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[Maiden Voyage]

Opinion | The End of Meat Is Here (Published 2020)

If you care about the working poor, about racial justice, and about climate change, you have to stop eating animals.

www.nytimes.com

Despite this grisly reality — and the widely reported effects of the factory-farm industry on America’s lands, communities, animals and human health long before this pandemic hit — only around half of Americans say they are trying to reduce their meat consumption. Meat is embedded in our culture and personal histories in ways that matter too much, from the Thanksgiving turkey to the ballpark hot dog. Meat comes with uniquely wonderful smells and tastes, with satisfactions that can almost feel like home itself. And what, if not the feeling of home, is essential?

And yet, an increasing number of people sense the inevitability of impending change.
Animal agriculture is now recognized as a leading cause of global warming. According to The Economist, a quarter of Americans between the ages of 25 and 34 say they are vegetarians or vegans, which is perhaps one reason sales of plant-based “meats” have skyrocketed, with Impossible and Beyond Burgers available everywhere from Whole Foods to White Castle.

We cannot protect our environment while continuing to eat meat regularly. This is not a refutable perspective, but a banal truism. Whether they become Whoppers or boutique grass-fed steaks, cows produce an enormous amount of greenhouse gas. If cows were a country, they would be the third-largest greenhouse gas emitter in the world.

Don’t we need animal protein? No.

We can live longer, healthier lives without it. Most American adults eat roughly twice the recommended intake of protein — including vegetarians, who consume 70 percent more than they need. People who eat diets high in animal protein are more likely to die of heart disease, diabetes and kidney failure. Of course, meat, like cake, can be part of a healthy diet. But no sound nutritionist would recommend eating cake too often.

More at the link.

And before anyone accuses me of being a vegan/vegetarian--I'm not nor will I ever be. I'm posting this because I am genuinely curious if others see the transition to a meatless society as the author of the article.

 

[diffusionx]

Eat your bugs and soy cube, citizen.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Ehhhh. I won’t argue that perhaps methods of farming and mass packaging meats have room to improve, and personally I’ve limited my meat consumption to one serving a day (with my second of four daily small meals), but I don’t think The End is here for meat products. Industries adapt and evolve, sciences always come out with something that either glorifies or demonizes something. I believe that in proportion, sensible meat consumption with regular exercise is healthy for most people, but everyone is different.

 

[Master Of Illusion]

Nah.

 

[Stilton Disco]

I've been a vegetarian for over 20 years and even I think this is utter bollocks.

 

[-Arcadia-]

If you care about the working poor, about racial justice, and about climate change, you have to stop eating animals.

As defined by the left, with no relation to reality? I don’t care about any of those things. Om nom nom nom nom.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

The author is simply incorrect when it comes to the value of cattle, greenhouse emissions, and carbon sequestration. Millions of animals larger than cows grazed the plains for tens of thousands of years before European settlers showed up. Cattle can be used to sequester carbon and to do it quite well.

The elites are always trying to tell people what they can or cannot eat, and they're so adamant about it that they'll lie and ignore the potential for meat to accomplish the very same carbon emission reduction that they're asking for.

 

[Tesseract]

not like dis

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Fuck you, Woke New York Times Opinion Writer.

 

[mortal]

If you care about the working poor, about racial justice, and about climate change, you have to stop eating animals.

 

[Lanrutcon]

1. I eat meat.
2. I would adapt and not really mind if meat went away.
3. Meat isn't going away.

Nobody can kill the bbq, man.

 

[DESTROYA]

When was the last time a NYT opinion piece actually made sense?

All I know this weekend I’m BBQn a lot of delicious meat.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

When was the last time a NYT opinion piece actually made sense?

All I know this weekend I’m BBQn a lot of delicious meat.

I smoked a rack of ribs last month. So good.

 

[lachesis]

Well, isn't shrimp sorta like a bug in sea?

To be honest, I would eat bugs if it's raised in cleanest environment and processed enough that it doesn't look like an insect, say - a protein tablet - I would eat it as a supplementary thing.

But that's way----------- down my priority. WAY below SPAM or cheap sausages/wieners I choose SPAM over bugs any day, any time, anywhere!

 

[TrainedRage]

Just ordered 60$ worth of brisket ribs and links.

 

[Papa]

Of course this dude loves soy

 

[HellforLeather]

1. I eat meat.
2. I would adapt and not really mind if meat went away.
3. Meat isn't going away.

Nobody can kill the bbq, man.

This is pretty much where I am at. Synthetic meat has a long way to go before replacing the real deal but I could imagine a future where it might be possible. There needs to be a viable meat substitute though before you can even really talk about this because most people just aint going to switch to Impossible burgers (nor should they since they are apparently terrible for you)

Of course this dude loves soy

This is the picture that comes up when you look up "soy" in the dictionary.

 

[DeepBreath87]

What a coincidence that all the answers to Coronavirus are things the left has been pushing for as long as I can remember. Big fucking coincidence.

