check for the most part. I also kept myself in check for in possible NX news and I should be on one of the earlier pages of this thread saying that too.

As for E3's relevancy, I've been saying it for years already and how the companies should branch out more and not overly rely on E3 to show things off, and that it shouldn't be this one big Christmas like event with catastrophic highs and self-destructive lows.

The "gotcha" stuff is getting rather annoying.

Being a skeptic at heart is good policy. I was expecting an E3 reveal, but I don't think NX's success hinges on it. They have far bigger dragons to slay.
 
lmao

the thing about e3 is it's covered on the news, in newspapers, it's all over social media... not the case with a nintendo direct.

though if nintendo does a separate live press conference like sony and ms did with their new consoles in 2013 it should get mainstream press

News and newspapers only talk about a few things of E3, there're thing that show up at E3 that go completely under the radar of the general media and then like everything in the non-specialized media some people don't pay any attention to it.

Nobody is gonna buy a console to play madden.

FTFY. Perhaps they won't get Madden '17 but they'll get Madden '18 when it releases?

I feel sorry for NOA and Treehouse

They probably got some email detailing the E3 plans and were like "wtf is this? How are we supposed to fill 4-5 days of E3 with this much content?"

That's assuming they're even showing up at E3, or that they'll be there the entire event.
 
Before this announcement:

"Man, E3 is going to be so HYPE!!!one11!, I can't (should be a 'not' there) wait. I am so stoked to finally see what Nintendo will bring. They better have their A-game on the World's Stage when all eyes are on the big 3!!!zero11!"

After the announcement:

"E3 is irrelevent, this was a good move by Nintendo. I mean, who watches E3 anyways... it is not like we have threads on here that move faster than the speed of light when it hits. Fuck E3, Nintendo Direct is where it is at."

"P.S. Gerstamann has been forgiven for his TP review, and is so right about his jaded E3 perspective."


Great thread so far. ;P

What a time to be alive.

Guess the Neo can get delayed now too, since many Nintendo fans thought it was coming out his year only to battle the much more powerful NX?
 
I think not releasing the console this year means they don't want it to be compared to PS4k which makes sense but it also implies they may be trying to make a console that will compete with PS4/X1 in power, which I think is a bad choice for Nintendo.
 
Not me though. Anything I've said was more towards Nintendo and how curious, exciting and interesting their future may turn out with the NX. I don't believe I've made a comment about E3 outside of a couple of possibilities of ways it might get shown off or how they may handle it.

I've kept hype and expectations in check for the most part. I also kept myself in check for in possible NX news and I should be on one of the earlier pages of this thread saying that too.

As for E3's relevancy, I've been saying it for years already and how the companies should branch out more and not overly rely on E3 to show things off, and that it shouldn't be this one big Christmas like event with catastrophic highs and self-destructive lows.

The "gotcha" stuff is getting rather annoying.

It is a good position to take. And I agree. I was just being a smartass as per usual at times.

And a lot of companies are branching out... hence the other trade shows, and Sony and sort of Nintendo doing their own events.
 
E3 conferences on Twitch get hundreds of thousands of viewers, and if a gamer misses it live, they'll get that news through word of mouth/social media.
 
To those who think Q1 2017 was the plan all along: why was Zelda U still dated for this year as of just a few months ago? Were they really just planning to undercut the NX version by releasing it for Wii U months earlier?



...well, that's a "yes," then? Agree to disagree, I suppose.

Almost certainly production is playing a part in this. But what I don't know is if it's a tape-out constraint if the 14nm rumors are true, or if they hit a massive fault in design.

The NX was definitely initially planned for 2016 holiday. Software isn't the answer. Everything has shifted back a few months because of the NX not the other way around.

What a time to be alive.

Guess the Neo can get delayed now too, since many Nintendo fans thought it was coming out his year only to battle the much more powerful NX?

What if both hit 2017 for similar reasons? I dont think 14nm is going to be ready this year for PS4K.
 
That's not what I'm saying at all. The reason why E3 is still somewhat relevant is because news networks dedicate time to covering games. It's not much, but it's still more than nintendo direct gets.

It's primarily an opportunity to make the media feel special, always has been.

That said, I generally enjoy it. Will be sad to see it go when it finally does.
 
Maybe they realized that launching a console with 3 games doesnt work anymore. I'm sure devs (if any are on board lol) will be happy to have time with the dev kit.
 
lmao

the thing about e3 is it's covered on the news, in newspapers, it's all over social media... not the case with a nintendo direct.

though if nintendo does a separate live press conference like sony and ms did with their new consoles in 2013 it should get mainstream press

E3 gets coverage because the big boys are there, Nintendo is a big boy so they should get coverage, even today got coverage.

Nintendo will be fine without E3 just as E3 will be fine without Nintendo since they still get a lot of big boys.
 
Before this announcement:

"Man, E3 is going to be so HYPE!!!one11!, I can't (should be a 'not' there) wait. I am so stoked to finally see what Nintendo will bring. They better have their A-game on the World's Stage when all eyes are on the big 3!!!zero11!"

After the announcement:

"E3 is irrelevent, this was a good move by Nintendo. I mean, who watches E3 anyways... it is not like we have threads on here that move faster than the speed of light when it hits. Fuck E3, Nintendo Direct is where it is at."

"P.S. Gerstamann has been forgiven for his TP review, and is so right about his jaded E3 perspective."


Great thread so far. ;P

What do you expect from fanboys?

