Obama endorses Hillary Clinton

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Guys, I have a serious (no jerk replies please) question that I will try to keep very brief:

I have a very close friend who is a huge Bernie supporter. I, too, was a huge Bernie supporter. We go way back as political buddies and both supported Obama and everything back in the day. I can't tell you why I stopped supporting Bernie, but it was probably when it became obvious he wasn't going to get the nomination. At that point, even though I wasn't a Hillary fan, I sorta reconciled that she's our best shot and a billion times better than Trump. I'm trying to tell him why I'm supporting her but there is literally a rebuttal for everything--how everything is stacked against Bernie and everything is corrupt, and etc.

The problem is that I BELIEVE this as well, and I do think Wall Street needs to be hit way harder, his foreign policy would be far better, and basically all Bernie's other views I agree with more than Hillary's.

My friend and I are at a point where we continuously argue about this. I don't know how to respond anymore. Every time something is mentioned, he tells me about the corruption behind it, or why Hillary was a reason for something bad, and always has proof to back it up (proof I find credible, btw)

It makes me dislike Hillary a lot, but I still support her. Even despite this, Obama's endorsement energized me, even. He claims I like the people more than the politics. I fear this is also true, but I don't know....

Main questions: What can I do in response to him in explaining why I am supporting her now?
 
Aaron Strife said:
It's just been Clinton for all of her other titles (Secretary Clinton, Senator Clinton etc.)

Don't see why President Clinton would be any different.
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Hahah. It would be kinda funny if the first thing she did after elected was dump Bill. :) But I think she still pretty much likes the guy.
 
Pyrokai said:
Guys, I have a serious (no jerk replies please) question that I will try to keep very brief:

I have a very close friend who is a huge Bernie supporter. I, too, was a huge Bernie supporter. We go way back as political buddies and both supported Obama and everything back in the day. I can't tell you why I stopped supporting Bernie, but it was probably when it became obvious he wasn't going to get the nomination. At that point, even though I wasn't a Hillary fan, I sorta reconciled that she's our best shot and a billion times better than Trump. I'm trying to tell him why I'm supporting her but there is literally a rebuttal for everything--how everything is stacked against Bernie and everything is corrupt, and etc.

The problem is that I BELIEVE this as well, and I do think Wall Street needs to be hit way harder, his foreign policy would be far better, and basically all Bernie's other views I agree with more than Hillary's.

My friend and I are at a point where we continuously argue about this. I don't know how to respond anymore. Every time something is mentioned, he tells me about the corruption behind it, or why Hillary was a reason for something bad, and always has proof to back it up (proof I find credible, btw)

It makes me dislike Hillary a lot, but I still support her. Even despite this, Obama's endorsement energized me, even. He claims I like the people more than the politics. I fear this is also true, but I don't know....

Main questions: What can I do in response to him in explaining why I am supporting her now?
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Pragmatism.
 
Pyrokai said:
Guys, I have a serious (no jerk replies please) question that I will try to keep very brief:

I have a very close friend who is a huge Bernie supporter. I, too, was a huge Bernie supporter. We go way back as political buddies and both supported Obama and everything back in the day. I can't tell you why I stopped supporting Bernie, but it was probably when it became obvious he wasn't going to get the nomination. At that point, even though I wasn't a Hillary fan, I sorta reconciled that she's our best shot and a billion times better than Trump. I'm trying to tell him why I'm supporting her but there is literally a rebuttal for everything--how everything is stacked against Bernie and everything is corrupt, and etc.

The problem is that I BELIEVE this as well, and I do think Wall Street needs to be hit way harder, his foreign policy would be far better, and basically all Bernie's other views I agree with more than Hillary's.

My friend and I are at a point where we continuously argue about this. I don't know how to respond anymore. Every time something is mentioned, he tells me about the corruption behind it, or why Hillary was a reason for something bad, and always has proof to back it up (proof I find credible, btw)

It makes me dislike Hillary a lot, but I still support her. Even despite this, Obama's endorsement energized me, even. He claims I like the people more than the politics. I fear this is also true, but I don't know....

Main questions: What can I do in response to him in explaining why I am supporting her now?
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Just give him time. He'll come around on his own after the convention.
 
Pyrokai said:
Guys, I have a serious (no jerk replies please) question that I will try to keep very brief:

I have a very close friend who is a huge Bernie supporter. I, too, was a huge Bernie supporter. We go way back as political buddies and both supported Obama and everything back in the day. I can't tell you why I stopped supporting Bernie, but it was probably when it became obvious he wasn't going to get the nomination. At that point, even though I wasn't a Hillary fan, I sorta reconciled that she's our best shot and a billion times better than Trump. I'm trying to tell him why I'm supporting her but there is literally a rebuttal for everything--how everything is stacked against Bernie and everything is corrupt, and etc.

