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[Prisoner KSC2-303]

I find it weird that they've confirmed Zelda for NX, are saying Zelda will be the main focus of e3, but no NX at e3. Are they seriously not going to show off the NX version, and stick strictly to Wii U? Seems really weird to let us know there will be a better version coming, but not to show it off.

It'll definitely be strange. I mean, everyone playing it will be wondering about the NX version, even if it's great on the Wii U.

It's not a bad idea in terms of building hype though, as they're effectively showing off one of the NX centre-pieces without actually having to unveil the hardware.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I personally think Nintendo is just going an "Apple" route with their next platforms and services. Why announce the NX at E3 and share the limelight with competitors (get lost in the sauce) when you can hold your own event and have the focus be solely on your products? It's something "Apple" would do, and I think Nintendo wants to be more like them. I think this move pays off for Nintendo. It's not like they have to hurry or anything, and with 4 devices comming out from competitors, a delayed approached seems like the safest and beneficial answer.

Nobody covers Apple events though. Apple should be at GDC and other tech conferences if they want to get coverage from CNN and Forbes. /s

 

[Russ T]

Those are not gimmicks and you know it.

They 100% were.

N64 controller was the first with a thumbstick (although not the first analog stick, technically).

N64 controller was first with rumble.

N64 controller was first with rear trigger button.

SNES controller was first with shoulder buttons.

NES gamepad was the first gamepad.

Game & Watch was first with d-pad.

Nintendo please stop doing gimmicks we wouldn't want you to add anything new to gaming ever again.

ONLY TRADITIONAL CONTROLS (THAT YOU SET THE STANDARD FOR).

PLEASE DON'T EVER DO ANYTHING NEW (UNLESS I LIKE IT).

*Some of this may not be completely accurate, but what's not inaccurate is that even fi they weren't the first, they set the standard that followed.

 

[Spieler Eins]

I personally think Nintendo is just going an "Apple" route with their next platforms and services. Why announce the NX at E3 and share the limelight with competitors (get lost in the sauce) when you can hold your own event and have the focus be solely on your products? It's something "Apple" would do, and I think Nintendo wants to be more like them. I think this move pays off for Nintendo. It's not like they have to hurry or anything, and with 4 devices comming out from competitors, a delayed approached seems like the safest and beneficial answer.

Because Nintendo's public perception right now is either non-existent among very large groups of the gaming population, or simply piss poor after the WiiU debacle. They are far from Apple and probably delusional, if they think right now they are even close to brand power like that. No one that matters for sales success (during early phases of a console) is gonna care that Nintendo's gonna have their own ,,event" sometime during the end of the year, when everyone's getting ready to buy PS4 Neos and VR. They need to show confidence and strength for their next product when the entire industry is watching, instead of actively not giving a shit about their diminishing brand recognition with idiotic stunts like this.
In their current position, they need to keep certain industry standards and they absolutely can't afford to believe that people will follow their own rules just like that. Nothing they've done recently would make them deserve that.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

They are far from Apple and probably delusional, if they think right now they are even close to brand power like that.

At Apple's lowest point in the mid 90's, they still held their own events. And guess what? Media outlets covered them.

If Nintendo starts holding their own conferences, they will absolutely, without question, be given press coverage.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

1) Game demo's aren't ready enough to be shown

2) Final design hasn't been decided on

3) Or Nintendo doesn't want PS4k, Xbox One Mark II and VR raining on their parade.

The latter point could be one reason; if your competition has a really good E3 they can throw a shadow over you and your reveal. With your own event you can get all the attention.

It'll be in July / August. The last frame of their Zelda presentation will be "See you at Space World"

I'm calling either July 22-24 or August 19-21

EDIT: The August date is claimed by Gamescom, and the following weekend is PAX Prime. Late July is my guess now.

 

[Milly Osworth]

They 100% were.

N64 controller was the first with a thumbstick (although not the first analog stick, technically).

N64 controller was first with rumble.

N64 controller was first with rear trigger button.

SNES controller was first with shoulder buttons.

NES gamepad was the first gamepad.

Game & Watch was first with d-pad.

Nintendo please stop doing gimmicks we wouldn't want you to add anything new to gaming ever again.

