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[Netherscourge]

Let's just say if the results of this were to be conclusive to Election tampering.

What would happen?

Trump will sue everybody.

Even himself. He'll sue himself for saying the election was rigged, not realizing it actually was rigged.

 

[Dreez]

62 million votes did sound a little fishy.

 

[DragonSworne]

At this point if there are clear signs of hacking why not just do a vote redo or bar Trump from taking office?

 

[rac]

If Russsia successfully ruined our election to elect a populist president and it was proven, we would have WW3 on our hands.

Kinda feels like we already lost.

That's his point. The electoral college is meant to override this sort of shit.

But it's not.

 

[IamDodongo]

At this point if there are clear signs of hacking why not just do a vote redo or bar Trump from taking office?

Because the party in power (and gaining more power) has everything to gain from ignoring this.

 

[Escape Goat]

Everyone keep your pants on until there's something to report.

 

[TheOMan]

I guess Jill Stein just made a smooth 7 mil then.

She raised 7 million dollars?!?!?

 

[Horns]

No one should be questioning why Obama is doing this. It's in everyone's interest to determine if foreign governments did influence so it can be determined how to prevent it in the future.

 

[DragonSworne]

Because the party in power (and gaining more power) has everything to gain from ignoring this.

Put them on trail for treason then. I think it's pretty clear that the Republicans are a danger to this country and need to be dismantled.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Obama wouldnt do this kind of thing unless he knew he'd get something out of it.

 

[MysteryQuesadilla]

I doubt that this will swing the results of the election. It's wise of him though to get a formal report to review as there was definitely evidence of state-sanctioned hacking of key accounts and figures to at least attempt to influence the election.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Can he even trust the folks looking into this?

One would assume looking into the fbi's role as part of this review, or at least remove them altogether.

 

[wild wild rice]

It's the right thing to do. Hail mary!

 

[Sou Da]

One would assume looking into the fbi's role as part of this review, or at least remove them altogether.

One would hope but still.

 

[Servbot24]

It's good to do this for improving future elections, but it's not going to have any effect for this go-round.

 

[Akuun]

She raised 7 million dollars?!?!?

Yeah, on the recount. She said she'd put any money that didn't go towards the recount towards "training her party".

So in other words, she just scammed the public out of 7 million dollars to put into her own pocket.

 

[netBuff]

Outside influences would be bad, but let's not forget the fact the electoral system is fundamentally broken. I mean, millions of votes don't count. It's ridiculous. The House seats cap from 1911 only worsens the situation.

And voting machines are a terrible idea.

 

[WhateverItTakes]

Isn't this more about the attacks and leaks from the DNC more than the actual election result? Because the response will simply be 'Well they just released THE TRUTH to the people' regardless of how one sided the whole thing was.

 

[RustyNails]

Obama's final promise. Really the hero we need.

 

[MysteryQuesadilla]

Isn't this more about the attacks and leaks from the DNC more than the actual election result? Because the response will simply be 'Well they just released THE TRUTH to the people' regardless of how one sided the whole thing was.

Yes. Russia is seen even by a few prominent congressional GOP members as a destabilizing force.

 

[Creaking]

Obama's final promise. Really the hero we need.

 

[Xe4]

Isn't this more about the attacks and leaks from the DNC more than the actual election result? Because the response will simply be 'Well they just released THE TRUTH to the people' regardless of how one sided the whole thing was.

Yeah, the election results aren't going to be contested. I think they were largely correct too.

What fucks with me is Russia's blatant tampering with he election, and Trump encouraging it. Like seriously, WTF?

 

[DrMungo]

isn't this too late? how will this change anything? There was evidence of this like over 6 months ago

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

In all honesty I hope they find nothing. Don't get me wrong I think we are in for some hard times in the next 4 years. I will fight this next presidency with all I have for the next four years and will get as involved as I can in local politics to ensure we come out the other side of this presidency with as little scars as possible. However, the alternative to finding nothing is nightmare fuel and I don't think our country could survive it, not to mention the ramifications to what it could mean to the stability between the US and Russia.

What if the russians do it again, and again, and again,?

 

[KernelPanic]

Isn't this more about the attacks and leaks from the DNC more than the actual election result? Because the response will simply be 'Well they just released THE TRUTH to the people' regardless of how one sided the whole thing was.

Russia helped spread propaganda and lies to influence voters on the fence. They didn't directly affect the results(at least there is no evidence of it).

Hacking the DNC was the most blatant thing they did, and they are doing it in other countries as well so it's not like the US is singled out here.

USA really needs to improve it's defenses against hacking and intrusion but they're apparently losing all their top talent due to $$$.

 

[MysteryQuesadilla]

USA really needs to improve it's defenses against hacking and intrusion but they're apparently losing all their top talent due to $$$.

The military is expanding their cyber defense efforts but I have a feeling if they're trying to build it from the ground up its going to a long time to get effective defenses going. A solid report that comes out of this may reveal that Russia is going about this to better counter their efforts.

 

[Cromat]

Obama should have threatened the Russians and possibly even launch attacks of his own to deter them at the time, but he's too damn sensible. A strongly worded announcement about how they are hacking American democracy is nothing.

 

[Volimar]

Lindsey Graham is poised to be the savior of the Republican party in the aftermath of the Trump administration. I wonder if he'll challenge Trump in four years.