The problem is that I BELIEVE this as well, and I do think Wall Street needs to be hit way harder, his foreign policy would be far better, and basically all Bernie's other views I agree with more than Hillary's.

My friend and I are at a point where we continuously argue about this. I don't know how to respond anymore. Every time something is mentioned, he tells me about the corruption behind it, or why Hillary was a reason for something bad, and always has proof to back it up (proof I find credible, btw)

It makes me dislike Hillary a lot, but I still support her. Even despite this, Obama's endorsement energized me, even. He claims I like the people more than the politics. I fear this is also true, but I don't know....

Main questions: What can I do in response to him in explaining why I am supporting her now?
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Bernie Sanders isn't the nomination, and he will support her in the presidential race. So to support Sanders you should support her, as she is much better then Trump at getting the country closer to Sanders' ideals.
 
Pyrokai said:
Guys, I have a serious (no jerk replies please) question that I will try to keep very brief:

I have a very close friend who is a huge Bernie supporter. I, too, was a huge Bernie supporter. We go way back as political buddies and both supported Obama and everything back in the day. I can't tell you why I stopped supporting Bernie, but it was probably when it became obvious he wasn't going to get the nomination. At that point, even though I wasn't a Hillary fan, I sorta reconciled that she's our best shot and a billion times better than Drumpf. I'm trying to tell him why I'm supporting her but there is literally a rebuttal for everything--how everything is stacked against Bernie and everything is corrupt, and etc.

The problem is that I BELIEVE this as well, and I do think Wall Street needs to be hit way harder, his foreign policy would be far better, and basically all Bernie's other views I agree with more than Hillary's.

My friend and I are at a point where we continuously argue about this. I don't know how to respond anymore. Every time something is mentioned, he tells me about the corruption behind it, or why Hillary was a reason for something bad, and always has proof to back it up (proof I find credible, btw)

It makes me dislike Hillary a lot, but I still support her. Even despite this, Obama's endorsement energized me, even. He claims I like the people more than the politics. I fear this is also true, but I don't know....

Main questions: What can I do in response to him in explaining why I am supporting her now?
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It is fine to think that Bernie is a better candidate than Hillary. Bernie is not going to be in the GE though, so the comparison should really be between Hillary and Donald. Reset the clock and pretend Bernie never happened, who would you choose?
 
Pyrokai said:
It makes me dislike Hillary a lot, but I still support her. Even despite this, Obama's endorsement energized me, even. He claims I like the people more than the politics. I fear this is also true, but I don't know....

Main questions: What can I do in response to him in explaining why I am supporting her now?
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I'd turn this back on him.

If he really cares about politics over people then he shouldn't be continuing to cling onto Bernie. Bernie isn't in the picture anymore. It's over.

Love Bernie, wish for Bernie, pine after Bernie all you want. But support and campaign for Hillary, because she's your only horse in this race.
 
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Me after reading my facebook feed's response to "Obama abandoning progressive values for oligarchy"
 
Tar-Miriel said:
Obama has such a nice voice, i'm going to miss it. BTW, what are we going to call Hillary when she's president? President Hillary or President Clinton?
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God Emperor Clinton II, true heir to the throne of his majesty Emperor Barack Hussein Obama.
 
Even if Warren isn't the VP pick she's certainly going to be kept close going forward. No one has taken apart Trump the way she's done and continues to do. I did really like how she brought McConnell into that and called out republicans as a whole. Trump is saying what many republicans feel anyway but would never dare say out loud. Trump is so thin skinned he'll lash out no matter what.
 
Now I see what the meeting was about , Warren and Joe tag teaming Trump tonight

Obama was like "Do what you want, but this train is about take off"
 
Pyrokai said:
Guys, I have a serious (no jerk replies please) question that I will try to keep very brief:

I have a very close friend who is a huge Bernie supporter. I, too, was a huge Bernie supporter. We go way back as political buddies and both supported Obama and everything back in the day. I can't tell you why I stopped supporting Bernie, but it was probably when it became obvious he wasn't going to get the nomination. At that point, even though I wasn't a Hillary fan, I sorta reconciled that she's our best shot and a billion times better than Trump. I'm trying to tell him why I'm supporting her but there is literally a rebuttal for everything--how everything is stacked against Bernie and everything is corrupt, and etc.

The problem is that I BELIEVE this as well, and I do think Wall Street needs to be hit way harder, his foreign policy would be far better, and basically all Bernie's other views I agree with more than Hillary's.

My friend and I are at a point where we continuously argue about this. I don't know how to respond anymore. Every time something is mentioned, he tells me about the corruption behind it, or why Hillary was a reason for something bad, and always has proof to back it up (proof I find credible, btw)

It makes me dislike Hillary a lot, but I still support her. Even despite this, Obama's endorsement energized me, even. He claims I like the people more than the politics. I fear this is also true, but I don't know....

Main questions: What can I do in response to him in explaining why I am supporting her now?
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CHIP.
 
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