ONLY TRADITIONAL CONTROLS (THAT YOU SET THE STANDARD FOR).

PLEASE DON'T EVER DO ANYTHING NEW (UNLESS I LIKE IT).

*Some of this may not be completely accurate, but what's not inaccurate is that even fi they weren't the first, they set the standard that followed.

Definition of gimmick
: a method or trick that is used to get people's attention or to sell something.

What you are listing is improvents of the standard controller that you hold in your hands. Im not against improving of what works.

Nintendo since the Wii is desperately trying to get everyones attention with a gimmick. Their main focus is not improving on what already works well and that sucks.

Nintendo isn't trying to improve the car by trying to make it self driving or run on electricity, but they make the car donut shaped just to get peoples attention.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

It'll be in July / August. The last frame of their Zelda presentation will be "See you at Space World"

I'm calling either July 22-24 or August 19-21

EDIT: The August date is claimed by Gamescom, and the following weekend is PAX Prime. Late July is my guess now.

I'm going to go with September.

 

[Anth0ny]

It is pretty awkward, isn't it? Especially considering the so-called gimmicks on Wii, Wii U, DS, and 3DS are actually awesome.

They 100% were.

N64 controller was the first with a thumbstick (although not the first analog stick, technically).

N64 controller was first with rumble.

N64 controller was first with rear trigger button.

SNES controller was first with shoulder buttons.

NES gamepad was the first gamepad.

Game & Watch was first with d-pad.

Nintendo please stop doing gimmicks we wouldn't want you to add anything new to gaming ever again.

ONLY TRADITIONAL CONTROLS (THAT YOU SET THE STANDARD FOR).

PLEASE DON'T EVER DO ANYTHING NEW (UNLESS I LIKE IT).

*Some of this may not be completely accurate, but what's not inaccurate is that even fi they weren't the first, they set the standard that followed.

those are all logical evolutions of the traditional video game controller

wii and wii u are weird bullshit that had great games IN SPITE of the controller, not because of it (of course there are a couple exceptions)

the "gimmicks" on nintendo consoles before ds/wii/3ds/wii u were never forced or a detriment to the game, like a donkey kong country returns on wii, or a star fox zero on wii u, or a zelda phantom hourglass on ds. that is why the word "gimmick" has such a negative connotation when associated with nintendo nowadays.

people want a traditional ass controller. a console that doesn't compromise in power and performance because they have an expensive controller and have to keep costs down. nintendo consoles before wii never had that compromise.

 

[Spieler Eins]

At Apple's lowest point in the mid 90's, they still held their own events. And guess what? Media outlets covered them.

If Nintendo starts holding their own conferences, they will absolutely, without question, be given press coverage.

And no one of significance is gonna care about that coverage. Just like Directs. What they'll get is tons of bad press during the most important event the industry has each year though. After that, they'll already be handicapped (for no reason other than stubbornness). While other platforms like VR/PS4K will be established easily without any kind of opposing force/alternative presented for the near future.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

And no one of significance is gonna care about that coverage.

Highly, highly doubtful.

 

[Russ T]

Definition of gimmick
: a method or trick that is used to get people's attention or to sell something.

Right, like making a gamepad instead of a joystick, or making a weird-ass three-pronged controller, or adding rumble.

 

[SneakersSO]

Don't want to sound like an ass, but why exactly would they tell you anything?

I mean, why wouldn't they tell me things? We're all devs; we share things about what we hear or are working on or that we see all the time. We just don't go out & leak it to the public.

 

[Dark Cloud]

It'll be in July / August. The last frame of their Zelda presentation will be "See you at Space World"

I'm calling either July 22-24 or August 19-21

EDIT: The August date is claimed by Gamescom, and the following weekend is PAX Prime. Late July is my guess now.

I really want to say late July because that gives them a month removed from E3 + I'm selfish and want news lol. But I think it's going to be September to bring it a little closer to launch and build the hype through the holidays.

 

[A Link to the Past]

At the time they certainly were gimmicks. The only reason you don't see them as such is because they've been widely adopted.

But they were refinements. The Wii, the DS, the 3DS, and the Wii U didn't refine controls, they added controls. The Z-button was a refinement because it added an extra button that a finger that wasn't commonly used could use, for instance.

