Hari Seldon
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Unions should have to pay half of any incompetent cop related lawsuit.
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NYPD hits 72 year-old man with scooter, charges with jaywalking, old man wins suit
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Straight Edge
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what is that scooter thing? It looks like he was going 40 mph
Shotgun Kiss
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Fuck that. 100% of the bill should be footed by the officer, at least in this instance. Cops would think twice before being massive cunts if they knew they'd be held just as accountable as any other person, and that they wouldn't be bailed out by their higher-ups/the taxpayer.
The officer here absolutely deserves to be personally sued for $3 million.
3 million dollars is a fair amount to receive in any condition as it's money that can resolve monetary problems for the rest of your days even for a young person, so I don't agree that the settlement should be higher.
That said, it's just that the money doesn't fix all things, his wife gone, his injuries will stay; no amount of money would help it. That's also partly the reason why him taking 3 million or 10 million doesn't matter anymore.
That said, it's just that the money doesn't fix all things, his wife gone, his injuries will stay; no amount of money would help it. That's also partly the reason why him taking 3 million or 10 million doesn't matter anymore.
FreedomFighter
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I hate how taxpayer money has to be used for this type of thing. It's like holding the citizens accountable for police crimes. It's so unfair.
For real. So long as they know that they won't flip the bill and only the taxpayers will, they'll keep going around hurting people with reckless abandon.
hydragonwarrior
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Why they kept protecting such a sadistic asshole is beyond me. He must have had some powerful friends because any sane police force would see him as a liability waiting to happen.
It's not amazing to see humane prisoners when compared to the nypd.
They probably have higher body counts than terrorist groups.
It's because the prisons are filled with poor people who didn't do anything wrong.
gangs and terrorists don't have Unions... and... good members that can't speak out against the others without being treated by the same violence.
Wait.. hmm
vicissitudes
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The cop should have shown more empathy, absolutely. And it looked like he was probably speeding.
But, the old man was crossing the street illegally, was he not? It looked like he was literally walking across the middle of a street, with no crosswalks or intersections, at a slow pace. And it seemed very possible that, in order to avoid this pedestrian who should not have been in the middle of the street, the cop had to swerve and try to avoid him (unsuccessfully), causing the cop to possibly crash and endanger the cop's life.
That seems to be the cop's argument from what I can gather. Seems somewhat reasonable, taken disparately from his other deplorable actions.
But, the old man was crossing the street illegally, was he not? It looked like he was literally walking across the middle of a street, with no crosswalks or intersections, at a slow pace. And it seemed very possible that, in order to avoid this pedestrian who should not have been in the middle of the street, the cop had to swerve and try to avoid him (unsuccessfully), causing the cop to possibly crash and endanger the cop's life.
That seems to be the cop's argument from what I can gather. Seems somewhat reasonable, taken disparately from his other deplorable actions.
adamsappel
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At least this won't get a Defense Force (although the absolving of the wife's death is close; maybe smoking didn't directly cause someone's cancer, it certainly didn't help).
Edit: Oh, I'm too late. He was jaywalking. Deserved to die.
I'm originally from West Virginia, which would be a dystopian nightmare if it wasn't for organized labor, and I see FB posts all the time shitting on unions or taking the side of coal and chemical companies. Unions have become a dirty word, sometimes deservedly so as this case is evidence of. This cop, and the shitty teacher, and the lazy factory worker, and the corrupt union boss, should all be held accountable. There is nothing wrong with having unions (that isn't magnified even more on the other side!).
Edit: Oh, I'm too late. He was jaywalking. Deserved to die.
The unions? B-b-but you're a liberal.
I don't know what makes sense anymore.
I'm originally from West Virginia, which would be a dystopian nightmare if it wasn't for organized labor, and I see FB posts all the time shitting on unions or taking the side of coal and chemical companies. Unions have become a dirty word, sometimes deservedly so as this case is evidence of. This cop, and the shitty teacher, and the lazy factory worker, and the corrupt union boss, should all be held accountable. There is nothing wrong with having unions (that isn't magnified even more on the other side!).
TheExecutive
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What am I missing here with all of this rage? Guy was walking across street and looks like the cop laid down his bike to try and avoid him. Is it just because he arrested him after the fact?
Did you see the video? Why should he have been arrested after the fact anyway?
TheExecutive
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Probably shouldn't have been arrested at all. Some of these comments and hyperbole in this thread caught me off guard.
NintendoGal
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It pisses me off that the tax payers are the ones to foot the bill and not the guy who committed the assault.
