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[Tygeezy]

Yeah I've tried verything I can so far. I've watched videos about optimizing Virtual Desktop and because of them I was able to reduce my latency but these random and fairly frequent micro stutters just won't go away.

I've tried Slice on and off, boost clock on and off, played with the bitrate, put it on H.264 etc .... I've tried all the things

But I've got an old router that even causes problems ( I think ) on my weekend Civ 6 LAN games.

And tons of people report that buying a new router fixes their problem with VD so ....



In that video he tests 3 different routers from the same product line. 2 of them work perfectly, one doesn't.

I personally like unifi because it has great control software to tweak just about everything. You get really beefy hardware in their routers as well. My dream machine doesn't have wifi 6, but wifi 5 works perfectly and you can easily add a wifi 6 access point to your play area which is what I plan on doing in the garage.

 

[namekuseijin]

despite all hate, I think it paid off for Facebook to invest into a VR headset that is pretty much a console by itself:

Facebook CEO: Quest 2 'on track to be first mainstream VR headset', Next Headset Confirmed

During Facebook’s Q4 2020 earnings call today, CEO Mark Zuckerberg said that Quest 2 is “on track to be the first mainstream virtual reality headset,” noting that the device drove a 156% increase in the company’s non-advertising revenue. In past earning calls, Zuckerberg has generally downplayed...

www.roadtovr.com

I think by now Quest + Quest 2 combined sales have probably already surpassed the old psvr 5 million units figure and going after that sweet 10 million installed base sweet spot...

hopefully that means a better library

 

[pr0cs]

I think it's safe to say that the Quest design (being both stand-alone and usable when tethered to PC) is going to be the Oculus standard going forward.

 

[Twinguistics]

I've been meaning to ask, how powerful is the quest in terms of Switches taped together?

Just wondering really as they are both handhelds, though the quest is more of a head held lol.

 

[Romulus]

I've been meaning to ask, how powerful is the quest in terms of Switches taped together?

Just wondering really as they are both handhelds, though the quest is more of a head held lol.

The Quest 2 GPU is about twice as powerful and it has 2 additional GB of faster RAM than Switch. Not sure about the CPU. I'm sure its even more of a disparity over Switch.

What really makes it unique is the ability to pair it was an high end PC for top tier visuals.

 

[namekuseijin]

I've been meaning to ask, how powerful is the quest in terms of Switches taped together?

Just wondering really as they are both handhelds, though the quest is more of a head held lol.

more powerful than switch but VR has other priorities, so games have graphics akin to a xbox 360 at best

but let's face it, so does switch

 

[cyberheater]

The Quest 2 GPU is about twice as powerful and it has 2 additional GB of faster RAM than Switch. Not sure about the CPU. I'm sure its even more of a disparity over Switch.

What really makes it unique is the ability to pair it was an high end PC for top tier visuals.

I didn't think it was that powerful. A very impressive device for the money.

 

[namekuseijin]

I didn't think it was that powerful. A very impressive device for the money.

same price as switch as well, and far more real nextgen gaming than any console on the market

 

[Twinguistics]

Ok thanks everyone, so pretty powerful then which is what I expected. Obviously it's different, like someone said, as it has to do different things but good to know anyway.

Also, being able to use as a pc headset via a cable (or virtual desktop) is awesome too. When I replace my CV1 I imagine I'll get a quest.

 

[cyberheater]

Ok thanks everyone, so pretty powerful then which is what I expected. Obviously it's different, like someone said, as it has to do different things but good to know anyway.

Also, being able to use as a pc headset via a cable (or virtual desktop) is awesome too. When I replace my CV1 I imagine I'll get a quest.

I replaced my CV1 with Quest2. Apart from the black level on CV1, everything is better on the Q2. The resolution bump is mind blowing.

 

[namekuseijin]

who doesn't love surprises?

this nice retro arcade game is releasing today on the official Oculus store and also got a free demo on Sidequest:



checking asap. Actually, I fired up Sidequest just awhile ago before this announcement to download QuestZDoom again and guess I got too carried away playing it (I'm actually waiting it does support the Castlevania mod someday)

 

[Tygeezy]

who doesn't love surprises?

this nice retro arcade game is releasing today on the official Oculus store and also got a free demo on Sidequest:



checking asap. Actually, I fired up Sidequest just awhile ago before this announcement to download QuestZDoom again and guess I got too carried away playing it (I'm actually waiting it does support the Castlevania mod someday)

Is it coming to quest since there is a demo on sidequest?