 

[Anth0ny]

I do think, unless Zelda is literally the greatest thing ever (it won't be), Nintendo is going to get a fair bit of negative press this E3.

"LOL they only showed up with Zelda"

"Nintendo refuses to talk about their new console"

that's all it's going to be. they somehow botched the playable reveal of their new 3D Zelda.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I do think, unless Zelda is literally the greatest thing ever (it won't be), Nintendo is going to get a fair bit of negative press this E3.

"LOL they only showed up with Zelda"

"Nintendo refuses to talk about their new console"

that's all it's going to be. they somehow botched the playable reveal of their new 3D Zelda.

I think that type of bad press is a whole lot better than revealing the system before it's ready to be shown.

I'm sure they could show plenty in June but the first impression of this console needs to be pretty damn impressive. If they can blow people away a few months later, it's probably worth it.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I think that type of bad press is a whole lot better than revealing the system before it's ready to be shown.

I'm sure they could show plenty in June but the first impression of this console needs to be pretty damn impressive.

I do think, unless Zelda is literally the greatest thing ever (it won't be), Nintendo is going to get a fair bit of negative press this E3.

"LOL they only showed up with Zelda"

"Nintendo refuses to talk about their new console"

that's all it's going to be. they somehow botched the playable reveal of their new 3D Zelda.

Meh. Who cares? They got insane negative press from 2015's E3. It won't mean anything when they're ready to reveal the NX. The NX is all that matters. Like I've said before I want them to do what it takes to get it right with this system unlike the Wii U.

 

[SneakersSO]

I do think, unless Zelda is literally the greatest thing ever (it won't be), Nintendo is going to get a fair bit of negative press this E3.

"LOL they only showed up with Zelda"

"Nintendo refuses to talk about their new console"

that's all it's going to be. they somehow botched the playable reveal of their new 3D Zelda.

See, this is why refusing to talk about NX in any capacity at E3 is such a blunder. Cause them not talking about it is going to speak way louder than any of the things they want to talk about.

I mean, if there are certain aspects that aren't ready to be talked about, fine, don't. But you can share the vision for what the NX is supposed to be, or what sort of features you're looking to support, or what kind of audience you're aiming this for. Something.

 

[AniHawk]

those are all logical evolutions of the traditional video game controller

wii and wii u are weird bullshit that had great games IN SPITE of the controller, not because of it (of course there are a couple exceptions)

the "gimmicks" on nintendo consoles before ds/wii/3ds/wii u were never forced or a detriment to the game, like a donkey kong country returns on wii, or a star fox zero on wii u, or a zelda phantom hourglass on ds. that is why the word "gimmick" has such a negative connotation when associated with nintendo nowadays.

people want a traditional ass controller. a console that doesn't compromise in power and performance because they have an expensive controller and have to keep costs down. nintendo consoles before wii never had that compromise.

the wii remote wasn't a compromise between power and ideas. the wii remote was their way to differentiate their product from the competition because the competition decided to go after a company-killing suicide model and nintendo couldn't afford to follow. the ds actually increased the price of nintendo handhelds for basically the first time ever while staying consistent with nintendo's power increases from the gb to gba and to ds.

the wii u gamepad and the 3d in 3ds on the other hand certainly were that though, absolutely. 3d in 3ds made the device more expensive for all parties concerned, and made performance weaker on the machine when it didn't really benefit many games. wii u gamepad was just a huge anchor.

 

[KidGalactus]

At the time they certainly were gimmicks. The only reason you don't see them as such is because they've been widely adopted.

Innovations are just gimmicks that people like.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

well for one they probably don't consider them pointless but mainly because its different experience than the other console they probably have. I have 2 games for my XB1...I don't even have that any exclusives for my ps4 but I buy most multiplatform games for that. The two systems are too similar and in the end the Ps4 is "better" because it gets Japanese games that the XB1 doesn't. I just don't think the market needs yet another console that does the same shit.

If Nintendo Games is enough for people to jump in...I will be shocked. I can already see "well I could get the NX but I'd buy most games for the PS4/XB1 I already have...so I'll wait for a price drop". The NX has to sell to the non Nintendo audience that more than likely have one of the other consoles....I just don't know if more of the same will attract that audience. It needs a draw to it. Perhaps not a Gimmick but something to set it apart beyond just Nintendo games. Its enough for me to jump on board but I don't think many people are like me and have money to throw at consoles for a few games.