The problem with that is then the old man gets screwed. Yeah the cop owes $3 million, but he probably has nowhere close to that, so the old man would get whatever the cop has, but doesn't get anywhere near $3 million.
By having the cop pay 10%, you'd make sure the cop would face a big penalty for their action while also making sure the victim would receive the money they're owed (or at least 90% of it).
psynergylover
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fuckin hell....
probably is gonna have problems for the rest of his life and more insult to injury is that his wife died...NYPD turned the rest of this man's life to shit! 3 mil seems actually low for this; he should also sue the hospital; it's their job to fully evaluate a patient before letting them go, he could've ended in worse condition or even died
probably is gonna have problems for the rest of his life and more insult to injury is that his wife died...NYPD turned the rest of this man's life to shit! 3 mil seems actually low for this; he should also sue the hospital; it's their job to fully evaluate a patient before letting them go, he could've ended in worse condition or even died
King Tubby
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What? No he's not. He's crossing right at the corner of the intersection.
Look up Liberty Avenue and Barbey Street on google and pull up the Street view. You can see exactly where he was crossing, it's on the very corner.
The officer fabricated the whole thing.
Did you even bother to read the OP or the story?
VanquishUK
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Isn't that when you're walking in the road with no regard for oncoming traffic? That certainly doesn't include crossing the road after looking both ways.
Splatterpunk
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Not really.
Usually, crossing the street at anywhere else but the crosswalk/corner (or against the don't walk sign). Technically illegal, but pretty much ubiquitous in NY, and only selectively enforced (usually due to contempt of cop or a CYA situation like this one). But it doesn't even matter in this case, because he wasn't jaywalking. The cop was speeding and lost control, 100% his fault. Only reason he couldn't weasel his way out of it is due to the security cam footage.
Ah, I see. Wasn't questioning anything by the way, just didn't know that word (not a native speaker). Cheers.
edit: yeah I'd like to know what his speed was. He wasn't even on duty was he?
Muppet of a Man
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Welp, that about wraps it up. Nothing else to see here.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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Amazing abuse of power.
DiscoJer
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The incident in the first place is one thing. Accidents happen, even though the cop was likely at fault for speeding.
But the police harassment of him, the falsification of evidence should be completely unacceptable. That cop (and anyone who helped him) should be in jail for a long, long time for that.
But the police harassment of him, the falsification of evidence should be completely unacceptable. That cop (and anyone who helped him) should be in jail for a long, long time for that.
FreedomFighter
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Anyone ever notice how union- busting is a major part of US history and it still occurs now in the 21st century (see Walmart thing all over the places like fast food restaurants). Where I live, public transportation workers are unionized and many in city administration don't like it at all and would love to do away with that union any chance they get.
But notice how police unions are completely unscathed... the only union the establishment loves unconditionally.
But notice how police unions are completely unscathed... the only union the establishment loves unconditionally.
They're the last line of defense between the aristocracy and the scary poors. It's not going to change.
Christopher
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Oh my god that video is heartbreaking to watch...
flintstryker
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At this point I am starting to think reality is going to put The Onion out of business
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Taxpayers need to stop footing the bill for police negligence and corruption.
Wages should be garnished to account for the payments, and liens placed against possessions to recoup any money from obviously illegal corruption activities like this.
The only way to stop corruption is to hit their pockets.
Wages should be garnished to account for the payments, and liens placed against possessions to recoup any money from obviously illegal corruption activities like this.
The only way to stop corruption is to hit their pockets.
openrob
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As someone who rides a bike, the cop was obviously speeding, and wasnt paying attention. Which is obvious by the speed of which he sled down the road.He saw him late and reacted by slamming on the brakes, also a stupid move. If he was going at a reasonable speed OR saw him early enough he could have just swerved behind him, which incidentaly is not that hard.
It is actually a requirement to make a sucessful swerve at 32MPH/52KPH to pass a motorbike test in the UK. And then Police riders have to pass advanced riding test.
boiled goose
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Yes. Im fucking sick of taxpayers footing the bill for all this bullshit. Individuals need to be PERSONALLY liable here. This isn't a limited liability company where the company can go bankrupt.
The whole incentive structure is fucked.
Conservatives where are you? THIS is big government. This is lack of personal responsibility. This is corruption. This is soft on crime.
Where the fuck is the outrage?
doctorcdcs
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Maybe its due to the type of day I'm having, but I teared up reading the article. Especially after what happened to his wife.
FreedomFighter
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Yep. That was exactly what I was getting at.
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