 

[namekuseijin]

Is it coming to quest since there is a demo on sidequest?

sadly no, after you finish that single first mission the demo informs that again they didn't meet Oculus standards - and I can see why, as it has bad stuttering right in the HUB, had to give up on arcade cockpit and I can only guess how bad performance is in later levels in this bullet hell. They could easily port it entirely and sell on Sidequest, but didn't.

Only for pcvr on Rift store.

 

[Romulus]

 

[Wonko_C]

Is it gonna become like the iPhone with their annual releases then? I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.

 

[pr0cs]

Is it gonna become like the iPhone with their annual releases then? I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.

I don't see them launching a new headset this year, my guess is a revision to the Quest 2 where you can buy it without controllers to make it even less expensive.
More software improvements to hand tracking expanding potential casual use. I haven't read anything solid regarding a sequel to the XR2 processor, making any new headset only offering updates to the screen if a quest 3 was actually on the table

 

[Romulus]

I don't see them launching a new headset this year, my guess is a revision to the Quest 2 where you can buy it without controllers to make it even less expensive.
More software improvements to hand tracking expanding potential casual use. I haven't read anything solid regarding a sequel to the XR2 processor, making any new headset only offering updates to the screen if a quest 3 was actually on the table

I'm hoping it will be more like a quest 2.5 but with a big increase to FOV

 

[namekuseijin]

Quest 2 was a holiday hit for sure:



good for people new to VR, but to veterans who already played most games in the library, it's just lacking

 

[Romulus]

Quest 2 was a holiday hit for sure:



good for people new to VR, but to veterans who already played most games in the library, it's just lacking

That's incredible, and actually exceeds alot of console sales in the past during a launch window. Actually alot of them.

 

[yurqqa]

I think it's safe to say that the Quest design (being both stand-alone and usable when tethered to PC) is going to be the Oculus standard going forward.

Basically it's the Switch of VR headsets.

 

[cyberheater]

Mad I know. I’ve just bought an Oculus Quest 1 on eBay (I already have a Quest2).

The primary reason is the OLED blacks for some of the darker games like Vader Immortal and for PCVR via virtual desktop. The big drop in resolution should help with performance on some of the PC heavy games.

Also interested see what movies look like with a much better black floor.

 

[namekuseijin]

That's incredible, and actually exceeds alot of console sales in the past during a launch window. Actually alot of them.

looks like paranoid FB-haters are not doing a good job

yes, these are pretty console-level sales and I guess Quest 2 may be the first VR headset to reach at least 10 million. But otoh, it's not much console-like when you release a new one every year or so...

VR needs software, not hardware. This is something they still don't get. But otoh, the tech is moving fast in advancements so if you keep still for several years, competition just eats your lunch, like Quest did to psvr...

 

[Romulus]

looks like paranoid FB-haters are not doing a good job

yes, these are pretty console-level sales and I guess Quest 2 may be the first VR headset to reach at least 10 million. But otoh, it's not much console-like when you release a new one every year or so...

VR needs software, not hardware. This is something they still don't get. But otoh, the tech is moving fast in advancements so if you keep still for several years, competition just eats your lunch, like Quest did to psvr...

I think it's install base. Developers don't want to invest in hardware that has less than 10 million units sold usually. If they can keep pushing new headsets and keep the ecosystem the same, it could work

These new sales figures are around 1 million per month, that's console sales and they don't seem to be slowing.

So, having said that, VR could now be very significant for bigger publishers too.

 

[pr0cs]

Basically it's the Switch of VR headsets.

Except its a product worth owning unlike the other mentioned product

 

[dcll]

I have always been interested in vr but haven’t been following it. I heard a podcast and they were talking about the quest 2 and it doesn’t need a pc has me interested. Can this be used with a DJI drone? What are some more of the impressive experiences that really make you feel like you are in a different place?

 

[Wonko_C]

Quest 2 was a holiday hit for sure:



good for people new to VR, but to veterans who already played most games in the library, it's just lacking

Holy shit is this the fastest selling VR headset?