Ok, I see where you're coming from, but why does the console need to have some sort of uniqueness to sell? As long as it plays games well the rest is just gravy. I love my WII U but lets face it the tablet was a huge mis-read by Nintendo - now if they had boxed in the pro pad instead maybe things would have gone better from a hardcore gamer adaption.

As for setting itself apart, Nintendo games do that all by themselves - I've had more fun with splatoon in recent memory than I have with CoDs post MW2 and battlefield post BF3

 

[The_Lump]

There was literally nothing else for them to do. Funny gaf has been preaching this for the past 3 years. They do it. "HORRIBLE MOVE!"

This is was makes me laugh the most! It's fun to watch.

We've all known they made the wrong move with WiiU years ago. They fucked up. Correcting that mistake requires drastic changes. We are now seeing the results of those drastic changes. They have to happen. End of story.

 

[Sandfox]

And no one of significance is gonna care about that coverage. Just like Directs. What they'll get is tons of bad press during the most important event the industry has each year though. After that, they'll already be handicapped (for no reason other than stubbornness). While other platforms like VR/PS4K will be established easily without any kind of opposing force/alternative presented for the near future.

I don't really see how you can believe this unless you just don't pay attention to the media.

 

[Not]

I find it weird that they've confirmed Zelda for NX, are saying Zelda will be the main focus of e3, but no NX at e3. Are they seriously not going to show off the NX version, and stick strictly to Wii U? Seems really weird to let us know there will be a better version coming, but not to show it off.

This is what I'm saying. There's no way this goes well for them

How do you fuck up the hype for this game so bad? It's almost a BVS situation in that it seemed like there was no way to lose

 

[The_Lump]

And no one of significance is gonna care about that coverage. Just like Directs. What they'll get is tons of bad press during the most important event the industry has each year though. After that, they'll already be handicapped (for no reason other than stubbornness). While other platforms like VR/PS4K will be established easily without any kind of opposing force/alternative presented for the near future.

What does that even mean? Do people care less about gaming news if it doesn't come from a schmoozed up goody-bag toting journalist at e3? That's patently nonsense.

If that were true, no-one would have paid attention to PS4 or XBone reveals cos, ya know, they weren't at e3.

 

[A Link to the Past]

This is was makes me laugh the most! It's fun to watch.

We've all known they made the wrong move with WiiU years ago. They fucked up. Correcting that mistake requires drastic changes. We are now seeing the results of those drastic changes. They have to happen. End of story.

The way it sounds, Nintendo is really dropping the ball as far as keeping the Wii U stocked with rewarding, quality games. I have a feeling that this is why we got so many lower budget, smaller, and often weird spinoff games like amiibo Festival, Happy Home Designer, Tri-Force Heroes, Star Fox Zero, Federation Forces, and Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash. I'd even put Rhythm Heaven Megamix into that group if it wasn't for the fact that Tsunku's health problems could have been the cause. But yeah, it absolutely feels like they kept their promise on keeping games coming by giving us games that ranged from decent-good to games that were pretty fucking bad. So I think people are stuck between the ball dropping for Wii U and 3DS and crickets chirping for NX.

 

[Spieler Eins]

See, this is why refusing to talk about NX in any capacity at E3 is such a blunder. Cause them not talking about it is going to speak way louder than any of the things they want to talk about.

I mean, if there are certain aspects that aren't ready to be talked about, fine, don't. But you can share the vision for what the NX is supposed to be, or what sort of features you're looking to support, or what kind of audience you're aiming this for. Something.

The fact that they are handicapping themselves like this for no reason (no way they literally can't show anything), also makes me immediately skeptical about NX. It feels like they learned absolutely nothing from WiiU. Still actively spiting industry standards, even though they should be proving the complete opposite in the position they are in right now.
I mean, the announcement is already proving that this decision achieves nothing, but even further increasing the bad image people have of the company. Their goodwill is completely gone. Good luck to them thinking people will just follow them anywhere instead of (even their last fans) jumping to other videogame proposals, based on strong fan communication, like Sony's.

