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NYT - Reconsidering Box Office Bombs Years After the Fact .(Lone Ranger in 20 years?)

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wenis

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Isthar is a fan-fucking-tastic movie and a pre-cursor to the internet prediction machine, bad mouthing a movie into the fucking ground.
 
Wolverine bombed?

I'm betting that was a bomb in the sense of what was expected movie gross wise since Marvel movies like IM 3 and Avengers did a billion+ at the box office. I find it doubtful that studios didn't at least break even with The Wolverine. Plus it's still playing in theatres (2.5 million in the US alone from this past weekend), so it hasn't even reached its final tally in movie ticket sales.
 
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Soon.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Other than the races themselves, the effects for Speed Racer aren't very good. Pity that's pretty much all it's got going for it.

Only one track looks good. The rest are some of the ugliest shit, and most embarrassing CG, that I've ever seen on screen.
 

RedBoot

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Yeah, this article's casting a pretty wide net for what it considers "bombs." Pacific Rim, Wolverine, and Elysium all ended up fine (and are still going, in some cases). They didn't crack a billion, but not every big movie needs to.
 
Pacific Rim did ok here(USA) and great around the world. was no flop.

Elysium was a kinda flop but its making its money back slowly, but will struggle .


still mad and sad at Scott Pilgrim bombing. some day people will embrace you :p
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Pacific Rim did ok here(USA) and great around the world. was no flop.

The Golden Compass was the same deal, but it was a huge flop for the studio because of how the revenue was distributed.
 
Wait.. Pacific Rim bombed? I thought it made good money internationally.

Pacific Rim did "ok" in the US, but generated a lot of revenue overseas, especially China.

The problem is, the studios see a very, very small percentage of the money made in China.
 

GusBus

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Sorry NYT, Ishtar is a piece of shit. I watched it recently, and while Hoffmann and Beatty are entertaining, the movie itself is bland as the sand. If you're under thirty years old, nothing in that movie passes for comedy. There were many great movies to come out of the eighties; that was not one of them.
 

kswiston

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The Wolverine doesn't belong on that list. It had a budget of $120M, and has already made $350M worldwide. I'm not sure if the movie is getting a Chinese release, but it will finish in the $375M range without one, and maybe $400M with one.

At this point, Pacific Rim is more a box office disappointment than an outright flop. $400M in receipts, with ~$110M from China, probably puts the movie at around $150-160M in net earnings. The budget was $190M. Obviously this does not include marketing costs, but home video, TV rights, and merchandising will offset that.
 

AlternativeUlster

Absolutely pathetic part deux
Isn't the Wolverine also the highest grossing Xmen movie worldwide (minus the US) even though it is the lowers grossing Xmen movie in the US?
 
Bullet point responses:


- I loved Ishtar when it came out. It cast Hofmann and Beatty against type, and made them both losers on top of that. Brilliant. And it was a great hommage to the Road pictures, which I loved as a kid.

- Waterworld was as good or bad as any big action flick of the time, it just cost too much to make.

- Elysium was a good enough watch, although it's more sci-fi parable than anything more mainstream, and was probably never going to connect with many people. It got the BO it deserved, and more budget than it required. Had John Carpetnter made in the 80s on a showstring and change the tone from somber to irreverent, it'd be a stone-cold classic.

- Tron: Legacy should be on this. At least I think so.

- To the person who mentioned the 80's Lone Ranger flop-- I wouldn't fault the IP for that one-- the movie itself was terrible.

- I need to see John Carter and the Lone Ranger
 

Brandson

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Perhaps many people simply prefer to watch movies at home on bluray or Netflix now compared to going to a movie theatre. The cost of the movie is cheaper at home, you can watch it an unlimited number of times, and the amenities are better at home. While theatre screens are bigger, theatre sound has been taking a dive in recent years. When my wife can even notice that movies sound better on our setup than in the theatres, there's a problem. Waiting 3-6 months for a new release to appear on bluray is a non-issue for us. We don't typically watch tv or movies right away upon release anymore anyway. Expecting big budget summer movies to duplicate box office performance of movies in previous summers is unrealistic. Movies that bomb on release might still do fine later on.
 
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