 

[namekuseijin]

I have always been interested in vr but haven’t been following it. I heard a podcast and they were talking about the quest 2 and it doesn’t need a pc has me interested. Can this be used with a DJI drone? What are some more of the impressive experiences that really make you feel like you are in a different place?

any VR game will make you feel you're in a different place

yeah, doesn't need pc, as long as you don't care for a mobile chip doing top graphics from 15 years ago

 

[D.Final]

Quest 2 was a holiday hit for sure:



good for people new to VR, but to veterans who already played most games in the library, it's just lacking

Awesome
I can't wait

 

[wordslaughter]

What are your hopes for the Quest 3 upgrade path?

I think a more powerful XR3 and a higher resolution display are a given, but aside from those things what do you hope Oculus will focus on next?

Smaller and lighter?
Higher FOV?
Cheaper?

I hope we see OLED. Something like 3000x3000 per eye OLED. It wouldn't even matter if it was pentile at that resolution. And it doesn't HAVE to be OLED, but something to dramtically improve the black levels (FALD/microLED?). IMO it's the worst thing about the Q2 and actually impacts my ability to enjoy some content, where dark and moody environments just looks grey, washed out and overall not what the developers were intending.

I also wouldn't mind seeing two versions of the Quest 3, one version being higher end.

 

[D.Final]

What are your hopes for the Quest 3 upgrade path?

I think a more powerful XR3 and a higher resolution display are a given, but aside from those things what do you hope Oculus will focus on next?

Smaller and lighter?
Higher FOV?
Cheaper?

I hope we see OLED. Something like 3000x3000 per eye OLED. It wouldn't even matter if it was pentile at that resolution. And it doesn't HAVE to be OLED, but something to dramtically improve the black levels (FALD/microLED?). IMO it's the worst thing about the Q2 and actually impacts my ability to enjoy some content, where dark and moody environments just looks grey, washed out and overall not what the developers were intending.

I also wouldn't mind seeing two versions of the Quest 3, one version being higher end.

Higher FOV
Just that

 

[cyberheater]

What are your hopes for the Quest 3 upgrade path?

I think a more powerful XR3 and a higher resolution display are a given, but aside from those things what do you hope Oculus will focus on next?

Generally the route is for cost reduction to enable them to sell Q3 for $200 or less for mass market adoption.

I would love OLED but I can’t see it happening.

 

[namekuseijin]

Quest 3? I just bought 2 and I'm already bored with their minigames library

I'm only getting back to Quest by 6, perhaps by then it'll have a decent library. See you in 2 years.

Btw, this is interesting:

 

[Romulus]

 

[Romulus]

Quest 3? I just bought 2 and I'm already bored with their minigames library

I'm only getting back to Quest by 6, perhaps by then it'll have a decent library. See you in 2 years.

Btw, this is interesting:

Sounds like you need a PC. Quest is brand new, PCVR has been around for years.

 

[namekuseijin]

Sounds like you need a PC. Quest is brand new, PCVR has been around for years.

sounds like neither you nor Facebook understand what a console is supposed to be

 

[Romulus]

sounds like neither you nor Facebook understand what a console is supposed to be

As I said before, good luck getting many developers to invest in a platform under 10 million units. Now it could happen though with recent success.

 

[cyberheater]

Anyone tried that Quest 2 brightness app?

 

[Tygeezy]

As I said before, good luck getting many developers to invest in a platform under 10 million units. Now it could happen though with recent success.

UBISOFT has committed to quest with a future Splinter Cell and assassins creed game in the works.

 

[Romulus]

UBISOFT has committed to quest with a future Splinter Cell and assassins creed game in the works.

For sure, its already starting to happen, but Quest is pretty new still and we're just now breaking out the mainstream or even hardcore gaming ignorant way of thinking that "VR sucks." 99% of the people saying that haven't even tried VR, they're just poor or have no experience with it.
Quest is changing all that though. It's actually pushing VR toward the mainstream faster than I imagined.