 

[Zips]

Despite how obvious it was to everyone, I expect this will do little but come out with a report that says something to the effect of "Yes there were attempts by the Russians to influence the election. No ability to definitively conclude it decided the results. Recommendation is to boost defenses and awareness for future elections."

Either that, or they will just come out and say there was nothing to be concerned about, and this is just Obama trying to quell people's doubts/fears and reinforce belief in the system.

 

[watershed]

Democracy's 4th qtr hail mary.

 

[Protome]

I doubt they'll find anything of note, it'd be kinda insane and unprecedented if they did though. I wonder what would happen.

Either that, or they will just come out and say there was nothing to be concerned about, and this is just Obama trying to quell people's doubts/fears and reinforce belief in the system.

Pretty much this.

 

[Vestal]

What if the russians do it again, and again, and again,?

Like I said, I hope they find nothing. If they find something then we are all fucked.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

There is no fucking way the military would go along with a Russia influenced election. If Obama does get proof he needs to declare martial law and refuse to step down until the foreign influences are purged from our electoral process.

 

[benicillin]

Either that, or they will just come out and say there was nothing to be concerned about, and this is just Obama trying to quell people's doubts/fears and reinforce belief in the system.

This is sadly what would probably happen even if Obama found something. I've more or less lost faith in our democratic process entirely.

 

[Matsukaze]

There is no fucking way the military would go along with a Russia influenced election. If Obama does get proof he needs to declare marshal law and refuse to step down until the foreign influences are purged from our electoral process.

That would be the cue for the country's gun nuts to go on a collective batshit rampage.

 

[Latvian Hitman]

That would be the cue for the country's gun nuts to go on a collective batshit rampage.

Yep. I don't think Obama or the Dems are looking for a loophole to overturn the most recent election so much as taking steps to identify the problem and keep it from happening again.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Yep. I don't think Obama or the Dems are looking for a loophole to overturn the most recent election so much as taking steps to identify the problem and keep it from happening again.

Assuming we have another election.

 

[qcf x2]

It's time to get over the election result.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

It's time to get over the election result.

Cowardly response.

 

[Escape Goat]

It's time to get over the election result.

So you think foreign intervention in elections shouldn't be investigated? Why?

 

[davepoobond]

There is no fucking way the military would go along with a Russia influenced election. If Obama does get proof he needs to declare martial law and refuse to step down until the foreign influences are purged from our electoral process.

so, a coup?


not sure that is the best response either.

 

[Latvian Hitman]

Assuming we have another election.

We'll probably make it that far. Probably.

 

[Mr.Mike]

USA really needs to improve it's defenses against hacking and intrusion but they're apparently losing all their top talent due to $$$.

Also how will Donald Trump being President affect the intelligence communities ability to recruit? The most skilled people have better paying prospects elsewhere. Maybe this is a set of people that for the most part doesn't really value material wealth past a certain point they've already surpassed anyway, but are they going to take lower paying jobs so they can work for Donald Trump?

 

[dave is ok]

So you think foreign intervention in elections shouldn't be investigated? Why?

Yeah. America would never do such a thing to another country

 

[WorldStar]

good luck with that

 

[Escape Goat]

Yeah. America would never do such a thing to another country

Okay, so you really were just trolling.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

so, a coup?


not sure that is the best response either.

A reset. I think that Obama has proven these last 8 years his devotion to the ideals of the United States and his trustworthiness in general. If it did turn out that Russia influenced our election I would not be opposed to giving Obama a few more years without restraint to fix things.

 

[matt05891]

There is no fucking way the military would go along with a Russia influenced election. If Obama does get proof he needs to declare martial law and refuse to step down until the foreign influences are purged from our electoral process.

This may have been my bubble in my branch of the military but most people heavily dislike Obama and absolutly despise Clinton. So while those serving wouldn't be happy with Russian sponsored victory if you have Obama declare martial law and refuse to step down... well fuck I don't think the world works the way you think it does.

Like I don't even want to fathom what would happen if Obama declared martial law on the populace from a military or civilian side.

 

[qcf x2]

Cowardly response.

As opposed to your psychopathic "martial law" stuff? Maybe you can go fight WW3 by yourself, classic internet tough guy.

So you think foreign intervention in elections shouldn't be investigated? Why?

Because nothing good can come of it and more than likely nothing at all would come of it except even more taxpayer money being wasted. In between peoples feelings being sore and various other complexes at play, there is a teetering nation to worry about (that being us). Even in the slim chance they find that Russia somehow managed to rig the entire thing (lol), what's the best case realistic scenario of a post-election investigation without saying "I hate Trump" and "I love Democrats"?

A reset. I think that Obama has proven these last 8 years his devotion to the ideals of the United States and his trustworthiness in general. If it did turn out that Russia influenced our election I would not be opposed to giving Obama a few more years without restraint to fix things.

Oh wow, full God Emperor Obama mode, lol. It's rare to see this so explicitly stated, it's like David Icke for the modern age.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

This may have been my bubble in my branch of the military but most people heavily dislike Obama and absolutly despise Clinton. So while those serving wouldn't be happy with Russian sponsored victory if you have Obama declare martial law and refuse to step down... well fuck I don't think the world works the way you think it does.

Like I don't even want to fathom what would happen if Obama declared martial law on the populace from a military or civilian side.

Which do your colonels and generals dislike more? Obama or Russia? I have a real hard time believing that old Cold Warriors will tolerate Russian influence in American elections.