 

[Coolwhhip]

Not yet soy boy beta cuck. Once we can make meat without killing animals, sure.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

I'll show you where the end of my meat is and its bursting with protein baby, awwwwwww yeeeahhh

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Once we can make meat without killing animals, sure.

Where's the fun in that?

 

[daveonezero]

fuck industrial animal farms.

Livestock and meat is a survival food. When your crops get taken out by the next locust hoard the cows and chickens will feed everyone.

I just don't support them being treated poorly.

 

[YukiOnna]

you have to stop eating animals

Maybe after this hamburger.

 

[godhandiscen]

The investors behind Beyond Meat and Incredible Meat continue with their campaign.
I see the end of meat because the people with money will make more by selling you the green gob they are trying to pass as meat, not because of anything else.

 

[kingbean]

I kinda wish I could be a frugivore and just sustain off of planet protein and minimal animal protein, but goddamn if a burger isn't the best thing.

 

[infinitys_7th]

My life turned around when I went to eating mostly meat and fats, so I'll pass on this. No thanks.

 

[oagboghi2]

Why can't liberals just leave people the fuck alone

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Of course this dude loves soy

Reaction when his wife's boyfriend brought home Impossible Whoppers from Burger King:

 

[Stouffers]

I’ve got the end of your meat right here..

 

[infinitys_7th]

Why can't liberals just leave people the fuck alone

Because we don't know what is best for us - we need to eat bugs, live in tiny homes stacked up 200 ft tall, and work in wage cages for the approved megacorps. We all just don't live efficiently enough for the gutmensch as we try to build a little comfort in this world.

 

[MetalAlien]

Oh god I live longer? Fuck that give me a steak.

 

[Lone Wolf]

My life turned around when I went to eating mostly meat and fats, so I'll pass on this. No thanks.

Same here, went Keto, mostly carnivore and have never been healthier. bloodwork comes back perfect every physical now.

 

[infinitys_7th]

Same here, went Keto, mostly carnivore and have never been healthier. bloodwork comes back perfect every physical now.

 

[TheGreatYosh]

That is what they're planning. I highly recommend reading AGENDA 2030. The media is the promotion arm.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

I’m fine with going free from animal protein, as soon as lab grown meat tastes as good and doesn’t bankrupt me.

In the mean time, I’ll take my meat rare

 

[Sakura Doritos]

Co-worker of mine went Keto and lost 75 lbs. I am a bread whore. How can I be converted to Keto. What did you do mentally? Help me sempai.

 

[Ragnarok]

NYT op-eds are a fucking nightmare. Might as well go read Mother Jones.

 

[Sakura Doritos]

NYT op-eds are a fucking nightmare. Might as well go read Mother Jones.

Unfortunately, the Op-eds are what drive the MSM talking points these days not the actual news.

 

[infinitys_7th]

Co-worker of mine went Keto and lost 75 lbs. I am a bread whore. How can I be converted to Keto. What did you do mentally? Help me sempai.

I'd say just go cold turkey if possible. Eat up your food at home and replace it with keto-friendly foods as you go until it is all you have. Once you drop the carbs you will lose cravings for them in a week or two. You should never feel hungry if you eat meat and fibrous veggies and nuts - all of that is bulky, filling food.

 

[Singular7]

That is what they're planning. I highly recommend reading AGENDA 2030. The media is the promotion arm.

Yup, it's all there. Speeding it up in 2020 too.

 

[Airola]

If production of meat gets too small, people will eventually start to kill animals by themselves more.

Wouldn't probably be a bad thing as people would finally face reality again and idealistic nonsense would slowly fade away.

 

[Riven326]

Tell that to China.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Tell that to China.

Media can't criticize China! They are victims to be protected from western imperialists!

 

[SirKicksalot]

Why are they trying to shame me into abandoning meat instead of saying "hey try this plant/insect stuff because it's tasty/interesting/healthy"?

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Why are they trying to shame me into abandoning meat instead of saying "hey try this plant/insect stuff because it's tasty/interesting/healthy"?

Because it's not.

 

[Tesseract]

 

[Riven326]

Why are they trying to shame me into abandoning meat instead of saying "hey try this plant/insect stuff because it's tasty/interesting/healthy"?

Because who the fuck wants to eat bugs? These people are Looney.

 

[Pagusas]

im not so in love with food that I couldnt change on a dime if needed. plus my favorite foods are pasta and seafood anyway. Shrimp and lobsters are basically bugs anyway.

 

[Riven326]

im not so in love with food that I couldnt change on a dime if needed. plus my favorite foods are pasta and seafood anyway. Shrimp and lobsters are basically bugs anyway.

How dare you! Go eat a bug right now and tell me it tastes like shrimp or lobster. The fucking nerve.

 

[TheGreatYosh]

Yup, it's all there. Speeding it up in 2020 too.

Yeah, they gotta lay the ground work. They are pushing it socially first. Then they will implement policy to force the rest of us that don't conform to social pressures.