 

[Tygeezy]

For sure, its already starting to happen, but Quest is pretty new still and we're just now breaking out the mainstream or even hardcore gaming ignorant way of thinking that "VR sucks." 99% of the people saying that haven't even tried VR, they're just poor or have no experience with it.
Quest is changing all that though. It's actually pushing VR toward the mainstream faster than I imagined.

Most gamers on the internet still think motion controls suck which couldn't be any further form the truth since its a requirement in VR and obviously works extremely well. I've pretty much given up on console games utilizing gyroscope for anything that requires aim and will just stick with VR and PC because they are forward thinking and a much better experience.

 

[CrustyBritches]

I just tried out Mario Land 3D on Citra using the SBS mode and Virtual Desktop. Cranked depth up 95% and used 8x resolution. I need a faster CPU for full speed, but it's still cool when the effect kicks in. You can move your head side to side and the background of the game will shift. Pretty fuckin' cool, man.

 

[namekuseijin]

UBISOFT has committed to quest with a future Splinter Cell and assassins creed game in the works.

yes, but if they're short experiences they'll get backsplash from gamers and if they're really good AAA games they'll get backslash from indies and their "content creator" shills, who pretty much buried Medal of Honor...

 

[Tygeezy]

yes, but if they're short experiences they'll get backsplash from gamers and if they're really good AAA games they'll get backslash from indies and their "content creator" shills, who pretty much buried Medal of Honor...

So you're saying it's a lose lose? I think splinter cell in particular would be great in VR.

 

[namekuseijin]

So you're saying it's a lose lose? I think splinter cell in particular would be great in VR.

as long as big games are still coming to VR, it's a win to me

but if they don't sell due to crap reviews by indie shills, the writing is on the wall

 

[Tygeezy]

as long as big games are still coming to VR, it's a win to me

but if they don't sell due to crap reviews by indie shills, the writing is on the wall

Indie shilling is a thing?

 

[Spukc]

Indie shilling is a thing?

In his head yes

 

[Spukc]

I just tried out Mario Land 3D on Citra using the SBS mode and Virtual Desktop. Cranked depth up 95% and used 8x resolution. I need a faster CPU for full speed, but it's still cool when the effect kicks in. You can move your head side to side and the background of the game will shift. Pretty fuckin' cool, man.

Fuck i need to try this

 

[CrustyBritches]

Just tried Flight Sim 2020 with Virtual Desktop for the first time. Damn, it's really crazy to be able to look out the windows and around the cockpit. I did a barrel roll and it turned my stomach a bit. I need a GPU upgrade and a flight stick so I can play smoother with higher settings and res. Still an awesome experience.
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Fuck i need to try this

I got better 3D effect by using higher res and the 'Large Screen' window layout. I also prefer a background color other than black as the Quest 2 tends to have halo effect from bright white on dark black. Here's the layout and the SBS output from Citra for shits and giggles. It gets stretch wider in the headset and has a nice 3D pop to it.

Nintendo could own the VR kingdom if they made software for it(outside that weird Switch Cardboard VR). Their artstyle fits so well with VR.

 

[Spukc]

Just tried Flight Sim 2020 with Virtual Desktop for the first time. Damn, it's really crazy to be able to look out the windows and around the cockpit. I did a barrel roll and it turned my stomach a bit. I need a GPU upgrade and a flight stick so I can play smoother with higher settings and res. Still an awesome experience.
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I got better 3D effect by using higher res and the 'Large Screen' window layout. I also prefer a background color other than black as the Quest 2 tends to have halo effect from bright white on dark black. Here's the layout and the SBS output from Citra for shits and giggles. It gets stretch wider in the headset and has a nice 3D pop to it.

Nintendo could own the VR kingdom if they made software for it(outside that weird Switch Cardboard VR). Their artstyle fits so well with VR.

Yeah labo VR showed it of!
i had a lot of fun with nintendo’s VR vision

 

[wordslaughter]

Quest 3? I just bought 2 and I'm already bored with their minigames library

I'm only getting back to Quest by 6, perhaps by then it'll have a decent library. See you in 2 years.

So you don't have a PC to use with your Quest 2?

That sucks.

I actually think the Quest 2 has a fairly sizeable library for games that run ON the Quest 2, but no doubt adding a PC and wireless connection opens up .... well, the entire library of VR gaming to the Quest 2, and at a resolution only beaten by the Reverb G2.