There's only so long you can treat a fanbase like shit by ignoring basic fan feedback, while also staying completely silent. Showing up at the biggest gaming celebration of the year with nothing but ,,1 game in the next 9 months" isn't gonna do them favors. At all. Especially after all the other anger they've been accumulating since last E3 (and WiiU launch, really).

What does that even mean? Do people care less about gaming news if it doesn't come from a schmoozed up goody-bag toting journalist at e3? That's patently nonsense.

If that were true, no-one would have paid attention to PS4 or XBone reveals cos, ya know, they weren't at e3.

PS4 and X1 generally were at E3 though. And E3 simply is the easiest and proven method of demonstrating your products. It's when the entire industry's watching. Skipping it is just nonsensical. Why even take that striking disadvantage?

 

[ShadowFox08]

I wonder the likelihood of Activision supporting CoD:Infinite Warfare for NX at launch in March 2017 is.

 

[AniHawk]

What does that even mean? Do people care less about gaming news if it doesn't come from a schmoozed up goody-bag toting journalist at e3? That's patently nonsense.

If that were true, no-one would have paid attention to PS4 or XBone reveals cos, ya know, they weren't at e3.

in fact, microsoft still gets shit for their e3 2013 conference when they basically just had a conference solely focused on games. it was a pretty good one too, with nice pacing (and a few technical difficulties, but nothing game-ending). people remember that as when they announced all their anti-consumer stuff, but it was actually their may 2013 announcement. the e3 conference was probably the best one of the major 3 that year in terms of content and pacing.

 

[Milly Osworth]

What does that even mean? Do people care less about gaming news if it doesn't come from a schmoozed up goody-bag toting journalist at e3? That's patently nonsense.

If that were true, no-one would have paid attention to PS4 or XBone reveals cos, ya know, they weren't at e3.

E3 is THE gaming convention of the world.

Nintendo should have revealed the NX in april or may for maximum exposure and THEN show it all off at E3.

Nintendo doesnt have the luxury to skip something so big.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

And no one of significance is gonna care about that coverage. Just like Directs. What they'll get is tons of bad press during the most important event the industry has each year though. After that, they'll already be handicapped (for no reason other than stubbornness). While other platforms like VR/PS4K will be established easily without any kind of opposing force/alternative presented for the near future.

This is eye rolling. It's a new console reveal. It WILL get coverage, despite your fantasy world situation where reporters all of a sudden don't care about big news to report. Hell, the NX releasing in 2017 was trending on FB and Twitter and you think the reveal won't be? Is this a joke?

 

[OrbitalBeard]

E3 is THE gaming convention of the world.

Nintendo should have revealed the NX in april or may for maximum exposure and THEN show it all off at E3.

Nintendo doesnt have the luxury to skip something so big.

Well, if the console was launching this year, that would probably have been a good idea, yeah.

 

[Pancake Mix]

It'll be in July / August. The last frame of their Zelda presentation will be "See you at Space World"

I'm calling either July 22-24 or August 19-21

EDIT: The August date is claimed by Gamescom, and the following weekend is PAX Prime. Late July is my guess now.

I never thought Nintendo would do their own trade show again, yet here we are and it's what makes the most sense. Lots of great stuff came out of them so I can't help but be pleased.

Looking forward to the big news.

Never forget Space World 2000

The Legend of Zelda Space World 2000 GameCube demo

Donkey Kong Racing Space World 2000

Nintendo GameCube Commercial (Nintendo Space World 2000)

Conker and Banjo-Threeie tech demos Space World 2000

Rare beta footage of Super Mario 64 from Space World '95

 

[XenodudeX]

E3 is THE gaming convention of the world.

So?

 

[The_Lump]

E3 is THE gaming convention of the world.

Nintendo should have revealed the NX in april or may for maximum exposure and THEN show it all off at E3.

Sure. But given its launching in March (at the earliest), revealing it so far in advance maybe didn't seem like a good idea. They sure as shit learned that the hard way with WiiU.

In an ideal world, it would be ready to show now and ready to blowout at e3. But it isn't. Clearly.

 

[Night Angel]

So?