And I use the term fanboy in the most neutral way here. But that's how it is, they are trying to sell you everything Nintendo does as justified and part of a great master plan.
 
Nintendo still with those moves that leaves ya with your head scratching. Why missing E3 and holydays? They rea automatically leaving the path clear for Sony. In march, the people that could buy NX would have put their money on PS4K. I had faith in them, kind of blind. NX gotta be a killer machine, with a killer line up -first and third party-...or they are fucked...And it´s not going to be easy despising E3 and Holiday season...Will Nintendo be the next Sega? This 8th console generation sucks....
 
News and newspapers only talk about a few things of E3, there're thing that show up at E3 that go completely under the radar of the general media and then like everything in the non-specialized media some people don't pay any attention to it.



FTFY. Perhaps they won't get Madden '17 but they'll get Madden '18 when it releases?



That's assuming they're even showing up at E3, or that they'll be there the entire event.

Nah madden is one of the best selling games every year. I know plenty of people that only madden and cod. And the occasional exclusive.
 
What a time to be alive.

Guess the Neo can get delayed now too, since many Nintendo fans thought it was coming out his year only to battle the much more powerful NX?

I've literally not seen one Nintendo fan expecting NX to be more powerful than Neo.

Nice strawman though ;)
 
Nintendo still with those moves that leaves ya with your head scratching. Why missing E3 and holydays? They rea automatically leaving the path clear for Sony. In march, the people that could buy NX would have put their money on PS4K. I had faith in them, kind of blind. NX gotta be a killer machine, with a killer line up -first and third party-...or they are fucked...And it´s not going to be easy despising E3 and Holiday season...Will Nintendo be the next Sega? This 8th console generation sucks....

Will people buy PS4K? PSVR? or both? Because there isn't a date for PS4K yet.

Nah madden is one of the best selling games every year. I know plenty of people that only madden and cod. And the occasional exclusive.

Sure, but I don't think anybody ever would buy a NX solely for Madden even if they both came out at the same time though, however Nintendo should be sure to get the new Madden/CoD/FIFA/etc every year.
 
The best thing Nintendo could do at tonight's briefing would be to clearly explain their reasoning for not bringing NX to E3, as well as to provide some specifics about when and how they'll execute the actual reveal.

This being Nintendo, we'll probably just get a vague PR-speak excuse and an event announced out of nowhere sometime this summer or early fall.
 
A 2017 launch was always extremely likely but anyone even suggesting it got buried with snarky posts from fans in the NX thread.

2016 was never real

I've mentioned it many times in the NX speculation threads. Nintendo would be stupid to release it in 2016 with how stiff the competition is. This... doesn't seem much better though.
 
What do you expect from fanboys?

And I use the term fanboy in the most neutral way here. But that's how it is, they are trying to sell you everything Nintendo does as justified and part of a great master plan.

Is he even quoting anyone? Who are "they" exactly? Quote people or you're just hiveminding.
 
You missed the whole NX more powerful rumor threads a few weeks ago did you?

Those got out of control. And when some things got debunked in the least negative way possible that it sounds still very good, everyone freaked out because of their speculation bubble burst.

So far the only concrete thing we have is that the CPU is better than the Xbox One's (which is better than the PS4's). And it was said by a person who has legitimate credentials of leaking many of Nintendo's CPUs with great accuracy.
 
Wow, I think my hype has completely died. NX has to either be just a handheld or a truly mind-blowing console for me to get it now. I'm even considering holding off on my graphics card upgrade this summer in favor of saving up for a flagship one instead. :/ They better announce a reveal date before July or I think they lost a sale from me...

Those got out of control. And when some things got debunked in the least negative way possible that it sounds still very good, everyone freaked out because of their speculation bubble burst.

So far the only concrete thing we have is that the CPU is better than the Xbox One's (which is better than the PS4's). And it was said by a person who has legitimate credentials of leaking many of Nintendo's CPUs with great accuracy.

I don't believe that rumor, and even if it's true there's now enough time for it to be downgraded before release.
 
Nx already feels like wiiu.

Nobody is gonna buy a console to play madden in March.

i'm waking up and seeing this thrown around and i'm baffled why this is even being discussed at all. I can understand questioning who is buying a new console in March in droves but when was Madden ever a game people bought a Nintendo system for? It's beyond apparent Zelda is what Nintendo is banking on people buying the NX for. For whatever reason they cannot release NX this holiday, maybe they know Sony and MS are both releasing their .5 systems, or PSVR this holiday and don't want to compete with them and they for some reason think they will do better in March. If the rumor is true most or all third parties sound like they don't even have dev kits or at least not final ones, if thats true it seems like Nintendo isn't changing at all with their attitude towards third parties. Maybe they need more time to develop a couple more games of their own for launch or some remasters. Either way third parties have never been and will never be part of their plans.
 
if EA and Activision aren't significant than we have nothing else to discuss lol

The problem with this premise is that EA and Activision still have a significant presence at the event. Yes, neither of them are officially partaking in the floor space offered by the ESA, but Activision will have stage time at somebody else's conference, and EA will be in town taking advantage of the media buzz. E3™ as a brand may be declining in relevance, but this is still the one time of the year when all eyes are on the video game industry. And Nintendo doesn't seem to care.

Honestly, I'd find these arguments about Nintendo's strategy more compelling if they were showing themselves to be anything other than inept when it comes to marketing their home consoles.
 
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