So it's a pretty damn hard sell that skipping the biggest gaming convention is a good thing regarding announcing a product that will release 9 months after said conference?

If the NX is not ready to show at this point, that should be a cause for concern. The thing will need to go into production in a few months to be ready to launch (assuming they want to sell a few).

Maybe 9 months is a bit early, but they're not going to have a better venue for media coverage. Silence, especially after the last couple years, is not a good look.

 

[thefro]

So it's a pretty damn hard sell that skipping the biggest gaming convention is a good thing regarding announcing a product that will release 9 months after said conference?

I know you mean media coverage, but Gamescom has around 5x the attendance of E3, for example.

 

[The_Lump]

So it's a pretty damn hard sell that skipping the biggest gaming convention is a good thing regarding announcing a product that will release 9 months after said conference?

Again, this is assuming there is no reason for it other than ineptness. Which is extremely unlikely.

There a dozens of potential reasons for this decision.

 

[Milly Osworth]

Sure. But given its launching in March (at the earliest), revealing it so far in advance maybe didn't seem like a good idea. They sure as shit learned that the hard way with WiiU.

In an ideal world, it would be ready to show now and ready to blowout at e3. But it isn't. Clearly.

Yeah and thats why they should have released this year. They obviously had a planning fail or setbacks, but 4 months late and for that missing E3 is just bad news and worrisome.

Why cant Nintendo as a videogame console company timely release a videogame console?

 

[Ansatz]

E3 is THE gaming convention of the world.

Nintendo should have revealed the NX in april or may for maximum exposure and THEN show it all off at E3.

Nintendo doesnt have the luxury to skip something so big.

Can't you tell from the interface of Miitomo and MyNintendo that they're not interested in the traditional gaming audience?

They are gonna double down on the mobile casuals; how many mobile games do you see on the show floor at E3? None, because it's not the right venue to market them there.

It's over, the Nintendo you know doesn't exist anymore.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Can't you tell from the interface of Miitomo and MyNintendo that they're not interested in the traditional gaming audience?

They are gonna double down on the mobile casuals; how many mobile games do you see on the show floor at E3? None, because it's not the right venue to market them there.

It's over, the Nintendo you know doesn't exist anymore.

I didn't realize the NX was cancelled. It all makes sense now!

 

[Rösti]

SpaceWorld was last time held in 2001, August 24 - 26. I made this image for a Twitter post about the event:

An event like this for the unveiling of NX I wouldn't be surprised about. SpaceWorld may not be the best name to go with though, perhaps Nintendo Direct Expo or Nintendo World (which they have used in the past for Wii events in Tokyo) would be better.

Or the reveal will happen during a regular Nintendo Direct broadcast. But I'm hoping they will do something a bit more, at least a live press conference.

SpaceWorld 2001 housed eight games for GameCube and 13 for Game Boy Advance.

Gamecube

• Super Smash Brothers DX
• Luigi's Mansion
• Pikmin
• Wave Race: Blue Storm
• Animal Crossing +
• Star Fox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet
• Dōbutsu Banchō
• Eternal Darkness

Game Boy Advance

• Game Boy Advance Wars
• Legend of Starfy (tentative name)
• Magical Vacation
• Tomato Adventure
• どこでも対局　役満アドバンス (tentative name)
• Luna Blaze (tentative name)
• Fire Emblem: Sealed Sword (tentative name)
• Domo-kun's Mysterious Television (tentative name)
• Battland (tentative name)
• Diddy Kong Pilot (tentative name)
• Saber Wolf (tentative name)
• ハッピィパネッチュ! (Tentative name)
• Super Mario Advance 2

Of course, GameCube was unveiled during SpaceWorld 2000.

 

[Milly Osworth]

What is Sonic doing there!

 

[Spieler Eins]

This is eye rolling. It's a new console reveal. It WILL get coverage, despite your fantasy world situation where reporters all of a sudden don't care about big news to report. Hell, the NX releasing in 2017 was trending on FB and Twitter and you think the reveal won't be? Is this a joke?

When they report about it, Nintendo's already gone through tons of shit during E3 for having nothing to offer. While the marketing and gaining mindshare for the other new platforms (VR) will go into full gear at E3. After all that, people interested in some Nintendo conference will mostly be the same people that also still play WiiU. I.e. the people they don't need to reach. Others will probably shrug, after every other company at E3 is gonna make clear that Nintendo's not the place you want to play games at (or buy new hardware from) in the near future.

E3 isn't a guarantee for success. But there simply is no advantage in skipping it. It's a handicap that has no reason. All it does is make Kimishima look even more lunatic than Iwata. Plus constitute negative narratives.
Even simply thinking that NX isn't ready/good enough to be shown in June is a negative connotation they certainly can't afford right now. Not after their goodwill/respect in the industry fell of a cliff thanks to WiiU.

 

[Sandfox]

What is Sonic doing there!

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle?

When they report about it, Nintendo's already gone through tons of shit during E3 for having nothing to offer and giving off the impression they might as well give up on the industry. While the marketing and gaining mindshare for the other new platforms (VR) will go into full gear at E3. After all that, people interested in some Nintendo conference will mostly be the same people that also still play WiiU. I.e. the people they don't need to reach. Others will probably shrug, after the other companies at E3 gonna make clear that Nintendo's not the place you want to play games at (or buy new hardware from) in the near future.

E3 isn't a guarantee for success. But there simply is no advantage in skipping it. It's a handicap that has no reason. All it does is make Kimishima look even more lunatic than Iwata.
Even simply thinking that NX isn't ready/good enough to be shown in June is a negative connotation they certainly can't afford right now.

I don't see things playing out that way because people aren't just going to ignore news due to the NX being absent from E3. They may not be interested in the device if Nintendo doesn't do enough to convince them, but there will obviously be interest in the coverage.

 

[Ansatz]

I didn't realize the NX was cancelled. It all makes sense now!

Ok, seems that I need to clarify due to misunderstandings. How do you even get that from my post? Oh well

With the last part I meant the fan wet dream of SNES 2.0 is gonna die once and for all, i.e. the idea of Nintendo returning to form with real games (proper, ambitious 3D Mario, etc.) and of course all those popular 3rd party multiplats.

What I mean by doubling down on the mobile audience with NX and ignore traditional games is that they want to lure the casuals they once had back to their systems. They aren't interested in the GTA and CoD gamer.

Expect low price hardware, games as services, f2p, memes, Miis, simplified interfaces, amiibos and all that good stuff.

 

[thefro]

An event like this for the unveiling of NX I wouldn't be surprised about. SpaceWorld may not be the best name to go with though, perhaps Nintendo Direct Expo or Nintendo World (which they have used in the past for Wii events in Tokyo) would be better.

Or the reveal will happen during a regular Nintendo Direct broadcast. But I'm hoping they will do something a bit more, at least a live press conference.

I can't see them revealing the system in Japan only or only having a Japanese feed of a press conference.

I think you'd want to have multiple venues so that journalists from all of Nintendo's markets can play the games.

The Wii September 2006 press conferences (which we called "Wii3") might be a good example.

 

[Eradicate]

I never thought Nintendo would do their own trade show again, yet here we are and it's what makes the most sense. Lots of great stuff came out of them so I can't help but be pleased.

Looking forward to the big news.

Never forget Space World 2000

The Legend of Zelda Space World 2000 GameCube demo

Donkey Kong Racing Space World 2000

Nintendo GameCube Commercial (Nintendo Space World 2000)

Conker and Banjo-Threeie tech demos Space World 2000

Rare beta footage of Super Mario 64 from Space World '95

Awesome! It got used after all!

I really am looking forward to a possible new trade show! They could highlight/feature their new close buddies like they've been doing crossover IPs with to get them involved, as well as partners like DeNA to show off AR tricks!

My crummy, 5 minute update as that picture brought back memories:

 

[bachikarn]

Sure. But given its launching in March (at the earliest), revealing it so far in advance maybe didn't seem like a good idea. They sure as shit learned that the hard way with WiiU.

In an ideal world, it would be ready to show now and ready to blowout at e3. But it isn't. Clearly.

This seems like an overreaction by Nintendo of what you say it's true. I can't think of a whole lot of reasons for why showing it 9 months earlier is detrimental. Unless they are scared it will be overshadowed completely by VR and the Neo. But if they are afraid of that by that much, maybe they should be rethinking the NX.